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[Nathos]

If they do wanted to create a brilliant cliffhanger, the response is not what they expected.

[Kronner]

Bad writing and retarded cliffhanger.

[2484Stryker]

elferin91 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

elferin91 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Apocsapel91 wrote...

elferin91 wrote...

Yea trilogy should definitly end with a cliffhanger

Halo 3 Legendary Ending, but then again, Halo 4 is being made, so...

But Halo 3 wrapped up its story - the Covenant are no longer a threat to humanity and the threat of the Flood is gone.

If ME3's ending is a cliffhanger, then the story isn't finished. The Reapers are still alive, and Earth is still under their control.

Also unlike Halo, Shepard isn't as important as Master Chief is it's own story. ME has bigger focus on decisions, consequnces and people around him. Though don't get me wrong, he is important, but minority cares if he's dead or alive. His/her story had to end one way or another, but not like this :/

Shepard's ending isn't that bad if you ask me - giving his life to save the galaxy is something both paragon and renegade Shepard would do in a heartbeat. A paragon would sacrifice themselves if it meant saving trillions, and a renegade is willing to whatever it takes to win - if that means death, then so be it.

It may be a bit depressing, but I think Shepard's story ends well. He was brought back from the dead to end the threat of the Reapers, and with that threat gone he can finally be at peace.

Its the bad sendoff for the other characters, and the lack of sendoff for any of the choices, that ruin the endings.

yea that's what i said
P.S. just checking if we are on the same page

And I doubt very few people actually have a problem with Shepard dying.  It's the events leading up to his death and how he died and the choices he supposedly made in the ending that disturbes the rest of us.

Again, and I'm not saying that's what you're implying here, but most of us with problems about the ending aren't arguing for a fairytale ending.

[Berkilak]

All cliffhangers are inherently bad writing. They present contrived situations in order to retain your attention instead of compelling content.

[Andur4]

Badly written cliffhanger for a game that was supposed to give closure.

[XqctaX]

bad writing on purpuse that ends in cliffhanger.

Even DEITZ could have done the ending better IMO and that saying alot.

i mean atleast we would get to see sheperd eat dinner 2 times with LI after winning the war, roflmao

[xMellowhype]

If it's good writing and they intended the indoctrination theory those writers wouldn't hesitate to shove it in our faces of how sophisticated the ending was. Nope definitely crappy writing.

[Nevaeh15]

People are trying to imagine anything into the endings, like indoctrination, just so they can believe they didn't get the ending they got. The only thing that could be brilliant about the ending of my dear ME saga.... is if it's some kind of troll. It would be one of the most brilliant I've encountered.

[Dark Wyn]

Kratz wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

If the indoctrination theory is true and the REAL ending will be released soon, then kudos, best cliffhanger ever.

Yep and a lot of the haters will be kissing Bioware's bootstraps once again.

Gamers are a fickle bunch

I sure hope it IS true Kratz.
I'm not a hater of Bioware by any means.  I've always supported them and their games and ME became my altime favorite ever.
But THIS ending....it just feels now that I've wasted so many hours playing the series only to be jetisoned into the trash.

I want to hope.  I really, REALLY do.
But their silence in wake of how much damage "the final hours" is doing. 
That alone speaks for itself to me.

But I'll continue to hope, even if it's barely a flicker.

[Nauks]

Silasqtx wrote...

If the indoctrination theory is true and the REAL ending will be released soon, then kudos, best cliffhanger ever.

If not, terribad writing.

Pretty much this ^^
Keeping hope alive...

[Candidate 88766]

elferin91 wrote...

yea that's what i said
P.S. just checking if we are on the same page

Pretty sure we are.

Shepard's payoff: good.
Normandy crew's payoff: bad.
Decision payoff: generally bad (some decisions have major impacts during the story, but we don;t get to see the payoff of our ending decision).

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 15 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[DrowNoble]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Bad writing.

Bioware isn't Franz Kafka.

Yep bad writing.  A cliffhanger was the end of ME2.  There was still a distinct "end" as the Collectors were defeated and the base dealt with (destroyed or saved for Cerberus).  Then we see the Reaper Armada moving in(the cliffhanger part).   No plot holes.  The story of ME2 came to a close, with hints at what was to come.  

ME3 had none of that.

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

[Candidate 88766]

2484Stryker wrote...

And I doubt very few people actually have a problem with Shepard dying.  It's the events leading up to his death and how he died and the choices he supposedly made in the ending that disturbes the rest of us.

Again, and I'm not saying that's what you're implying here, but most of us with problems about the ending aren't arguing for a fairytale ending.

I believe I'm right in saying that the main problems are:

-The lack of payoff for the characters - most of them crash on a random planet through a contrivance you cannot prevent.
-The lack of payoff for the ME3 choices - while many ME1 and ME2 choices have massive roles in ME3's story, the choices we make in ME3 like our ending choice or our choice over the Genophage have no payoff.
-The child Catalyst ghost thing.

[KorPhaeron]

crap writing

[the red boon]

This is easy.
Bad writing.

[DrowNoble]

Nauks wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

If the indoctrination theory is true and the REAL ending will be released soon, then kudos, best cliffhanger ever.

If not, terribad writing.

Pretty much this ^^
Keeping hope alive...

Problem with the dream/indoctrination theory is that it leads to an even worse ending.  No one got to the beam, so nobody got to the Citadel.  No one on Citadel, Crucible didn't fire as a result.  No Crucible firing, no reapers dead.   No Reapers dead, Reapers destroy Earth, galaxy to follow.  Not sure HOW that is an improvement from what we already have.

Remember people: HOLD THE LINE

[agathokakological]

Bad writers think it's a brilliant cliffhanger. Hold the line.

Modifié par agathokakological, 15 mars 2012 - 11:55 .

[Blayzereborn]

Bad writing.

[Zing Freelancer]

ChristopherJohnShepard wrote...

By the time I regrouped with my crew and spoke to everyone over that short range com-terminal I really didn't feel like I was taking back earth like the ME3 promos promised
I ended the game with an military force value over 7000 because I made sure that from all the way back in ME1 my choices reflected my objective of preparing the galaxy for the reaper invasion and I was expecting to see cutscenes in ME3 where my choices paid off with the reapers being unprepared to face my overwhelming force of every able bodied member of every sentient species in the galaxy

You are on to something here friend. When I got to Earth and began final mission, everyone is like saying "good bye shep, nice knowing you" and I went in my mind "WTF? I am here to kick some Reaper ass and chew bubblegum!". I got the largest fleet this galaxy have seen, even the Elcor heavy infantry and Krogan riding some "previously" extinct animal, not to mention GETH! Garrus and Wrex are here too, there is no way Shepard can fail, everything IS PERFECTLY ALIGNED!

Honestly, the whole "good bye" part is really weird. Even during Collectors suicide mission, your crew had a "HOPE" of success. When Shepard went to retake the Earth, there was no hope.

[I have to go]

It's only a good cliffhanger if it's followed up on. If not, it's just bad writing.

[shamE12]

I N D O C T R I N A T I O N 

[The Smitchens]

Dave3172 wrote...

Bad writing. You don't end a trilogy with a cliffhanger. That'd be like ending Return of Jedi just as Vader is deciding to ice the Emperor.

Then we suddenly see the Millenium Flacon stranded on some unknown planet.

[Nobrandminda]

 Bad writing.  If there weren't so many plot holes and inconsistancies with the overall narrative, I might be inclined to believe otherwise.