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[jerobolod]

Even if that feeling was uncomfortable? Try soul crushing disappointment.

They wanted to make Mass Effect something that will be remembered? In a few years, when I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games since finishing ME3 the first time, all that I will remember is that soul crushing disappointment. That's all that will stick with me.

So yeah, I guess I will never forget Mass Effect. But that's not a good thing. Not at all.

[Reptilian Rob]

greengoron89 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

Absolute manure.

I didn't like the ending. For about twenty hours it was the most depressing ending in gaming history jsut because it was so disappointing. Five minutes really can change one's mood.

But hacks? Hacks? Why do you think this rankles so badly? Because the rest of ME3 is 35 solid hours of one of the greatest RPG experiences ever forged in the white-hot furnace of creative fire. People are pissed about the ending not because it's bad, but because the rest of the game is great, not good but legitimately great in a way so few games are, and the ending utterly failed to fulfill the promise that the game made.

So let them fix it. I'll buy whatever DLC they put out, because 99.7% of this game was staggering in its quality. If they fix the ending - because yes, it needs fixing like a willful child needs discipline - then I will be happy to revise that number up to 100%.

Calling them hacks is disengenuous, rude, and meaningless. You're here because they aren't hacks. We're all here because we've seen them produce greatness. We're all disappointed because we wanted more, just another few minutes, and didn't get it.

Yeah, no. I'm here because they weren't hacks - until ME3's gigantic fustercluck of a BAD ending spoiled 90 hours of gameplay across all three games and left me so pissed, I wrote the entire series off as a lost cause. I'll never invest another dime into this series - and that includes any phoned in DLC EA is going to strong-arm Bioware into making to capitalize on the massive consumer demand for it.

And no, the game being great is purely a matter of opinion. I personally thought it had several weak points outside of the ending (but nowhere near the same in scope), which would've made the game good in my opinion. I could nitpick about several other things as well that I didn't like, but that's not what this thread is about.

Nevertheless, I stand by my claim that the writers are HACKS, as only a HACK could've written such a humiliatingly bad ending in the first place - and I won't give them one shiny penny to "fix" it.

Sums up the situation pretty nicely.

[pavi132]

I think the funniest part is that they blatantly lied about the DLC. It was originally planned to be in the game then if I'm reading this correctly, right?

[Stanley Woo]

A bunch of spam removed. users have been banned.

[Hudathan]

No content after ME3 doesn't mean there isn't additional content coming regarding the ending of the game, because that would technically count as during the game.

[Ramus]

Thats it. I'm done. Mass effect is dead now. Note to Casey. *** **** ** **** *****!!!. P.S. Your a horrible director.

[Lozark]

Honestly this gives me hope. Now Bioware can't pretend that this was all part of some "master plan" to psyche us out. We know for a fact now that they messed up and now all they have to do is admit it and fix it.

[CimCake]

dakphillips wrote...

Lawliet89 wrote...

Q: What did you think of the ending? Is this addressed in the story?
A: I've seen the uproar online about the ending and understand the fan perspective. Personally I respect the creative choices the team made and had no problems with how the story ended -- it made you feel something, even if that feeling was uncomfortable.

The Final Hours addresses the challenges BioWare faces in writing a story with defined parameters in a game environment where players want to feel like they have choice. Ultimately your opinion on the ending will depend on who you see as the "author" of Mass Effect's story -- BioWare or the player.

The ending of the game is discussed in the App and there are some notes from the team about how they were thinking about the ending. Since this story was completed before the public release of the game, I do not address the fan petitions or reaction. I hope to update the story with a new chapter on this down the road.

From his website: http://www.me3finalhours.com/

LOL.  The only times I've felt uncomfortable during any type of story has been watching scenes of rape/torture/murder.  Want to leave us on an ending thats thought provoking and or ambiguous?  Fine.  But at least do that while sticking to the parameters and characterizations that you've spent the bulk of the story establishing.

