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Bad writing or brilliant cliffhanger?


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#101
AwesomeDudex64

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I'm passed the denial stage. Bad writing.

#102
Scitenik

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Bad writing.

Confusing considering the rest of the game was great writing.

Such a weird dichotomy.

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III_wAR

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Bad writing, which I find odd, they've had 5 years to come up with an ending and this incoherent mess is what we get. Bravo

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betd2

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Bad writing

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Spectre_Shepard

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right now it looks like terrible writing.

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WhiteVV1ings

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III_wAR wrote...

Bad writing, which I find odd, they've had 5 years to come up with an ending and this incoherent mess is what we get. Bravo


That is what I believe makes a lot of people mad. They nealry or perfected ME1 and ME2, then did the same to ME3 but went left field in the ending. 

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Eyeshield21

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bad cliffhanger=bad writing. This was the end of a trilogy, not the middle or the beginning of one, THE END.

#108
Reign762

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Allow me to explain Trilogy. The first one sets the story. The second part typically (not always) ends in a very dark setting or foreshadows gloom where it seems all hope is lost. And the third shows the triumph of adversity and typically removes most of the questions. Minor questions are ok, but important ones are typically answered not left for speculation ... in bioware's case speculation = bat S*** confused.

I'm not sure what Creating Writing courses Mac Walters took other than the free ones offered at the local library.

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nevar00

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It's a brilliant cliffhanger that could end up as bad writing if we ever see the actual ending.

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Reign762

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nevar00 wrote...

It's a brilliant cliffhanger that could end up as bad writing if we ever see the actual ending.


We have seen the actual ending.

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ticklefist

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This is even bad by comic book standards and they purposely ****** their fans off and leave them hanging.

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Erszebeth

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Bad writing AND bad editing. The ending could try to explain why Joker is trying to escape, for instance.

#113
XqctaX

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Sometime in the near future outside a bioware employe home



rofl

#114
ollec92

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After finishing Mass effect 3 i felt empty... I felt as if a void of nothingness had consumed me. "What kind of ending is this?!" Right up until the end I viewed it as one oft the three greatest games of all time. However, my opinion was then corrupted by wahat I thought were poor writing...
It has taken a few days of contemplation and the aid of a certain video to turn that opinion around. It is not untill you realize what might realy be going on that you appreciate the current ending. I'm certain you can find this somewhere else on this website, but i belive that everyone who is the least intrested in the ending to Mass effect 3 should watch this exceptionally well made video.


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mackan__s

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Shepards story may be a Trilogy.. Maybe.. So, i will say a good Cliffhanger.. A Cliffhanger ending with qoute "Ok, Just one more story" isnt bad. But if its really the end of Shepard, then i will consider..But we dont for SURE know it yet, even if Bioware says it.

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BadlyBrowned wrote...

So.......where does having a cliffhanger to end a trilogy make it brilliant?


Saying it was only a Trilogy was part of the plan. It's really a quadrilogy.
Simple really!
Perfect plan. Pure Genius! Also exactly what I would expect from Bioware's writting abilities :D

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RaenImrahl

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It's hard to say "bad writing" given the quality of the trilogy overall. I think of it as a poor choice made in the name of art and, possibly, for the sake of real-world considerations (like the increased difficulty of programming vastly-divergent endings).

Ever see the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey? Ever read the book (which was developed by Arthur C. Clarke concurrently with the film)?

What we got was the movie ending... which was both hailed for its thought-provoking artistry and panned as being incomprehensible. What we needed was more of the book's ending... where Clarke explains the narrative to a full conclusion.

EDIT:  I still think this could mostly be fixed with a Dragon Age: Origins style epilogue, where we're told how some of the many choices we made throughout the series did, or did not, pay off.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 17 mars 2012 - 12:27 .


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CitizenSnips

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A cliffhanger ending is bad writing because a cliffhanger isn't a true ending. The proper use of a cliffhanger is to generate suspense or interest in the next segment of the series, not to end the series itself.

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Nykara

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mushoops86anjyl wrote...

A cliffhanger ending is bad writing because a cliffhanger isn't a true ending. The proper use of a cliffhanger is to generate suspense or interest in the next segment of the series, not to end the series itself.


It wouldn't have worked if people didn't believe first that it was the last game for Shepards story. Otherwise everyone would simply be saying 'Well Shepard can't be dead or there wouldn't be a ME4." So first sow the seed that this is the last one so people believe that Shepard is in fact dead, the relays are in fact blown up etc etc and THEN you have a 'real' cliffhanger where by people believe what they saw to be the truth - before you tell them otherwise.

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CitizenSnips

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Nykara wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

A cliffhanger ending is bad writing because a cliffhanger isn't a true ending. The proper use of a cliffhanger is to generate suspense or interest in the next segment of the series, not to end the series itself.


It wouldn't have worked if people didn't believe first that it was the last game for Shepards story. Otherwise everyone would simply be saying 'Well Shepard can't be dead or there wouldn't be a ME4." So first sow the seed that this is the last one so people believe that Shepard is in fact dead, the relays are in fact blown up etc etc and THEN you have a 'real' cliffhanger where by people believe what they saw to be the truth - before you tell them otherwise.


But if you add on to the story the cliffhanger ending is no longer an ending. It's now a properly used cliffhanger.

Modifié par mushoops86anjyl, 17 mars 2012 - 12:43 .