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[thunderhawk862002]

Here's a great one:

"I've been a fan of this series since ME1 so I've been looking forward to this game for a long time. In the end it was worth the wait. ME3 gives us a conclusion to all the various storylines introduced in the preceding games and further refines it's very good gameplay. Is it a perfect game: no. Is it an amazing game nonetheless: yes."

It's not perfect and yet they rate it a 5/5? Just saying it cuts both ways. This time it's opposite of what it usually is. As long as you justify the 1/5 or a 5/5 then I have no problem with either.

[AkiKishi]

kbct wrote...

There are over 700 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average for ME3 is 2.5 out of 5 stars.

Both ME1 and ME2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Even DA2 got 3.5 out of 5 stars.

lower than DA2 yikes thats some serious rensentment.

[Ailith Tycane]

Idiotking wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Bioware is a company, they can't afford to be that petty when their future paychecks are on the line.

Just because they can't afford it doesn't mean they won't do it.  They're human beings.

They're human beings who work for a greater company that makes products for consumers. The customer is always right and all that jazz, it still applies here. If they have any sense of professionalism they wouldn't dare use the negative press or reactions to the endings as a means to keep future DLC from people out of spite. That's ridiculous. It would make them into the petty entitled children their fans are being portrayed as now.

I have never once said "Bioware will never have my money again" out of anger, I feel it's a silly statement to make, fueled by passion. But if Bioware did what you are suggesting, then they DEFINATELY would never have my business again. It would show them to be immature in their business model, taking out vendetas against the very fans that have made them wealthy. BUT, They wont do that, because they aren't that dumb and have proven so in the past, so this is all hypothetical.

[BuffPhantoms]

BobSmith101 wrote...

kbct wrote...

There are over 700 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average for ME3 is 2.5 out of 5 stars.

Both ME1 and ME2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Even DA2 got 3.5 out of 5 stars.

lower than DA2 yikes thats some serious rensentment.

Yeah, it shows people are rating the whole game with pure resentment and anger, and not really what it deserves.

Gladly it officially has a average 94% critic score, which is universal and drives sales the most.

[kbct]

BuffPhantoms wrote...

BSN and 4chan troll bombin user review sites.

I'll trust the 93% and 94% critic reviews that people actually use to buy games.

So? You may not consider Amazon user reviews to be valuable, but casual gamers do. Casual gamers are the people that will be buying the game over the next months.

A low score on Amazon is not good.

[RocketManSR2]

BioWare wanted to polarize the fanbase. Now we have user review wars going on. I'd say that they succeeded admirably. :/

- The old "customer is always right" policy died years ago. 

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 16 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[ODST 3]

BobSmith101 wrote...
As the flagship title this thing should have been bulletproof. You have multiple endings, it's easy to make everyone happy to some degree or another as long as the possibilities are refelcted by the game.

Exactly. How could they screw up a game where any kind of ending can happen?

[KotorEffect3]

BobSmith101 wrote...

kbct wrote...

There are over 700 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average for ME3 is 2.5 out of 5 stars.

Both ME1 and ME2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Even DA2 got 3.5 out of 5 stars.

lower than DA2 yikes thats some serious rensentment.

Yeah I have lost faith in the fan base.  Bioware had one hiccup at the end of what was an amazing game.  The fan base it seems has finally lost their nut.

[kbct]

BobSmith101 wrote...

kbct wrote...

There are over 700 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average for ME3 is 2.5 out of 5 stars.

Both ME1 and ME2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Even DA2 got 3.5 out of 5 stars.

lower than DA2 yikes thats some serious rensentment.

Yeah, I know. And we all know what happend to DA2 sales. This is worse.

[thunderhawk862002]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

There are also people who go on Amazon and metacritic and give 100% ratings with such great analysis as BEST GAME EVAR. I don't hear you guys whining about them.

Boom. 

Hypocrisy.At.Its.Finest.


Face it, Bioware screwed up with those endings... stop trying to defend them on that.