I didn't feel uncomfortable, I didn't feel sad or happy or anything. And that is exactly why the ending is bad, it didn't make me feel anything like the rest of the game did, there were just so many plot holes and so much bad narrative that it became void of emotions.
Just bad, not sad.

[Khuutra]

greengoron89 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

Absolute manure.

I didn't like the ending. For about twenty hours it was the most depressing ending in gaming history jsut because it was so disappointing. Five minutes really can change one's mood.

But hacks? Hacks? Why do you think this rankles so badly? Because the rest of ME3 is 35 solid hours of one of the greatest RPG experiences ever forged in the white-hot furnace of creative fire. People are pissed about the ending not because it's bad, but because the rest of the game is great, not good but legitimately great in a way so few games are, and the ending utterly failed to fulfill the promise that the game made.

So let them fix it. I'll buy whatever DLC they put out, because 99.7% of this game was staggering in its quality. If they fix the ending - because yes, it needs fixing like a willful child needs discipline - then I will be happy to revise that number up to 100%.

Calling them hacks is disengenuous, rude, and meaningless. You're here because they aren't hacks. We're all here because we've seen them produce greatness. We're all disappointed because we wanted more, just another few minutes, and didn't get it.

Yeah, no. I'm here because they weren't hacks - until ME3's gigantic fustercluck of a BAD ending spoiled 90 hours of gameplay across all three games and left me so pissed, I wrote the entire series off as a lost cause. I'll never invest another dime into this series - and that includes any phoned in DLC EA is going to strong-arm Bioware into making to capitalize on the massive consumer demand for it.

And no, the game being great is purely a matter of opinion. I personally thought it had several weak points outside of the ending (but nowhere near the same in scope), which would've made the game good in my opinion. I could nitpick about several other things as well that I didn't like, but that's not what this thread is about.

Nevertheless, I stand by my claim that the writers are HACKS, as only a HACK could've written such a humiliatingly bad ending in the first place - and I won't give them one shiny penny to "fix" it.

I'm not particularly concerned with your exaggerations, I just wanted to let you know you're wrong, and your presence in this forum proves it even for yourself.

[Rulycar]

Timeless-Strife wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Fans: Bioware! You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the games that limited choice and stifled attachments to the characters, not join them. You were to bring closure to Shepard's story, not leave it in darkness!
Bioware: I hate you!
Fans: You were my brother, Bioware. I loved you

LMFAOOOOOOOO @ this one. Priceless!

Dreams ... dashed ... hope ... lost ... THIS^^^

[wright1978]

greengoron89 wrote...

Yeah, no. I'm here because they weren't hacks - until ME3's gigantic fustercluck of a BAD ending spoiled 90 hours of gameplay across all three games and left me so pissed, I wrote the entire series off as a lost cause. I'll never invest another dime into this series - and that includes any phoned in DLC EA is going to strong-arm Bioware into making to capitalize on the massive consumer demand for it.

And no, the game being great is purely a matter of opinion. I personally thought it had several weak points outside of the ending (but nowhere near the same in scope), which would've made the game good in my opinion. I could nitpick about several other things as well that I didn't like, but that's not what this thread is about.

Nevertheless, I stand by my claim that the writers are HACKS, as only a HACK could've written such a humiliatingly bad ending in the first place - and I won't give them one shiny penny to "fix" it.

No i don't think they are hacks. They panicked and deluded themselves into swallowing horse****. Now the first step is clear for them to admit there is a  problem and promise to rectify it. I personally think there is the talent to do it if they don't force the writer to scribble ending down on a piece of paper  and run with it. Of course until they deal with the elephant in the room i'll keep pointing out the huge mounds of ecrement littering the room.

[Flipzide]

Besides the Mass Effect trilogy, the only other Bioware game I've purchased was KOTOR. Unless Bioware implements a DLC that addresses the issues that the community has with the endings, I won't be purchasing any future DLC for ME3 or pre-ordering any future Bioware game without waiting for reviews from the gaming community. Gaming journalism and Bioware has lost my trust. I'm still shocked at how great the game was except for the last 5-10 minutes.

