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[Necroscope]

First I was like:

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say
any more than that…”

“Whether you’re happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an
ending. BioWare will not do a “Lost” and leave fans with more questions
than answers after finishing the game.”

“I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the
way we’ve done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you’ve made will
impact how things go. The player’s also the architect of what happens.”

But then I thought:

Lots of speculation for everyone!

[Dr_Hello]

wtbusername wrote...

Supersomething wrote...

And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an
endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's
movement and fall under full reaper control. (This sequence was dropped
because the gaemplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement
alongside dialogue choices).

Found that part interesting.

I think it's a dead giveaway that the 'indoc' theory is true.

I would say so too. Since they couldn't do the 'body out of control' gameplay mechanic, they applied the reaper-control concept in another way, which is what we got. Aren't I right, BioWare??

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 16 mars 2012 - 06:03 .

[justlogme]

trembli0s wrote...

Wow.

Words fail. Literally nobody on the staff had the balls to say, "Uh what?"

This^^

  Also hard to believe after all the false promises Casey feed us he was that clueless to the fans?

[Revan312]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Shepard knew otherwise because he knew the catalyst was lying to get what he wanted - synthesis, or to a lesser extent control because the indoctrination of Shepard is what the Reapers wanted all along. Shepard knew the kid was lying, hence why after the kid told him that he would die in the destroy ending, he still survived.

1.)He didn't live in my ending as I hadn't played the multiplayer.. good stuff..

2.) Why again, if this starchild wants a certain "solution" doesn't he just freaking do it! Why is Shepard needed at all. Is Shepard's Jesus genes needed for this device to work?  Was there some pseudo star warsesq idiotic prophecy about "the one" that would destroy the sith and bring balance to the force? And if so, why then did my Shep decide to blow up door #3 and kill all of them? Finally, why would this creator even tell Shepard about his/her multiple options at the catalyst? That's like telling a 6 year old not to press this button and then leaving the room immediately after.

And why, if this god baby knows that the current genocide mechanic isn't working, did the reapers move the citadel to earth?  Why not just leave it, let the catalyst dock and then blow green magic all over the galaxy? Or was it after the combined forces of the galaxy get their proverbial junk kicked in that he realised that it's not working, because organics are losing? But they always lose... Or is it because the crucible was finally created by a cycle, then he realized "oh snap, they might choose that red ending, I better confront the guy that go's in there about it.. and tell him about the red ending for no reason, and completely screw up my own plans.." None of it makes any sense.

Let alone, that if this "AI will always arise to kill their creators" nonsense is true, then how are two of those options even potential solutions? As both red and blue leave the door wide open for synthetics to rise again, this time without a supposed check. And if it's not true, then what was the point of this entire MacGuffin Catalyst/Crucible nonsense anyway! And if the Crucible is some sort of dip stick test to figure out if the galaxy needs this new solution, or whatever, why hand out the plans for the crucible in the first place, seems counter productive, especially giving it the capability of simply destroying all of god child's hard work. He built that into the device's blueprints to begin with? What? Unless it really was just built by the different races over millenia, without reaper influence, but then why did NONE of them know how it works or what it does? GAH!

It makes my head hurt even thinking about how nonsensical and contrived this p.o.s finale was..

[justlogme]

Phattee Buttz wrote...

Casey on after Mass Effect 3
"Whatever we do would likely happen before or during the events of Mass Effect 3, not after"

Knowing that anything you do inevitably leads to such an ugly, unsatisfying ending riddled with plot holes, does anyone really want to play future games that take place before or during ME3?

   Hell No! Bioware is dead they have proven beyound a shadow of a doubt they are clueless and wouldd just give us more mE3 ending crap in any further DLC/games at least as long as Hudsons at the wheel.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

terdferguson123 wrote...

The only way that they currently know of. If the reapers built the mass effect relays, and the galactic races built a weapon capable of destroying reapers in a short amount of time, why would they not be able to figure out another way to travel quickly through space.

Yeah, that sounds smart...

I speak Latin, if you would figure out a way to kill me, would this enable you to speak Latin too?

[Xandax]

I would much rather have wanted Bioware to be greedy and pull out the ending on purpose to send it - than so incompetent that they actually thought this ending was a good choice.

My opinion of - at least the guys in top - are falling faster than the logic in ME3 ending.

[Ivalane]

ok, so it looks like the info in this app just makes BW look worse and worse, but i'm going to hold out a sliver of hope for what they might announce in april at the ME panel at PAX east. who's with me? also, check this out if you haven't already, some of the media hears our cry! http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/

[FabricatedWookie]

It is clear, the line must be held. I payed for my game months in advance, when these decisions were still being fleshed out because this game promised to answer questions, not breed them. Bioware, if you learn anything from this, learn to hold your teaser trailer until after the game is finished. Let the player digest the resolution of the conflict before you throw the world back into turmoil again.

Committed to the line now more than ever.

[justlogme]

NiZe55 wrote...

Hold the Line!!
this doesn't prove that we're loosing an after dlc
you can't trust casey's statements anyway
when sales are dropping he'll just say
guys this interview was just faked to surprise you with this after me3 dlc

 You'd actually buy DLC content from Casey after all this? Might as well just say "thank you sir can i please have another" crappy ME3 ending.

[UKillMeLongTime]

rather see him fired

[JasonTan87]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

rather see him fired

That's mean.  

