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[AllergevKev]

Crappy games get released all the time. People buy them. The publishers make a lot of money. This happens A LOT. Nobody petitions the developers of said games to completely remake the game because it's not worth $50-$60. Now here's Mass Effect 3, a FANTASTIC game that messes up in only one area (albeit in a major way) and somehow we deserve a new ending FOR FREE?

Because you all know that if they charge for some sort of alternate ending it's gonna be paraded as "Publisher Greed" and the whole sha-bang. Everyone's gonna get in a fuss about it, in the mindset that they got some sort of incomplete game and they they deserve it.

Deserve it? We don't DESERVE anything. We payed $60-$90 (with Javik DLC) and got our money's worth out of those purchases. Those experiences were almost uniformly awesome. People saying that 5 minutes at the end of the game somehow invalidates the remainder of the great time they had with the game is ridiculous. And even if it did, the developer still wouldn't owe you anything. In that case, it would just be you making a bad purchase, you can't vilify a company for making money.

The entire  WE ARE ENTITLED TO A NEW ENDING FOR FREE argument comes from the fact that the rest of the game(s) is/are amazing and we want a proper conclusion for such an epic series. That's understandable. But considering the amazing games Bioware has made throughout the years, including the great series at hand, shouldn't this be the type of developer we be rewarding, not one we decry for their small mistakes? I personally have no gripes giving Bioware the chance to redeem the ending...and will gladly fork over another $10 for it in thanks for the great experiences they have given me throughout the years (Maybe not gladly, cash is tight these days, but you understand what I mean!)

Note: I understand many people share my POV on this issue, but I think it's necessary for others to see it as well. I am looking forward for any rebuttals as well. Gotta love a good debate:lol:

[Taleroth]

I agree with you. Deserve is not a good word.

We want a new ending. It would be good PR if it was free. It might be bad business, however.
Would it be bad PR to charge? That I'm not willing to hazard a guess.

Modifié par Taleroth, 16 mars 2012 - 01:56 .

[IntuitionJo]

We are entitled to what we bought, and unfortunately, we were subjected to a campaign of false advertising. Ultimately, the many diverse endings we were, and I cannot stress this enough, promised, are simply not there. We did not get what was advertised, and as such, we are entitled to the product that we thought we were buying.

Semantics. We are not entitled to a NEW ending for free. We are entitled to THE ending for free.

[Godlysnack]

I've given up on the hope for "free dlc" or any dlc to fix an ending at all.. I've finally come to realize that is the ending and we are done with the series.. no need to buy anymore dlc of any kind for this game its all over.. I'm going to translate that theory to all future bioware games so I don't get tricked into a failed series ever again..

[meiwow2]

What's the point of this thread?

[DarkSpider88]

Want and willing to pay for.

[JeffZero]

Most of us are more than willing to shell out the dough, so yeah.

[Bioras]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Want and willing to pay for.

Same here.

[daigakuinsei]

I'd pay for a better ending.

[Leafs43]

Ummm, yes I do.

I paid $70 for ME3 including day 1 DLC that I didn't gripe about. I expect it to have an understandable ending like the previous 2 installments.

[savionen]

I'd pay for it.

The mindset I see is more of "If there's not a DLC, Bioware is going to lose a lot of current and future sales."

[KainrycKarr]

I'm willing to pay for it. I feel they should have done right the first time, but as it is technically additional content, I accept that I'll have to cough up additional dough.

[dkear1]

The current ending was a lie and yes I do expect it fixed for free.

[RLesueur]

I'd pay for a better ending.

[clonedoriginzero]

so basically you're willing to pay for a subpar ending. great. good to know. im sure you're just the kind of unconcerned consumer they love.

[Dridengx]

meiwow2 wrote...

What's the point of this thread?

it's an attempt to make those souls who seem they can't live their life until they get a specific ending they want to see reality. I give the poster credit for trying but I don't think anyone can help them.  People keep throwing out pecentages.. I'm about to conduct my own research and it seems thus far that a majority here have a mental disability and I mean that with the highest regard of sympathy

[BobbyTheI]

+Whatever the Child's Play drive is up to right now

The way I see it, putting money toward this charity drive serves two purposes. The more important one, of course, is that it goes to give something good to sick children.

But the secondary reason is that it shows that I, and a lot of the folks who support a new ending, have money in our pockets and are willing to put it to use in fixing this game, whether by drawing awareness with a charity drive, or paying for DLC that turns ME3 from a near-perfect game to a perfect game.

[squee365]

I don't deserve a better ending.

Shepard does.

[mupp3tz]

The thing is, I wouldn't consider it entitlement. People who are unsatisfied with a product that was marketed as something else have every right to petition, to point out mistakes, and to withhold business if they so choose. No one is holding a gun to Bioware's head -- as, they also have every right to completely ignore all of this if they so choose. And, in this case, yes, I agree... "demand" and "entitlement" is too strong a word to describe what is going on. I could see entitlement being accurately used if fans were SUING Bioware for a new ending... that would be going to far. As it stands, even though ME3 may have been the best game leading up to the ending... the fact that they perceive the (arguably) most important part of the game as botched can turn a 10 into a 1... this is subjective, and is why I don't think people are going too far by giving low votes on Metacritic & Amazon as it's their own perspective.

tl;dr -- I agree on some points but wanted to add 2 cents.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 16 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[Ryoten]

I'll pay for a better ending so i can enjoy these games again. But after that, my relationship with Bioware and EA is over with. I already canceled my TOR account.

[Mims]

We're not entitled to a free DLC by any means.

But bioware does have to eventually consider what a little good PR might do.

[Verit]

I'd pay. They have no obligation of giving us new endings for free. Not saying it would be good PR to charge us for new endings, but I would certainly understand if that's their only option.

[detroitmechworks]

Addendum: Bioware doesn't DESERVE our money anymore either. So, if they want to charge me for something I should have had in the first place, and tell me that I'm being "entitled", they can politely go and self-copulate.

[Dridengx]

clonedoriginzero wrote...

so basically you're willing to pay for a subpar ending. great. good to know. im sure you're just the kind of unconcerned consumer they love.

he already paid as did all of you I imagine. You got what you got. crying about what you were given is stupid. Do you cry when life isn't fair as well? only the strong survive.. apparently the lot of you are making threads how you can't sleep, eat, work, study for homework and quiting gaming all together lol

[abch4]

What happened to the customer is always right?

Modifié par hallidio, 16 mars 2012 - 02:04 .