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[The Spamming Troll]

i can understand jacobs high percentage. hes your first squadmate, opens up LM first as well, and i bet ALOT of ppl let jacob bring back survivors on the collector base so hes almost second easiest to keep alive after miranda.

TOR sucks??? i dont play PC games.....

[JeffZero]

Sparatus wrote...

You do not leave an ending like this vague
Fans wished to have closure
Please take writing class

You know, it's a shame too. I was getting into Western gaming for the first remotely serious time this past few years and one thing that stood out to me was that unlike most Japanese gaming, in the more 'high-level story-intensive' companies like BioWare they hire actual writers to pen their stories instead of promoting programmers. Not that programmers always fail at writing by any means. Some of my favorite plots still come from Japanese games. It's just rare; almost like a fluke when it happens.

BioWare consistently proved that hiring 'certified' writers for their games was the way to go with this series until the last several minutes, at which point the top-level creators managed to kick that notion in the head repeatedly.

[RebelByDesign]

I see. Is the ending completely void of logic and sense on purpose also?

[Agremont2]

devSin wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

I can agree with that, but not with teleporting squadmates and Normandy's inexplicable actions. That's just bad storytelling.

This bugs me more than anything.

I have this terrible suspicion that these scenes were mostly done prior to whatever final decision they had on the ending, and they just used them in a way that might make the ending look more hopeful or bittersweet without stopping to think what it meant.

So it makes no sense, it's a betrayal of the story, of the characters, and of Shepard... and yet there is no actual meaning behind it. It's there so you could imagine a warm feeling over some of your squad surviving.

+1

[PrinceOfFallout13]

so shep living isn't cannon?

[SweetJeeba]

Greed1914 wrote...

Wait

- Casey: 'Everyone is going to have a different ending to some degree based on their choices and their galactic readiness, so it was important for me to have one final scene where everyone has the exact same experience.'
.

What pisses me off about this is, it assumes I don't know everyone got the same ending as me,  the entire ending was the same, where is this guys publicist to keep him from saying these things.

Did my collectors edition include "really crappy and irreplaceable ending that's the same for all". While Casey has a game with actual differing endings?

[DashRunner92]

Lost Cipher wrote...

mrderp27 wrote...

Schrijver wrote...


- Crucible will cause 'galactic dark age'.

hello, deus ex!

No... hello Dragon Age.

Deus Ex came out over a decade ago.. 

[Elite Midget]

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

so shep living isn't cannon?

No, Sheperd never existed. Liara is the only thing canon.

[Xaijin]

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

Mac Walters can't write, says world

This is the guy who made Wrex and Garrus so memorable in 1.

Boggles the mind.

[Greed1914]

Kronner wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

If Mac Walters had this planned out from the start, I want to know why Casey Hudson felt the need to lie about this. Repeatedly.

Don't say he had to. He didn't have to say it'd be this way. He could've just not talked about it. Instead he specifically said these things.
Does he not know things on the internet last forever?

Exactly. That's why I am really mad about it.

Yeah.  At least if he hadn't mentioned what the endings were going to be like then they could probably get away with saying that we were just making assumption.  But it's pretty hard to say the error was on our end when we're told things like "it won't just be A/B/C" and then it's exactly that. 

[JeffZero]

End of the day, I can almost accept it all. But the Normandy crash doesn't get a follow-up DLC (that's right, I'm still willing to pay for it, but only it) and I'm done. That was just hackneyed as hell. Nevermind that it's a bad note to end things on but it's also completely wrong. The ship should not have been there. There's just no getting around that. The least the writers can do is use up one of their planned single-player DLCs on a follow-up.

Let's see, who still can't die? Joker, Liara and Vega, right? Sure, the latter two can get blasted by an energy beam but they're OK anyway because why the eff not, so let's include them.

And Mac loves Vega so damn much, right? So Mac, postpone that silly anime project and pen two of your favorite characters working to get Alliance ships traveling at FTL speeds to the Normandy's location for some small token gesture of closure. Pronto. Please. Thanks.

