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[Templar_Blademaster]

 So I am compiling a list of video games that can be taken philosophically, or have a lot of philosophical themes and ideas. Due to this possibly being an objective view, there are no wrong answers (just be prepared to give a good defense). I want a list of games to play through this summer, and this is one way I'm compiling it.

Current list:
-Planescape: Torment
-Legacy of Kain
-Gemini Rue (still playing through it and looking at it from different angles)
-Braid
-Megami Tensei series

Any others people would like to add?

[Morroian]

The recent Dear Esther

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

how about Kotor 2? it did call into question the nature of the force and the Jedi and the Sith.

[bmwcrazy]

Deus Ex.

[Jozape]

Ultima 4: Quest of the Avatar is pretty much entirely a personal, philosophical adventure. Beware of graphics and journal keeping though. Planescape: Torment is on your list and that's another one fantastic one. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is philosophical too, even if it has what appears to be a mostly generic plot. Of the three I'd say it's the easiest and shortest, so it might be the place to start.

Other than that, I really didn't like Dear Esther. I think it was too vague for any person to reasonably understand it and was quite frankly confused as to why it was interactive at all. You don't play a character or do anything 'game mechanically', all you do is glue your finger to the w key unless you want to stop and look at something and listen to some internal monologue. It's cheap and short though, so might be worth your try.

[RPGamer13]

Metal Gear series

[Homebound]

Earthbound and Mother 3.

[eroeru]

Philosophy as such is a rare thing in games. You might try something Japanese - like Shadow of the Colossus. They usually give off, if not philosophy, then at least a strong sense of "meta" and allegory. Usually, it's just plain good writing.

Also, one cannot possibly go wrong with The Longest Journey.

Though if Dear Esther is already here as a rec, I'd also recommend all Tale of Tales games. One is based on Oscar Wilde, another on a re-interpretation on Little Red Riding Hood. In a third one you face death. But you get to die only in the full version of the game.

Modifié par eroeru, 16 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[eroeru]

Also, I found The Witcher to be (even if in reference and slightly) philosophical...

[Cyberarmy]

Mass Effect 3 ...

[Chromie]

Jozape wrote...
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is philosophical too, even if it has what appears to be a mostly generic plot. Of the three I'd say it's the easiest and shortest, so it might be the place to start.

I'd say Kotor 2 at least is more deep. Especially with the wound in the force story and how it affects an entire galaxy. There is a lot more going on in Kotor 2 then Kotor 1. 

[TheGunslinger]

Metal Gear Series for sure.

[Skypezee]

Deus Ex series
Persona series
Xenosaga series
Ultima (especially Ultima 4)
Fallout: New Vegas has some surprisingly philosophical tendencies, especially with the DLC
Silent Hill series dealt mostly with psychology

[slimgrin]

Deus Ex: HR. TW1, more so than TW2.

That's all I can list that I've played.

[RedArmyShogun]

Any Warhammer Game. For these are the teachings of our one true lord, king, god. The God Emperor of Man. Only by killing the Xeno, the Heritic, and the Mutant can we be free and chaos crushed.

Remember, it is better to die for the Emperor than to live for yourself. And this is coming from the Keeper of Secrets the Bear of Woe, given speach and the ability to type from the Leader of the Imperium of Man.

[Templar_Blademaster]

Most of these I have played
Dear Esther I actually have been through both the mod and the remake, and enjoy going through on random days.

The Witcher I've played, but I found it to be more political than philosophical.
Persona is apart of the Megami Tensei series. I've played Persona 1, 3, and 4. I'm gonna get 2 soon-ish.
Played Kotor 1 and 2.
Playing through the Ultimas. Beat 1 relatively easily, and am on 2.
Played all the Metal Gears minus Peace Walker and Rising.
Played Earthbound, and let me tell you that game is a freaking trip. I actually had a friend who tried to defend it as light hearted and comical. Turns out he had not played past Four Square. Gonna need to get a translation for Mother 3, any good ones?
Played all Deus Ex games, and I found 1 to be a better game story wise.

Actually, I've played most of the games on my list. Gimme a sec, gonna compile a list of games to add on to my list.

-Ultima (specifically 4, though the 2nd trilogy in general was amazing)
-Kotor 2 (Have not played it in forever, but still an amazing game)
-Earthbound
-Longest Journey (been meaning to get around to that)

I would add The Witcher series, but I play through those games and read the books enough as it is. I almost know the lore inside and out.

[RPGamer13]

Rising isn't out yet and Peace Walker is a huge mind trip, I highly recommend it.

The Metal Gear Solid HD collection is the same price Peace Walker was on the PSP when it first released and it also includes the actual Kojima made Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 if you never got to play them.

[eroeru]

A piece of idealism in The Witcher...

"The biggest Evil is moral relativity."

I haven't met this idea for a long time (as in formed in a sentence) - it's an unpopular one nowadays. But I sort of felt it in the game, throughout the story and presentation, as seriously-taken.

Besides, political philosophy is also philosophy.

That said, it really wasn't philosophical as such. But there are ones that really aim towards artistic expression combined with metaphors and insights, such as Tale of Tales games.

I also tried to google Shadow of the Colossus philosophy, but there really wasn't anything - so yeah, it's more about artistic vision I guess (though I did find an interesting article: http://rustbeltphilo...f-colossus.html).

Modifié par eroeru, 18 mars 2012 - 01:34 .

[naughty99]

Every Day The Same Dream

[eroeru]

naughty99 wrote...

Every Day The Same Dream

That's an interesting one!

[R660]

I Am Alive came out this month, having played through it, I'm a bit disappointed by it's ending, but it's gameplay is fantastic and the pure atmosphere it gives and the morals and ideals it portrays makes it an amazing game. Definitely one you should check out for 1200 MS.

There is also Alan Wake: American Nightmare that has the old Light versus Dark fight see oh so often but for pure storyline value, it's worthless... I wouldn't really recommend it.

Modifié par R660, 19 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[Some Geth]

999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors is a game that has some interesting philosophy to it when it comes to the morality of the characters and the story theme. Even if the game is more of a mystery and science theory story than a philosophy story.

Still the sequel to the game should be more of a philosophy story what with them having the characters in a life or death sort of prisoner's dilemma thing ( 
http://en.wikipedia....soner's_dilemma for you who don't know what that is) and the name of said sequel is "Good People Die" in Japan and "Virtue's Last Reward" in the west.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 mars 2012 - 06:05 .

[ObserverStatus]

 Pokèmon Red/Blue This is why.

Modifié par bobobo878, 19 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[Volus Warlord]

Tropico 3.