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Doppelgaenger wrote...

Okay. I think I found the best description of the game so far in one of those reviews: "An utterly brilliant disaster."

Yes that sure fits.


Sig-worthy for sure.

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kbct wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Okay. I think I found the best description of the game so far in one of those reviews: "An utterly brilliant disaster."

Yes that sure fits.


Sig-worthy for sure.


Unless endings don't really matter to you. :huh:

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There are now almost 1000 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average rating is 2.2 out of 5 stars.

This is not good.

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kbct wrote...

There are now almost 1000 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average rating is 2.2 out of 5 stars.

This is not good.


It's not good? Hmm. Well, tragedy rarely is. But ME3 is critically flawed at, many would argue, its most critical point. So though I'm not happy with the state of affairs & so would agree with you it's not 'good'. It *is* good that the truth is getting out there. Hopefully something good in the end will come out of all this.

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I was one of the reviewers. I felt that as good as the game is the ending destroyed the entire series. I don't like that it is that way but I feel I had to say how I felt.

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Think of it as going to Disney world and having the time of your life, but on the last day Mickey Mouse kills your mom. A silly and extreme analogy but the feeling of confusion, sadness etc. that one would get from this experience could destroy Disney for you. Like the ending of Mass Effect destroyed the series.

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JunMadine wrote...

Think of it as going to Disney world and having the time of your life, but on the last day Mickey Mouse kills your mom. A silly and extreme analogy but the feeling of confusion, sadness etc. that one would get from this experience could destroy Disney for you. Like the ending of Mass Effect destroyed the series.


Exactly. Many have said "It's the Journey, not the destination." But if your awesome train trip ends in a horrific accident, then it don't matter much about the nice scenery you saw along the way...

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I gave it a 2 on Amazon for the following 3 reasons

1 The Day 1 DLC for $10 or having to buy the CE for $80
2 Multiplayer being tied to the ending you got then those percentages bonuses you get go down if you don't keep playing it.
3 The ending was so disappointing it made me not want to play it again with my other Shepard's thus ruining any replay value the game was expected to have.

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Ronin1325 wrote...

But that is exactly where the vast majority of users were lied to about the product. Hence, that is where they are focusing. How is this not logical? 


And for the final time, I do not see the lie:

* read of 15 varied conclusions - Check!

* non-typical ending - Check!

* Previous decisions affected which outcome one played - Check!

Perhaps some of you will 'feel' better once your Mommy wakes you up from your naps. And I hope the tanking of scores purposely comes back to securely fasten your diapers for some time to come.

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556 reviews are in still at 2/5 stars. the most votes is 1 star with 300 reviewers.

As Casey's response...It is just talk. There needs to be action with all that talk. Bioware has already shown that ME3 is just talk and lack of action...from there promises they made for the game.

They need to step up there game to appease the pissed off fans.

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Mars8309 wrote...

556 reviews are in still at 2/5 stars. the most votes is 1 star with 300 reviewers.

As Casey's response...It is just talk. There needs to be action with all that talk. Bioware has already shown that ME3 is just talk and lack of action...from there promises they made for the game.

They need to step up there game to appease the pissed off fans.


No they don't; only really need to consider whether placating these children is worth the investment.

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I cannot believe how many people are actually trash talking consumer reviews on Amazon. I'm sorry but the nearly ~600 review to date aren't a result of "review bombing" as one person put it.

Consumer evaluation is just as critical at the END as it is in the beginning or middle.

Imagine buying a brand car you always wanted, initially it works great, and shortly there after it either completely falls apart or has tremendous amounts of problems. I'm quite sure you'd go to the dealership and either A) ask for your money back or B) NEVER by a car of that brand or from that dealership again.

Or imagine that car you purchased lasts a good 10+ years, is reliable, and you had minimal financial input into it but after all of this time you want a new car just to change things up.  Your opinion from start to finish will affect how you do business with a company now and in the future.