[louislingg]

I realize now that what they gave us the closure on is the fate of the galaxy, ie, it's screwed. and they intentionally left the fate of the Normandy and it's crew vague because up until the blowup over the ending it seems like it never entered their mind to do anything after ME3.

except for that "one more story about the Shepard" line, which is probably alluding to DLC more than anything.

[JeffZero]

Xaijin wrote...

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

Mac Walters can't write, says world

This is the guy who made Wrex and Garrus so memorable in 1.

Boggles the mind.

Yeah, exactly. I still don't buy that. He clearly can't write endings but this still hasn't changed my mind on the guy in general. It's obvious he's just a hell of a lot better at character-writing.

[savionen]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Lost Cipher wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Jacob survived more often than Tali? There's something that seems very wrong about that.

I liked Jacobs character far more than Tali's. His story was very similar to that of Shepards. Used by the politicians and admirals, and then thrown under the bus as a result. It was nice to see him get a family in ME3.

I assure you that you are in the minority on this one.

I was unaware that anyone actually liked Jacob, ever.

[Dybia]

SweetJeeba wrote...

Greed1914 wrote...

Wait

- Casey: 'Everyone is going to have a different ending to some degree based on their choices and their galactic readiness, so it was important for me to have one final scene where everyone has the exact same experience.'
.

What pisses me off about this is, it assumes I don't know everyone got the same ending as me,  the entire ending was the same, where is this guys publicist to keep him from saying these things.

Did my collectors edition include "really crappy and irreplaceable ending that's the same for all". While Casey has a game with actual differing endings?

His publicist must have been the guy that worked for Sarah Palin as a fact checker.

[JeffZero]

savionen wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Lost Cipher wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Jacob survived more often than Tali? There's something that seems very wrong about that.

I liked Jacobs character far more than Tali's. His story was very similar to that of Shepards. Used by the politicians and admirals, and then thrown under the bus as a result. It was nice to see him get a family in ME3.

I assure you that you are in the minority on this one.

I was unaware that anyone actually liked Jacob, ever.

I like Jacob.

[Jarlaxlecq]

Warlock Adam wrote...

Everything I want to say would get me thrown off the forums.

Just hold the motherf***ing line.

This ^

[JeffZero]

Sparatus wrote...

savionen wrote...

I was unaware that anyone actually liked Jacob, ever.

Breathless, glinting skin
Muscles working in rhythm
Cloaked desire watches


Looking at me now
His indifferent eyes smile
I am a puddle


Beautiful and good
Punishing with his kindness
Jacob is perfect

XD Well played.

[louislingg]

Sparatus likes Jacob

[Doomhams]

- Jacob Taylor survived the suicide mission in 93.3 percent of all games, Tali only 75.7.

I'm going to put this up to using Tali in the vents in the beginning and then screwing up the leader part.

[Sashimi_taco]

It is clear to me now that they are not going to admit they made a huge mistake. I thought they would at least admit it, but now they are either are lying now or they lied 2 weeks ago. And not even a little lie, a huge lie. The only way I will ever buy another bioware product again is if they fix the endings, which i think they will not now. How can they say they made them like this on purpose when they said 2 weeks ago they said something completely different?

I think they have lost a huge part of their fan base because of this. I can't believe they would make such a huge lie and tell it like it was real. I'm so disappointed. I can't believe i trusted you, Bioware.

[Timpossible21]

Crucible will cause 'galactic dark age

So everyone will starve in sol system and we united the galaxy for...nothing?
It's getting more and more depressing? Is this some kind of cultthing? where everybody who believed in bioware has to commit suicide? Or what are they trying?

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Xaijin wrote...

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

Mac Walters can't write, says world

This is the guy who made Wrex and Garrus so memorable in 1.

Boggles the mind.

Garrus wasn't all that interesting in ME1. He became a much better character after he switched writers.

[Catroi]

I'm not going to comment considering the "zero tolerance" policy