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[Ricinator]

 well?

[Volus Warlord]

He resigned.

I dunno. Udina is a better councilor. >

[eternalnightmare13]

Cause there's a ****ing war.

[The Razman]

Wasn't there some kind of explanation of this in Mass Effect 2? I can't remember ...

[BuffPhantoms]

They are racist

[CompositeGNR]

in the book retribution he resigns as councilor/aide to councilor

[WhatsSarcasm]

I heard it's because there's a galactic war or something.

[Hydralisk]

Read the codex.

He resigned.

I was also confused until I read it.

[BigBad]

It's not actually explained in the games, except maybe through the ME3 Codex entries on Anderson and Udina, but if you choose Anderson, he resigns not long after you meet him in ME2, leaving Udina to inherit the position as the only other qualified candidate. Like many of the better class of Mass Effect characters, he hates politics-as-usual.

[Legion64]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Udina is a better councilor. >

Not sure about that.

[Jestina]

Because your choices don't matter...and they were too lazy to even write up a line for Shep to ask about it.

[Nashiktal]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Cause there's a ****ing war.

That was the whole reason for putting him on the council in the first place. The prepare the galaxy, in whatever manner, for the impending reapers. Even if the other races don't believe it.

You know shore up defenses, prepare supply cache's, increase military spending, harden communications, etc.

Udina does none of this, and as he proves in ME3 he is a terrible counciler, and his "great diplomacy" proves to be hot air.

I'm angry at anderson for betraying shep and all he worked for, and i'm angry at udina for other spoilery reasons that don't involve a big event near the end of the game.

[GreenDragon37]

Well, for lore reasons. But really it's this: If you picked Anderson, your choice was (technically) retconned because the plot demanded it.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 16 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[Palidane]

Or maybe the career soldier got tired of playing politics? Lol just kidding. Shepard is a God, every single decision he makes must be completely permanent, especially if it's about other people.

[vrumpt]

Anderson resigns his position during the book Mass Effect: Retribution. Its vaguely stated in the book which position he had to account for player choice, something along the lines of "I resigned from politics".

[GreenDragon37]

Palidane wrote...

Or maybe the career soldier got tired of playing politics? Lol just kidding. Shepard is a God, every single decision he makes must be completely permanent, especially if it's about other people.

Exactly, the plot demanded it.

[Reign762]

Because in the end ME3 actually had a theme of Choice doesn't matter. Take a look back and every one of your choices from ME1 and 2 and look how they translated into 3. Then take every choice in 1 and 2 you didn't make and look how they translated into 3. The exact same linear story path.

Modifié par Reign762, 16 mars 2012 - 02:14 .

[Mims]

I'm surprised how little they touched upon the novel events. I thought they'd at least throw in a one liner about leaving the council. Or who Grayson was. Or elaborate on Udina's motivations.

[AlphaDormante]

He's always stated that he hates the political bull that comes with the job...and in ME2 it seems pretty clear (at least to me) that he doesn't exactly have the political chops to deal with the rest of the Councilors. He probably pulled out thinking he could better serve somewhere else...maybe even to watch Shepard's impounded ass.

Anyway, I'm still glad I chose him. Nobody can blame me for the giant mess Udina made in ME3.

[Nashiktal]

AlphaDormante wrote...

He's always stated that he hates the political bull that comes with the job...and in ME2 it seems pretty clear (at least to me) that he doesn't exactly have the political chops to deal with the rest of the Councilors. He probably pulled out thinking he could better serve somewhere else...maybe even to watch Shepard's impounded ass.

Anyway, I'm still glad I chose him. Nobody can blame me for the giant mess Udina made in ME3.

I can, and will blame him. It didn't matter if he had trouble dealing with the other races, that wasn't the point of his job. His job was to hold out, do what he could to prepare, and when the reapers came put all his precautions into action.

What does he do instead? He quits cause he found a blonde chick to go run away with hunting for a single reaper infested human. Doing so he attacks cerberus (which up until recently was the only thing fighting the reapers), illegally uses the turians to help him (weakening the alliance in the process) and gets himself a girlfriend.

And what do we get for it? Udina takes over the council, and does exactly jack squat to prepare for the reapers, spending the entire time "advancing" human interests (which ironically meant little cause of the reapers) and ends up doing more damage than good.

Yeah, thanks anderson. Thanks for being just one step in showing that our choices didn't matter (aside from some admittedly nice minor character deatails) and for betraying shepard and all he fought for.

[AlphaDormante]

Nashiktal wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

He's always stated that he hates the political bull that comes with the job...and in ME2 it seems pretty clear (at least to me) that he doesn't exactly have the political chops to deal with the rest of the Councilors. He probably pulled out thinking he could better serve somewhere else...maybe even to watch Shepard's impounded ass.

Anyway, I'm still glad I chose him. Nobody can blame me for the giant mess Udina made in ME3.

I can, and will blame him. It didn't matter if he had trouble dealing with the other races, that wasn't the point of his job. His job was to hold out, do what he could to prepare, and when the reapers came put all his precautions into action.

What does he do instead? He quits cause he found a blonde chick to go run away with hunting for a single reaper infested human. Doing so he attacks cerberus (which up until recently was the only thing fighting the reapers), illegally uses the turians to help him (weakening the alliance in the process) and gets himself a girlfriend.

And what do we get for it? Udina takes over the council, and does exactly jack squat to prepare for the reapers, spending the entire time "advancing" human interests (which ironically meant little cause of the reapers) and ends up doing more damage than good.

Yeah, thanks anderson. Thanks for being just one step in showing that our choices didn't matter (aside from some admittedly nice minor character deatails) and for betraying shepard and all he fought for.

I said nobody can blame me for Udina's crapfest I picked Anderson, so nobody can give me crap about Udina's mess.

Anyway, I can't believe Udina is seriously the best we had to offer after Anderson. Like...for real? I'd choose Conrad Verner for Councilor before recommending that idiot.

[Trobon18]

Legion64 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Udina is a better councilor. >

Not sure about that.

Well he tries to screw Shepard over like the Councilors normally do.

[vx SmOkEy xv]

You are given the illusion of control.

[gmboy902]

Because Udina has to be the one to conspire to kill the Council.

Unless you want to have to shoot Anderson.

Let's face it, what kind of heart-to-heart on the Citadel are you going to have with Udina?

[Orthodox Infidel]

Volus Warlord wrote...
I dunno. Udina is a better councilor. target practice backstop:D

Fixed it for you.