Here is a real world example of this for those of you who know who Jeremy Clarkson is:
http://www.gminsiden...nd-dream-16781/

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Elhanan wrote...

Mars8309 wrote...

556 reviews are in still at 2/5 stars. the most votes is 1 star with 300 reviewers.

As Casey's response...It is just talk. There needs to be action with all that talk. Bioware has already shown that ME3 is just talk and lack of action...from there promises they made for the game.

They need to step up there game to appease the pissed off fans.


No they don't; only really need to consider whether placating these children is worth the investment.


You've admitted to not playing through the game & seeing the endings. You therefore do not know how egregiously developer statements made before & after the game came out are false. People spent an average of $180 on this series and deserve what they were promised. Calling them 'children' is illogical & silly. If you're not intending to be a troll, then please stop being so insulting.

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Ronin1325 wrote...

You've admitted to not playing through the game & seeing the endings. You therefore do not know how egregiously developer statements made before & after the game came out are false. People spent an average of $180 on this series and deserve what they were promised. Calling them 'children' is illogical & silly. If you're not intending to be a troll, then please stop being so insulting.


To me it looks like the funds spent on the series equates to the approximate amt it takes to purchase the ethical morality of these gamer; ones willing to tank a review because they did not get what they want.
 
But maybe you're right; maybe they aren't children.  At least children have integrity for a while; no charge either.

Personally, I hope Amazon itself can take action aginst the lot of them, and that somewhere; someone will stand up to these cyber whiners and simply say enough.

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I hate the endings. And by hate I mean I absolutely despise them.

But I think it is kind of a shame that the horrible endings are preventing people from fully enjoying what is otherwise a great game. Up until Shepard took that elevator ride at the end, Mass Effect 3 was my favorite game of the series.

Hopefully there will be DLC that provides a more satisfying and appropriate conclusion to the series.

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I liked New Vegas too, played the poo out of it, bought all of the DLC, so I don't see much of a problem. They got my money. If anyone is to blame for them not getting a bonus, it;s their bosses who bribed them with the meta score.


They didn't get alot of money. The game sold out the hole but their publisher took the lion's share, at least according to Chris Avellone.

You should read about the Obsidian layoffs, and take a look at the "OEI employee obituary" over at their forums. Its incredibly depressing how expendable development staff are, how they can turn up to work every day, work their hearts out and still face 8 rounds of layoffs in a 12 year period. Contract work is rough as it is, because you have to live your life between contracts. Alot of them seem to take it on the chin (like it comes with the territory) but it shouldn't have to be this way.

It made me lose hope for the future of the industry.

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I have a hard time understanding the low scores, the game isn't bad enough to receive a 1/5 score.
I gave a review of 4/5. The only reason I didn't give it a perfect 5/5 was due to the atrocious endings and the fact that we were forced to play multiplayer in order to get the best ending possible.

Just my opinion, please don't hate :?

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av196vad wrote...

I have a hard time understanding the low scores, the game isn't bad enough to receive a 1/5 score.
I gave a review of 4/5. The only reason I didn't give it a perfect 5/5 was due to the atrocious endings and the fact that we were forced to play multiplayer in order to get the best ending possible.

Just my opinion, please don't hate :?


4/5 is a fair review. 98% of the game is amazing, and it is really only the endings that are disappointing. Unfortunaately most fans are completely incapable of giving a balanced review. Every game is either given the higest rating or the lowest possible rating. Because so many people are angry about ME3's endings, they are giving the game a rating of 1/5 or 2/5.

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Han Shot First wrote...

av196vad wrote...

I have a hard time understanding the low scores, the game isn't bad enough to receive a 1/5 score.
I gave a review of 4/5. The only reason I didn't give it a perfect 5/5 was due to the atrocious endings and the fact that we were forced to play multiplayer in order to get the best ending possible.

Just my opinion, please don't hate :?


