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[mojon123]

Yoiu people are retarded. You hate life. You can't open your minds. You are the reason Justin Bieber and Snooki are famous.

Thanks for screwing this fantastic industry with your nonstop, unreasonable whining

[Daverid]

Like Most others ... I think :

Worst Ending of ALL time? No.

Worst Ending of A game series that the rest of it in it's entirety was INCREDIBLE? YES.

No other Game Series has been so Epicly Orgasmically Fantastic and then Fell Flat on it's Face in the Final Moments.

[ZtalkerRM]

mojon123 wrote...

Yoiu people are retarded. You hate life. You can't open your minds. You are the reason Justin Bieber and Snooki are famous.

Thanks for screwing this fantastic industry with your nonstop, unreasonable whining

First off; you're abosolutely right for hating those two.

'Open' minds (reality tv marketeer) made Bieber and Snookie possible in the first place. They are the next step in the (horrible) multimedia time where talentless people can be marketed into succesfull cash cows. It all started with Big Brother and it's now at an all-time low. No talent is needed: Good marketing get's your everything.

Good marketing (whether it's throwing lies at people or not) made ME3 sell millions of unites. That, and the fact that it's a good game untill the last part. However, if we don't respond too that with constructive critisism, we are like Snookie and Bieber who live shallow and pointless lives, rolling through life oblivious of their own ideas and feelings.

A Bieber or Snookie fan is a (imo) brainwashed individual to start with. You can't objectively 'like' Bieber when you know there are people like Clapton, Knofpler, even Ed Sheeran, who write stuff themselves and loathe going commercial, instead proving their worth on stage, where it matters. Why would you look at Snookie when you can watch a program like Curiosity on Discovery? Or some sports show where people show skill? If, however, you only see Bieber and Snookie, not broadening your view, you will stay in that 'limited' place.

To put it all in perspective (on topic):
Bioware never used to 'actively' market their stuff. If you search youtube for 'Kotor commercial' you will probaby only find a 10 sec video starrring a RL actor. That's it. Bioware was like Clapton: Showing their amazing talent on stage, where it mattered, scoring award after award.
By taking the commercial (DLC ending) road with heavy marketing, Bioware has 'become' a Bieber.

I diasagree with you somewhat though: By coming here and showing our discontent (some people only bash though) we proof we have an open mind and can look beyond that what the media wants us to see.

Modifié par ZtalkerRM, 26 mars 2012 - 08:19 .

[ScriptDiver]

mojon123 wrote...

Yoiu people are retarded. You hate life. You can't open your minds. You are the reason Justin Bieber and Snooki are famous.

Thanks for screwing this fantastic industry with your nonstop, unreasonable whining

Whining. Sure.

Unreasonable. Certainly not.

As for screwing the industry... no, certainly not.

Putting the consumer back into the loop will not destroy the industry. If you think about it a little harder the second line of your argument completely goes against the first line.
NOT speaking up and telling the industry this is **** is EXACTLY what made Bieber and Snooki so famous in the first place. And startig apost with "you're retarded" is an excellent way of making yoru argument fall flat no matter if it had made any form of logical sense (which it doesn't).

[Jackal7713]

Rusty0918 wrote...

Has to be. Anything that can retroactively make the previous titles unplayable.

Agreed.  This ending killed three games. I don't know how they did it, but Bioware managed to kill three titles in 10 min.

If this was ever made into a book it would be called " How to kill five years of work in Ten Minutes."

[Tallestra]

Maybe it's not the worst ending ever, but it's the most devastating emotionally, because I doubt there any other game in existance that made us feel so involved with our characters.

[tenojitsu]

Worst I can remember, but I'm sure there has to be at least 1 game that fails more epicly, if only by a slight margin

[Aramintai]

Can't say the worst, but most DISSAPOINTING that's for certain.

[AllThatJazz]

Tallestra wrote...

Maybe it's not the worst ending ever, but it's the most devastating emotionally, because I doubt there any other game in existance that made us feel so involved with our characters.

I think this is a really good point. I've played games with worse endings (Malachor V in KotOR2 was one long WTF? moment, NWN2's 'Rocks fall, everyone dies' was so bad it's become a way of describing other bad game endings, and Bioshock managed to reduce a really good plot twist into the most disappointing boss battle ever - all otherwise good games, though). However, I wasn't as invested in any of those other games as I have been in the Mass Effect series. Frankly, if ME1, ME2 and most of ME3 had been a bit pants, I wouldn't be moaning about how the series finishes! x

[Skyhawk02]

No.

[Peranor]

Phattee Buttz wrote...

Rusty0918 wrote...

Has to be. Anything that can retroactively make the previous titles unplayable.

It not only ends Shepard's story, but basically kills the franchise, so I'd have to say YES.

Yes. When I think about it the ending of ME3 must be the worst ending of all time.
Sure back in the days when I played games on my C64 most games just ended with a "congratulations!" or "The End" (if even that). Those are pretty lousy endings. But then again you didn't expect much from those games either.

The ending of ME3 is in a entirely different league of its own in terms of disappointment. It killed the whole ME franchise and made not only ME3 unplayable, but also the two previous games lost all kind of replayability for me.

I've been playing video games since around 1983 when I got my first Commodore 64 and during all those years I have completed quite a few games on various platforms. And i've never been this disappointed over a game, never!

But then again i've never loved a series as much as I love Mass Effect either. So I guess it's the same as with people. The more you love a person the more hurt and angry you get when she betrays you.

Modifié par anorling, 26 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[garf]

anorling wrote...

Phattee Buttz wrote...

Rusty0918 wrote...

Has to be. Anything that can retroactively make the previous titles unplayable.