Stop condemning the whole game over 5 lousy minutes while ignoring the rest of the game.  They didn't screw up near as bad you you hyperreactive "fans" have with your irrational overreaction.

I disagree completely.  The whole series is based on player's choice.  In the end you never see the effects of your choices except your choice of the last three.  That doesn't even matter because there's no real difference between them without a proper epilogue.    Please explain to me how my choice of Wrex/Wreav leading the Krogans matters to the Krogans?  You can't.  How about Harrowmont and Bhelen from Dragon Age: Origins?  Yes there is a signficant diffrence between the two on their effect on Orzammar.   In which game does your choices TRULY matter?

[Mr. Gogeta34]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

BioWare wanted polarize the fanbase. Now we have user review wars going on. I'd say that they succeeded admirably. :/

Rather sadistic... isn't it?

[panamakira]

That's kind of what.........we all know they're trolling Amazon. Even with crap endings the game is most definitely NOT 1-2 stars.

[alikilar]

review bombed they didnt look at mass effect 3 as a whole they thought of it as a part of a series = what the pros thought when they reviewed it so 99 percent of the game is awsome "seperate from all the ME games" and the 1 percent makes everyone rage and give it bad reviews/

[streamlock]

I don't usually read any metacritic Amazon reviews-but since you posted a link, I checked them out.

Yeah, there was a couple (OMG IT SU><ORZ) bunch in there, but the first few I read had a lot of content and lisited how great alot of the game was-along with some of the real bummer stuff like the face import bug.

Then got to the ending and gave it like a 2 star or something. At least when I got to it, the reviews were much more in depth with a passable breakdown then what I expected. Spoiler-y as hell though.

I have a hard time coming up with a some kind of a score in my head. Due to the overshadowing issuue (currently).....Its like it created some kind of CPT violation with the whole trilogy.

I'll stop there-I'll end up loosing everybody if I try to explain that one.

[Ailith Tycane]

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Yeah I have lost faith in the fan base.  Bioware had one hiccup at the end of what was an amazing game.  The fan base it seems has finally lost their nut.

It wasn;t one hiccup, they ended an epic trilogy in a terrible way. That's sort of a big deal to the people who invested a lot of time into these games and the characters. I agree that most of the game was well done, but the ending being that bad really DOES mean a lot. Enough for me to give it one less star than I might have normally in a review. It's not just the end of a single game, this was the end to a trilogy.

[Elhanan]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Here's a great one:

"I've been a fan of this series since ME1 so I've been looking forward to this game for a long time. In the end it was worth the wait. ME3 gives us a conclusion to all the various storylines introduced in the preceding games and further refines it's very good gameplay. Is it a perfect game: no. Is it an amazing game nonetheless: yes."

It's not perfect and yet they rate it a 5/5? Just saying it cuts both ways. This time it's opposite of what it usually is. As long as you justify the 1/5 or a 5/5 then I have no problem with either.

Less than perfect may not equate to a score pf 80% in the mind of the reviewer. They may have thought of a score more like what some have posted in this very thread of 90-95%, and simply rounded up the score.

Bias in reading or writing reviews is both inadvisable.

[Redstar6]

I wonder if Casey will remember these reviews

[Mr. Gogeta34]

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Stop condemning the whole game over 5 lousy minutes while ignoring the rest of the game.  They didn't screw up near as bad you you hyperreactive "fans" have with your irrational overreaction.

They're not as bad as the worst comment and not as good as the best one.  Ultimately irrelevant.  What they did should not be encouraged...

You should realize that business has no "heart."  People's feelings and "fans" are a secondary concern in business...  If they can sell you a 90% completed game + Day 1 DLC (another 5% of the game) while cutting their dev budget in the process (by omitting a proper ending... in order to provide it as later DLC), they're going to do it.  That's how business works... if customers can tolerate taking it... they'll tolerate doing it. 

The industry does not need to follow in their footsteps... stop the buck here.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

panamakira wrote...