I think he genuinely thought that it was a decent ending.  That's the thing about being overly exposed to your work; you become blind to the flaws because you don't have the creative distance to see things objectively.  He did not realize that it was terrible when watched fresh because he was caught up with all the clever concepts.

In any case, he has to make amends, one way or another.  Either through fixing it somehow, or at the very least acknowledging that it was terrible.

Modifié par JasonTan87, 16 mars 2012 - 06:37 .

[Pikku Shinto]

justlogme wrote...

NiZe55 wrote...

Hold the Line!!
this doesn't prove that we're loosing an after dlc
you can't trust casey's statements anyway
when sales are dropping he'll just say
guys this interview was just faked to surprise you with this after me3 dlc

 You'd actually buy DLC content from Casey after all this? Might as well just say "thank you sir can i please have another" crappy ME3 ending.

Honestly, if they do make a ending that's worth it. I would get it.
The only thing I have to question is after all this, would I get another Bioware game again.

At this point I really don't know anymore.

[Cambios]

Considering how awesome so much of the story was, how did they manage to screw up the ending so bad?

So many of the things they said they cut sounded awesome.

How can they not understand that a huge part of video games is the "power fantasy" element. People want to be the hero.

This isn't an art house movie. This is a AAA mainstream title.

Ugh. Casey should never work on another video game ever.

[justlogme]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

It doesnt kill the indoctrination theory, so stop jumping to conclusion.

Well Bioware has certainly been indoctrnated by EA but I think there are alot less fans willing to hold out and give Bioware more money for yet more bad endings.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Advocating people be fired is stupid.

"But then I thought:"

"Lots of speculation for everyone!"

lol

"Well Bioware has certainly been indoctrnated by EA but I think there are alot less fans willing to hold out and give Bioware more money for yet more bad endings."

If Bioware made an ending DLC and it sucked, the Internet would melt into ashes under the pressure of servers being hit.

Modifié par PKchu, 16 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

dupe

Modifié par UKillMeLongTime, 16 mars 2012 - 06:52 .

[Cirrusstrafe]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

viperabyss wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

This game was advertised to answer your questions about commander shepard's story. Which it did. You know exactly what happened to Shepard, whats up in the air is what happened to everyone else. It was never advertised to explain that. Find me a link that said it will answer all of your questions about every galactic race and every character besides commander shepard?

Two Quotes from Casey Hudson, pre-ME3 release.

"It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them." 

So he promised we at least would know about civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. We knew neither of them by the ending.

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C"

 


So, any more questions?

Ah, yes. I was looking for these quotes. Thank you!

These quotes are all implying you consider the state of YOUR universe after the ending.  No, you're not shown it, but you can talk about it.

Your friend A who saved X race but picked Destroy will have a different outlook on the universe post-ME3 than your friend B who killed X race and picked Destroy, or you, who may have killed X race and picked Control.

That's your "depth," "complexity," "sophistication," and "lack of A, B, C endings."

[UKillMeLongTime]

The only issue was the ending. I was praising this game all while i played iy. i watched every video casey did. i watched the interview in LA even though here it was 3 am i think

Then i see those notes and now silence.....

So much promised about the ending too what the hell happened and its set up perfectly IF HES DREAMING or unconcious/etc

just tell us soon and to me any future business is at stake. I alraedy quit buying mw3/cod titles due to the fact its a yearly release with them milking u to death with map sells via dlc.

[Raizon]

Modifié par Raizon, 16 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[SearchXDestroy]

Necroscope wrote...

First I was like:

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say
any more than that…”

“Whether you’re happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an
ending. BioWare will not do a “Lost” and leave fans with more questions
than answers after finishing the game.”

“I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the
way we’ve done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you’ve made will
impact how things go. The player’s also the architect of what happens.”

But then I thought:

Lots of speculation for everyone!

^ lol 

[XavierHollywood]

Raizon wrote...

I was so looking forward to a universe after Mass Effect 3, a universe where the Reapers stop falling from the sky, a universe where Shepards story is over and he/shes name is placed amongst legend, a universe where Cerberus existed as an ideal while hoping to manifest as a force again. How would Aria take back Omega and how are me and you involved in that as players, readers whatever. Liara as the new Shadow Broker. The Universe recovering from the whole war. WHO would rise up and challenge the cosmos like the reapers did as the next big baddie??? Think about all the potential post Mass Effect 3. I was willing to pay HUNDREDS of dollars to explore all that, now... with that egg in the face ending, I can barely muster enough willpower to play Mass Effect 3 again.

Bioware how could you think it would be a cool idea to dump all that potential?

to be fair, I think the potential to do all that is still there in spades.  Its just the glaring plot holes and lack of closure for the trilogy itself that makes you consider if you even want to look into the future possibilities.

[MountainPuncher]

But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation
"High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get
into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they
been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect
universe. So we intentionally left those out"

You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect
universe. So we intentionally left those out

I think I'm going to have an aneurysm.

[WhyteThunder]

I'm just saying, but you know its bad when your community wants the "it was all a dream ending". Thanks for the good times Bioware, but I am disappointed in you. /thatlook

[Reptilian Rob]

MountainPuncher wrote...

But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation
"High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get
into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they
been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect
universe. So we intentionally left those out"

You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect
universe. So we intentionally left those out

I think I'm going to have an aneurysm.

What is he smoking, and where can I get some?