It not only ends Shepard's story, but basically kills the franchise, so I'd have to say YES.

Yes. When I think about it the ending of ME3 must be the worst ending of all time.
Sure back in the days when I played games on my C64 most games just ended with a "congratulations!" or "The End" (if even that). Those are pretty lousy endings. But then again you didn't expect much from those games either.

The ending of ME3 is in a entirely different league of its own in terms of disappointment. It killed the whole ME franchise and made not only ME3 unplayable, but also the two previous games lost all kind of replayability for me.

I've been playing video games since around 1983 when I got my first Commodore 64 and during all those years I have completed quite a few games on various platforms. And i've never been this disappointed over a game, never!

But then again i've never loved a series as much as I love Mass Effect either. So I guess it's the same as with people. The more you love a person the more hurt and angry you get when she betrays you.

I can relate... heck I remember being WOWed by my c64 because it was SO much more than my Timex Sinclair.

[Element Zero]

In comparison to the greatness of the trilogy it was supposed to serve, yes. It is definitely the biggest and most shocking end-fail in history.

[dorktainian]

Yes.

http://www.play-mag....-ending-sucked/

[Militarized]

I think for such a story driven game, yes.

[vaylander]

For me, KotOR 2's ending was pretty weak, though I blame Lucasarts for not giving Obsidian enough time. From what was intended, it seemed pretty deep. But what we got is what we got. ME 3's ending ranks low on the list, but they can so fix this! Something Obsidian wasn't allowed to do.

[jupitertronic]

Tallestra wrote...

Maybe it's not the worst ending ever, but it's the most devastating emotionally, because I doubt there any other game in existance that made us feel so involved with our characters.

I'd say this is basically the whole point. I'm starting to think the only people who like the endings were the sorts of people who just don't get all that immersed or emotionally invested in things like this. I can imagine that if I didn't really care about the characters, I might be wowed by the ending.

I've mentioned it before but this ending to me is like Doctor Who before and after Steven Moffat.

Before Moffat: Characters mattered, plot did not. So even when stupid plot things were happening, I was really into it because I wanted to know how everything affected the characters. After just 2 or 3 episodes, I became emotionally invested in the characters and wanted to know how their stories played out.

After Moffat: Plot matters, characters don't. Really interesting plots happen around the most one-dimensional characters I've ever seen outside of an action movie. You could literally kill the characters and I wouldn't care because I don't know who the hell these people are, even after 2 seasons worth of episodes.

So I guess I think the reason the ME3 ending is so maddening is that any "closure" it provides only relates to the plot, not to any of the characters that kept me emotionally invested in this series. So I end up just feeling numb, because my "resolution" in the ending doesn't really tell me any specifics about the characters I loved. Wow, gee, the Reaper plot is all taken care of, but that was just background to me. What I actually cared about were the characters, not the plot.

To go back to Doctor Who: I've never been more satisfied with a "series" finale than with both Journey's End (the farewell to all the minor characters) and The End of Time (farewell to the Tenth Doctor). What were the plots about? I barely remember! But the characters and their arcs stick with me to this day, because they were all beautifully tied up. Delicious closure.

By the way, I wouldn't call the ending of The End of Time a "happy ending." It definitely didn't have to be happy to be satisfying.

*Apologies if you like Steven Moffat, but I see him as a heartless kind of writer who really loves a clever plots and nothing else of substance. On the other hand, this works *really* well when he's writing Sherlock Holmes.

Modifié par jupitertronic, 26 mars 2012 - 09:46 .

[Rustcify]

Have you guys played RAGE before?

[DasLeid]

tallrickruush wrote...

In comparison to the greatness of the trilogy it was supposed to serve, yes. It is definitely the biggest and most shocking end-fail in history.

this.

[Necroscope]

Dunno if it's objectively the worst ending ever, but for me sure it is - it's the most disappointing, frustrating, inteligence insulting ending I have ever encountered.

It's like being on a walk in a beautiful park on a sunny day, listening to birds and enjoying your ice cream, when all of sudden a homeless guy appears with a paper bag full of his diarrhea, that he throws right into your face! *SPLASH*

^It's just as fun as these ending are, and yeah, it's without doubt a memorable n quite bitter experience, having nasty shi*t all over your face. The only thing that can be said about integrity though, is that all physical and metaphysical parts of *you* are integrally pissed and disgusted.

Modifié par Necroscope, 26 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[DrJuergen]

Many said this already.

It was not the worst ending ever, but I never felt so worse after completing a video game. Never ever. And as most of you, i did not play just a few of them..

[BhallSpawn1011]

Rustcify wrote...

Have you guys played RAGE before?

Rage sucked but if you want to use a lousy game as measuring stick for Mass Effect 3's ending by all means do.

The Mass Effect 3 ending was not the worst ending of all time, it just seems so because the rest of the franchise was so damn amazing.

The ending didn't fit the franchise for a number of reasons that you are all familiar with as the Retake Movement already expressed.

[The Lightspeaker]

Objectively its not the worst ending ever. But by any other measure it is.

Worst ending when compared to the rest of the game/franchise? Without a doubt.

Worst ending when considering customer satisfaction with a finale? Absolutely, its not like this kinda backlash always happens.

Worst ending when considering the effect its had on the franchise? I can't think of many games where the ending retrospectively ruins the ENTIRE SERIES for a significant number of customers.

Need I go on?

[Merwanor]

Worst ending ever? I doubt it.

But it is the worst ending which I will always remember.

In 5 or 10 years when someone mentions Mass Effect, my thoughts will always go to how horribly they ended the trilogy, instead of all the awesome parts that will be forgotten, the ending is what ME will be remembered for, which is sad.