4/5 is a fair review. 98% of the game is amazing, and it is really only the endings that are disappointing. Unfortunaately most fans are completely incapable of giving a balanced review. Every game is either given the higest rating or the lowest possible rating. Because so many people are angry about ME3's endings, they are giving the game a rating of 1/5 or 2/5.


Thanks, thought I was the only one. I too was depressed after I've beaten the game and seen the ending. After gathering my thoughts I gave a fair and honest review.

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I think a lot of those negative reviews would have been postitive reviews if Bioware didn't screw up on the ending.

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Canned Bullets wrote...

I think a lot of thsoe negative reviews would be postitive reviews if Bioware didn't screw up on the ending.


I agree. It is kind of a shame really. A great game is being dragged down by a bad ending.

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Elhanan wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

You've admitted to not playing through the game & seeing the endings. You therefore do not know how egregiously developer statements made before & after the game came out are false. People spent an average of $180 on this series and deserve what they were promised. Calling them 'children' is illogical & silly. If you're not intending to be a troll, then please stop being so insulting.


To me it looks like the funds spent on the series equates to the approximate amt it takes to purchase the ethical morality of these gamer; ones willing to tank a review because they did not get what they want.
 
But maybe you're right; maybe they aren't children.  At least children have integrity for a while; no charge either.

Personally, I hope Amazon itself can take action aginst the lot of them, and that somewhere; someone will stand up to these cyber whiners and simply say enough.


You seem to be a little bit confused on how a review works.  If you don't like a game,  you don't give it a good review.  Apparently,  quite a few people didn't like the game,  and so it's average score ends up low.

If you like the game,  that's fine.  But your preconceived notions on how reviews work are pretty far off-base. 

Ironically,  I'd be willing to bet alot of money that if we put you in front of a bad movie,  or a bad TV show,  you would give it a bad review.  I'm pretty confident you aren't posting this same defense on the IMDB board of every movie that received bad reviews.

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Gatt9 wrote...

You seem to be a little bit confused on how a review works.  If you don't like a game,  you don't give it a good review.  Apparently,  quite a few people didn't like the game,  and so it's average score ends up low.

If you like the game,  that's fine.  But your preconceived notions on how reviews work are pretty far off-base. 

Ironically,  I'd be willing to bet alot of money that if we put you in front of a bad movie,  or a bad TV show,  you would give it a bad review.  I'm pretty confident you aren't posting this same defense on the IMDB board of every movie that received bad reviews.


No confusion; read reviews saying things like they were enthralled by the gameplay, and it consumed time for them until the final 10 minutes. And this ending moved them so emotionally, that they were in shock. And the resultant feeling of depression 'made' them give the game a 1/5 rating despite the past hours of solid play. Etc.

When I read reviews such as this, and also read of concerted stunts encouraging such behaviour to get 'them' to change the ending, I do not think much of the reviewer, the agitators, and those that leap off the same cliff in like spectacle at all. No empathy; just a desire to splash them with cold water. I see emotions overwhelming reason.
 
I am more reminded of another group of mindless husks in need of brains.

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Elhanan wrote...

I am more reminded of another group of mindless husks in need of brains.


With personal attacks like this, I see that I need not ever look at any more posts you make in this thread. Any points you might have had are immediately invalidated.

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Elhanan wrote...
No confusion; read reviews saying things like they were enthralled by the gameplay, and it consumed time for them until the final 10 minutes. And this ending moved them so emotionally, that they were in shock. And the resultant feeling of depression 'made' them give the game a 1/5 rating despite the past hours of solid play. Etc.


Seriously ? The endings are mess the game goes from Mass Effect to Mess Effect. Not only that, the endings are the same. The reason people are angry has nothing to do with the endings being good. It's all to do with how the endings don't offer any closure, are riddled with plot holes and carry distasteful implications.

Some things completely invalidate whatever went before. Like finding out that super hot girl you hooked up with gave you an STD.

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