That's kind of what.........we all know they're trolling Amazon. Even with crap endings the game is most definitely NOT 1-2 stars.

It's a protest, obviously not a reflection on the rest of the game (the lowest scores anyway).

[Ailith Tycane]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Stop condemning the whole game over 5 lousy minutes while ignoring the rest of the game.  They didn't screw up near as bad you you hyperreactive "fans" have with your irrational overreaction.

They're not as bad as the worst comment and not as good as the best one.  Ultimately irrelevant.  What they did should not be encouraged...

You should realize that business has no "heart."  People's feelings and "fans" are a secondary concern in business...  If they can sell you a 90% completed game + Day 1 DLC (another 5% of the game) while cutting their dev budget in the process (by omitting a proper ending... in order to provide it as later DLC), they're going to do it.  That's how business works... if customers can tolerate taking it... they'll tolerate doing it. 

The industry does not need to follow in their footsteps... stop the buck here.

Basically this. If you're unhappy with a product, as a consumer you should tell the manufacturer, so that they don't repeat their mistakes and can continue to compete with other manufacturers. This is how capitalism works. This is how consumers continue to get a good deal from their products.

[KBomb]

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Stop condemning the whole game over 5 lousy minutes while ignoring the rest of the game.  They didn't screw up near as bad you you hyperreactive "fans" have with your irrational overreaction.

 
I think if someone spends money they earn on a product, that have a right to rate that product how they wish. You may not agree with it, but you don't have to. Perhaps the ending was enough to ruin the entire experience for them. It wasn't for you. Good. Differing opinions should be the new black.


Your love for the series and your condescending signature doesn't make you a better fan or consumer. Sometimes sycophantic fans can be as bad a hyper-reactive ones.

Modifié par KBomb, 16 mars 2012 - 01:31 .

[AkiKishi]

ODST 3 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
As the flagship title this thing should have been bulletproof. You have multiple endings, it's easy to make everyone happy to some degree or another as long as the possibilities are refelcted by the game.

Exactly. How could they screw up a game where any kind of ending can happen?

I have no idea sadly. If I were running the show I'd have rammed into them daily how this could NOT be another DA2 no matter what. It's the  end of the series, as long as you can get shot of the Reapers in a "realistic" manner. Let the folks have their little blue babies or whatever as long as it's a victory on a small scale with the Reapers still controlling everything else for the time being.

[RocketManSR2]

Ailith430 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Yeah I have lost faith in the fan base.  Bioware had one hiccup at the end of what was an amazing game.  The fan base it seems has finally lost their nut.

It wasn;t one hiccup, they ended an epic trilogy in a terrible way. That's sort of a big deal to the people who invested a lot of time into these games and the characters. I agree that most of the game was well done, but the ending being that bad really DOES mean a lot. Enough for me to give it one less star than I might have normally in a review. It's not just the end of a single game, this was the end to a trilogy.

Yes, they chose a questionable ending. However, you said it yourself, it was an epic journey when you stop and look back. I got to talking to Liara in 3 and damn near changed my LI because I felt that it was more natural. My Shepard and Liara had been friends a long time and I thought about finally having them take the next step. That was something special that I had never experienced playing video games before. I've had too much fun with this series to just give it up now. 

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 16 mars 2012 - 01:42 .

[AkiKishi]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

kbct wrote...

There are over 700 reviews across all platforms on Amazon. The average for ME3 is 2.5 out of 5 stars.

Both ME1 and ME2 got 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Even DA2 got 3.5 out of 5 stars.

lower than DA2 yikes thats some serious rensentment.

Yeah I have lost faith in the fan base.  Bioware had one hiccup at the end of what was an amazing game.  The fan base it seems has finally lost their nut.

That's not a hiccup it's stupidity or hubris made worse by promising the opposite of what they delivered.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

The ending directly conflicts with the talent that Bioware employed across the rest of the series...

They're better than that... and they know it.