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[ksaf]

is two handed weapons the best weapon choice if i want to use massive armor (since dual wield would require a significant investment in dexterity and lighter armor, i think)? and how good is the damage dealing capabilities of the weapon + shield tree?
and what are the best specializations (im thinking champion/berzerker or maybe reaver/berzerker)?

thanks and sorry for the lousy grammar, not my first language.

[DrekorSilverfang]

Nope, if you're going for DPS DW completely outclasses 2h. You want berseker, second one is up to you, I tend to like champion for the AE knockdown. You need 36 dex for the top end DW talents everything else you can toss in str(and maybe a bit of con).

[Miguelitoson]

It depends,



If you think you are not going to be hit, ( mages cc or good tank) equip light-medium armor.

If you are going to get hit a lot, equip heavy-massive armor.

Furthermore, do you plan on using lots of activated abilities, use lighter armor. As it saves more stamina.

[Kailieann]

Dual-Wield: High DPS, Moderate Support, Low Tanking

Sword & Board: High Tanking, Moderate DPS, Low Support

Two-Handed: High Support, Moderate Tanking, Low DPS

Archer: Pointy sticks



They all work well enough, depending on what you want to use them for.

Also, Light Superior Dragon Scale Armor, if you can manage it.

[Zilod]

Miguelitoson wrote...

It depends,

If you think you are not going to be hit, ( mages cc or good tank) equip light-medium armor.
If you are going to get hit a lot, equip heavy-massive armor.
Furthermore, do you plan on using lots of activated abilities, use lighter armor. As it saves more stamina.

thers wade heavy dragon armor + the heavy bp sold at same shop that gives 1 armor less than massive dragon armor rating, negative fatigue, +2 regen action +1 regen hps, +10% chance to avoid mele attack and chance to avoid ranged attack

it costs a bit but imo is very worth

and btw 2h is not low dps... is higher dps than 1h+broad, just put them in a group with a mage with haste and you are set... not as good as dual dps wise but not even that far behind

Modifié par Zilod, 28 novembre 2009 - 10:00 .

[Serogon]

I've seen everyone saying how terrible Two Handed weapons are for DPS... which makes absolutely no sense to me. My two handed warrior ended up doing 42% of the damage my party did, and that was with me intentionally crippling myself by not using the Blood Dragon armor or Starfang. Why does everyone think it sucks so much?

EDIT: Oh, and concerning low hit rate complaints: I had 87% hit rate...

Modifié par Serogon, 28 novembre 2009 - 10:02 .

[Taritu]

Serogon wrote...

I've seen everyone saying how terrible Two Handed weapons are for DPS... which makes absolutely no sense to me. My two handed warrior ended up doing 42% of the damage my party did, and that was with me intentionally crippling myself by not using the Blood Dragon armor or Starfang. Why does everyone think it sucks so much?

EDIT: Oh, and concerning low hit rate complaints: I had 87% hit rate...

My DW did over 60% and I had a pretty steady group.  Mind you, I did use starfang, but that's not all the difference.  DW is better DPS, though 2h is respectable and there are some fights where indominitable is golden.

[Zilod]

well on hard my 2h have 56% of party dmg... not an high dmg party (Wynn as healer/buffer/minor cc, Leliana and Dog) but still quite a respectable dmg

[Zilod]

double post ftl

Modifié par Zilod, 28 novembre 2009 - 10:27 .

[Suron]

Serogon wrote...

I've seen everyone saying how terrible Two Handed weapons are for DPS... which makes absolutely no sense to me. My two handed warrior ended up doing 42% of the damage my party did, and that was with me intentionally crippling myself by not using the Blood Dragon armor or Starfang. Why does everyone think it sucks so much?

EDIT: Oh, and concerning low hit rate complaints: I had 87% hit rate...

because every ****** takes the most powerful (arguably Overpowered) set and makes it the status quo...

it's why you see idiotic threads like "melee useless" "2h useless" "xxx useless"

2h is just fine..my 2h warrior is a beast..I agree they swing too slow..but to say 2h is worthless is idiotic.

but as I said..it's because of this mentality we have threads stating there's no reason to play anything but a mage also

[weism]

If you want dps, strength Dual wield is the way to go. Dual wield master with momentum and 40 str, you will do more than 50% of party damage for sure. I made a rogue like this, and he is dishing out 60 damage per hit and lightning speed.

[Sirsmirkalot]

People who claim that 2handed warrior DPS is low and below Shield warrior DPS are doing something seriously wrong.

Modifié par Sirsmirkalot, 29 novembre 2009 - 01:03 .

[Loc'n'lol]

Serogon wrote...

 My two handed warrior ended up doing 42% of the damage my party did, and that was with me intentionally crippling myself by not using the Blood Dragon armor or Starfang. Why does everyone think it sucks so much?

That number means nothing. If anything, it is an indication of how much the rest of your party sucks, not how much your PC kicks ass.

[Ulrik the Slayer]

To answer the original question: Dual-wielding is better suited for Massive Armour usage. Dual-wielding gains a lot of damage from auto-attacks which don't cost Stamina. Two-hander-using Warriors do need to use their talents because their auto-attacks are somewhat lacking, so it is more of an issue for them.

[Hizoka003]

i am going on a serious play though with a 2h warrior... their DPS is actually pretty close to DW... 2h gets a bad rap because of the slow swing speed, people see more number with DW and simple minds see more numbers a larger damage...





its a matter of more small numbers are fewer big numbers

[grymstone]

In my opinion you cannot really compare dual wield with any other weapon style till you have haste simply because momentum is roughly 30% haste if i recall. Without haste it is literally impossible for the other 2 melee styles to keep up with dual wielders. That is before getting into the other benefits of dual wielding like 6 runes vs 3 and MANY more options for customizing your stats.



I read in another thread with input from a mod about how he stacked willpower and strength so he could quickly dump his cooldowns. He presented it more as a case of two handers using cooldowns vs dual wield using auto attack.



Of course fights in dragon age rarely work out where you can simply whack away at something without moving or getting knocked around. So maybe the two balance out but no matter how high your will is in any boss fight you will find your self waiting on stamina to regenerate and that is where dual wielders win out i think.



I guess it more or less comes down to personal preference. If you want to burden a mage with haste you can close the gap considerably and boost your tanks attack speed as well.

[ksaf]

thanks everyone.