[Hollowhisp]

I have no issue with sad, happy or complex endings. My problem is that this ending is confusing, filled with plot holes and out of place compared to the rest of the story. My subscription to the indoc theory deals with all of the above.

[CimCake]

jerobolod wrote...

Even if that feeling was uncomfortable? Try soul crushing disappointment.

They wanted to make Mass Effect something that will be remembered? In a few years, when I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games since finishing ME3 the first time, all that I will remember is that soul crushing disappointment. That's all that will stick with me.

So yeah, I guess I will never forget Mass Effect. But that's not a good thing. Not at all.

I don't think it'll be remembered, a LOT of people will try their darndest to forget this atrocity rather than even remembering it as something bad. :/

[HKR148]

Well from what I can gather from the interview and the situations surrounding the controversy. The likely scenario of what happened in the ending was that they've had different mindset of how the overall storyline was going to be and how the ending was going to play out. Usually is a terrible route to take since it is very difficult navigating through the overall storyline while looking at whether the ending you've planned is actually going to fit onto that storyline.

It's just a result of them taking vital parts of the storyline into pieces and tried to make them fit as much as possible instead of thinking the whole storyline as some kind of a fluidic movement without even a single consideration of being flexible about it.

Modifié par HKR148, 15 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Zix13]

They blatantly lied about many things. Most noticeably the impact player choice has on the game. I don't know about their statements. There is no way they could have thought this ending would work. Shep waking up, Normandy leaving sol and crashing on a planet with dead squad members who are not even slightly worried about the fate of everyone else they just ran from... Like the ending to say, the matrix trilogy may have made no sense, but at least neo didn't have a building explode with him inside it, fall from space, then wake up(cut to black). If they don't have something more planned, then, well.... Humanity just got a bit stupider.

[Bfler]

We could make our own official ending.

[paul2e]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

 the me3 ending reminds me of a certain thing with MANY ploth holes:
:

But at least your knew the galaxy would be a better place 5 episodes later.

[Catroi]

Stanley Woo wrote...

A bunch of spam removed. users have been banned.

guess I was right about keeping myself away from this thread then


Guys about the main subject of this topic I don't know really, I guess the actual ending was intended to be it but as they see the massive backlash from the fans they might agree to work on a new ending (through payed DLC of course).
If that was the case I'll buy it, would you?

[Elysis]

Q: What did you think of the ending? Is this addressed in the story?
A: I've seen the uproar online about the ending and understand the fan perspective. Personally I respect the creative choices the team made and had no problems with how the story ended -- it made you feel something, even if that feeling was uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable? UNCOMFORTABLE?
This makes me so. mad.

Who cares if you send your fans into depression, RIGHT?
Think about your actions, Bioware.

[joshko]

So now what? We get a fairy tale cliche ending that gives a superficial sense of choice to make people happy?
Or do we get an ending that the community has thought up all on its own?
I'm not sure I like ether option at all.

[Endersgone]

Flipzide wrote...

Besides the Mass Effect trilogy, the only other Bioware game I've purchased was KOTOR. Unless Bioware implements a DLC that addresses the issues that the community has with the endings, I won't be purchasing any future DLC for ME3 or pre-ordering any future Bioware game without waiting for reviews from the gaming community. Gaming journalism and Bioware has lost my trust. I'm still shocked at how great the game was except for the last 5-10 minutes.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[The Spamming Troll]

lol!!!!!

is anyone else laughing really hard at the part about talis face?!?!?!?

holy hell, i dont even care much for tali at all, but "we just saw it and were like YUP THAT IS IT" is god damn the funniest thing ive ever scene posted on this forum.

lol

[Rulycar]

Have they never heard of focus groups???

[RebelByDesign]

CimCake wrote...

I didn't feel uncomfortable, I didn't feel sad or happy or anything. And that is exactly why the ending is bad, it didn't make me feel anything like the rest of the game did, there were just so many plot holes and so much bad narrative that it became void of emotions.
Just bad, not sad.

Very well said. That was my exact response too.