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bobobo878 wrote...

 Pokèmon Red/Blue This is why.

Naw bro Pokémon Black and White have more of a philosophy story to them than Red and Blue.=]

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Metal Gear. Hellz yeah to that. It truly goes into what it means to be a soldier.

I'd also recommend FFXIII. There's oodles of great themes in there. Friendship. Family. Betrayal. Revenge. Beautiful story really.

Assassin's Creed is a good series too. Altair always questions the Creed, and it is explained as to how both the Assassins, and the Templars are wrong in their actions, but without the assassins, there would only be control, so it underlines using the lesser of two evils for the greater good.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Metal Gear. Hellz yeah to that. It truly goes into what it means to be a soldier.

I'd also recommend FFXIII. There's oodles of great themes in there. Friendship. Family. Betrayal. Revenge. Beautiful story really.

Assassin's Creed is a good series too. Altair always questions the Creed, and it is explained as to how both the Assassins, and the Templars are wrong in their actions, but without the assassins, there would only be control, so it underlines using the lesser of two evils for the greater good.

If it had to be any FF why not VI or IX? hell even VII and VIII are better at it than XIII.:mellow:

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Some Geth wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Metal Gear. Hellz yeah to that. It truly goes into what it means to be a soldier.

I'd also recommend FFXIII. There's oodles of great themes in there. Friendship. Family. Betrayal. Revenge. Beautiful story really.

Assassin's Creed is a good series too. Altair always questions the Creed, and it is explained as to how both the Assassins, and the Templars are wrong in their actions, but without the assassins, there would only be control, so it underlines using the lesser of two evils for the greater good.

If it had to be any FF why not VI or IX? hell even VII and VIII are better at it than XIII.:mellow:


Because every Final Fantasy other than XIII is terrible. I seriously hate the FF series with a passion. Posted Image
XIII is the only one I've ever cared about.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Metal Gear. Hellz yeah to that. It truly goes into what it means to be a soldier.

I'd also recommend FFXIII. There's oodles of great themes in there. Friendship. Family. Betrayal. Revenge. Beautiful story really.

Assassin's Creed is a good series too. Altair always questions the Creed, and it is explained as to how both the Assassins, and the Templars are wrong in their actions, but without the assassins, there would only be control, so it underlines using the lesser of two evils for the greater good.

If it had to be any FF why not VI or IX? hell even VII and VIII are better at it than XIII.:mellow:


Because every Final Fantasy other than XIII is terrible. I seriously hate the FF series with a passion. Posted Image
XIII is the only one I've ever cared about.

You have my pity for what it's worth.

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^^ Hahaha. :happy:

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Kinda surprised at the lack of Bioshock, System shock and even Half-Life had some moments that really asked serious questions about what it is to be human and how we came to be here.

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The original Deus Ex, the existance and purpose of god and whether a machine or global AI could fill his role, hence the name Deus Ex which was shortened from Deus Ex Machina which means God from a Machine.

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Oooh shiny wrote...

Kinda surprised at the lack of Bioshock, System shock and even Half-Life had some moments that really asked serious questions about what it is to be human and how we came to be here.


I would have said it, but I've played it enough times where I just am pretty sick of it. BioShock and System Shock 2 are one of my favs, BioShock especially for exploring the Objectivist Society. I didn't like BioShock 2 as much for just trying to be a polar opposite to 1, but I appreciate the few things that it did do.

That being said, Witcher series, despite being political, did have some great philosophical moments. Zoltan in 1 and the pigs speech was a great moment that really made me appreciate the series as a whole.

I've heard The Path, but I haven't played it. Anyone wanna offer input on that?

God of War 3 also has an interesting last moment, unfortunately for me it is kind of ruined by the cliche "don't worry guys, he will return" thing at the end of the credits.

Final Fantasy Tactics... free will vs predestination.

Tactics Ogre and the Ogre Battle series in general has some political philosophy and moral discussion about it. Plus the alignment system is not good/neutral/evil, but rather more like order/balance/chaos.

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The Path insight.

It's a bit of an overly-ambitious project, but still worth the try - if not for anything else, then the original idea/premis behind it.

You can form an opinion out of playing it - that's the one spoiler-free reason to give you to play it. :)

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Assassin's Creed 1, definitely.

Glad to see Legacy of Kain is already on the list.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 21 mars 2012 - 04:05 .


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BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Assassin's Creed 1, definitely.

Glad to see Legacy of Kain is already on the list.


Legacy of Kain is always obligatory, and yeah, I would agree AC1, but it is so damn repetitive and not varied enough I feel it is a chore to sit through it. Not saying LoK is any better, but at least the story in that makes it bearable to go through block puzzles of Soul Reaver and the loading screens of Blood Omen.

I'm also currently playing through Chaos Rings (wanna work up to 2 eventually), and while not as big, there may be something philosophical in there. I know 2 has deeper themes, and sounds like it tackles utilitarianism.

One of my friends also suggested Binding of Isaac could be taken philosophically, or at least spiritually. They basically took the Nietzche quote on the abyss and said BoI captures that idea perfectly. In your descent deeper into the basement to escape, you slowly start losing your humanity physically and mentally as you, over the course of several powerups, become something less than what you were at the games start. Never looked at it that way, thoughts?

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People might laugh at this but. Portal 1 and 2 to an extent.

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This and this. *SPOILER ALERT*

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

People might laugh at this but. Portal 1 and 2 to an extent.


Cake is a lie mate, a freaking lie ...

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Deus Ex:HR(what it means to be human)
Jade Empire(Should we play god or let nature go it's way
The Mass Effect Series minus the ending
Portal 2(sounds funny but GLaDOS final speech kinda makes it valid :P)

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For political philosophy- Fallout New Vegas.
Each major faction represents a different world view and its up to you to decide where to go.

Actually the whole theme of the game is how obsession and greed are very bad things.
Obsessing over the past clouds your future.
Obsessing on just the future clouds your surroundings.

When Dead Money says: "Begin again" and "Let Go" its the game telling you that not letting things go, and trying to focus on your past gives you no future.

That is at least what I took from the game.

Also Bioshock is just rife with this stuff.

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Metal Gear Solid - MGS 2 (Genes, Passing on to NG, social engineering, political conspiracies) takes a big approach on philosophical views. Hell, all of the games do, but MGS2 is probably at the top of them all.

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Sonic The Hedgehog 2: Environmentalism vs. Industrialism

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anything with Kreia in it

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The Bioshock series, objectivism.

Modifié par NovinhaShepard, 21 mars 2012 - 04:46 .


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NovinhaShepard wrote...

The Bioshock series, objectivism.

Objectivism barely qualifies as "philosophy" at all.

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TheChris92 wrote...

Metal Gear Solid - MGS 2 (Genes, Passing on to NG, social engineering, political conspiracies) takes a big approach on philosophical views. Hell, all of the games do, but MGS2 is probably at the top of them all.


^This B)

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I dont think there are any video games that are, as such, philosophical. It just so happens that it is almost impossible to have a good story without touching upos such stuff, and therefore every good game has some philosophical aspects to it.

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daqs wrote...

NovinhaShepard wrote...

The Bioshock series, objectivism.

Objectivism barely qualifies as "philosophy" at all.


Because anything not vintage philosophy from the nineteenth century or prior, doesn't count as 'real' philosophy, right?

The rudeness on these forums shouldn't continually shock me, but here it happens again.