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Ricvenart

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So Super secret ending, nothing more then an easter egg and not story related? Extremely rewarding...

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Ricvenart wrote...

So Super secret ending, nothing more then an easter egg and not story related? Extremely rewarding...


Ayup

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L33tBadMofo

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Walrusninja wrote...

Nah web, literally go to Google and look up "Winter sky" .. tadaa! Image number 1


Thats just complete and total horsesh*t on Bioware's end. "Hey let's use a Google image as the final shot for our game along with a Buzz Aldrin voiceover, tehe they'll never second guess all the crap we just force-fed them with something as pretty as this!!!" *chuggs the Cyanide-flavored Kool aid in the Bioware break room*

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 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...

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Xandurpein wrote...

 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...


Personally I think you have your minorities and majorities mixed up. Vote in the poll in my sig, 81% currently believe in the indoctrination theory but need higher voting numbers.

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Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!

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Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!


Because then people would still complain.

"I WANT A REFUND!!!!! THAT PERSON'S GAME WAS BETTER THAN MINE! >=(!!!!!!!!!!"

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GBGriffin

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Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!


I'm glad I paid $80 to use my imagination 8)



Wait, what? o_O

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Xaijin

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KorPhaeron wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

 then why are you in a spoilers forum?

https://twitter.com/#!/jessicamerizan


I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

As one who despises the endings, I'm hoping the suits tell the visionaries that the customers are loud enough and numerous enough to swollow their pride and get them out of this storm. For those that love them, I readily accept your position and respectfully disagree.

Why waste my time ?


EA is extremely unlikely to pay for new endings. They rather likely don't care, and PR is handled by a separate group on the pub side anyway, which is where you get stuff legitimate disconnect and stuff like IGN and continual media reporting that detractors are a "small but vocal minority". The amount of money EA would have shell out for new endings isn't very likely going to happen unless someone takes a bath.

"Addressing concerns" and "clarifying to alleviate confusion" are classic power words used by PR to deflect the fact that nothing is being financially considered, and that's the real issue. Who pays for new endings?

Modifié par Xaijin, 16 mars 2012 - 06:05 .


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L33tBadMofo

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Malanek999 wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...


Personally I think you have your minorities and majorities mixed up. Vote in the poll in my sig, 81% currently believe in the indoctrination theory but need higher voting numbers.


The only way I (and by the poll in your sig, the other 81% of ME fans who voted) can make sense of this clusterf*ck of an ending is by believeing the Indoctrination theory, I forgot which thread had the youtube video that has the codex entry and reaper voice overs playing over the last few minutes, and it clicked together so perfectly. And Jessica's tweets are *somewhat* helping to support this theory.

Then again, I could just be grasping at nothing here, clinging to my fanboy ways and hoping this was all a big joke on us. But i REALLY hope thats not the case.

Modifié par L33tBadMofo, 16 mars 2012 - 06:26 .


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L33tBadMofo wrote...
Then again, I could just be grasping at nothing here, clinging to my fanboy ways and hoping this was all a big joke on us. But i REALLY hope thats not the case.

Yep. You can't be sure until we get something official either way. But there are so many clues out there I just can't ignore them.

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I'd love to be wrong, but I keep seeing responses that are basically saying that it's all different if you use your imagination or that we're just focusing on the wrong things.

Sorry, but when there are videos showing the scenes playing out side by side and they show that the bulk of the finale is recycled, I have a hard time using my imagination. They obviously couldn't use theirs enough to make the endings at least look different. Honestly, that's not fair. Let's just call that what it was, a way to save money.

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GBGriffin wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!


I'm glad I paid $80 to use my imagination 8)



Wait, what? o_O


If you want to get technical about it, I would value my imagination at much higher than $80.  :P

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Malanek999 wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...


Personally I think you have your minorities and majorities mixed up. Vote in the poll in my sig, 81% currently believe in the indoctrination theory but need higher voting numbers.


Just so you know, the poll in  your link really makes no sense. Am I voting for whether I WANT there to be more content or whether I think it's open for more content or NEEDS new content or am I voting saying I'm happy with the endings or that I think that's all they will give us?

Because I think that's all they will give us and they'll argue it's complete (just like they argued the fanbase was at fault for not like DA 2), but it NEEDS more. 

I wouldn't know what button to hit on your poll. 

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UnbornLeviathan

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Malanek999 wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...


Personally I think you have your minorities and majorities mixed up. Vote in the poll in my sig, 81% currently believe in the indoctrination theory but need higher voting numbers.


Are you...asking people to vote the way you want them to instead of the way they want to?

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Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?


In my case and many others they did.

Origin download...

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I've never heard of Jessica Merizan till now, how is it a community manager is less in the public eye than the director of marketing David Silverman?

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Phaedros wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?


In my case and many others they did.

Origin download...


For the last time... your data is on the disc, Origin displays how fast your DVD drive is copying files from the DVD to the hard drive. That's why it appears as if you are downloading the game. The only thing you're downloading is the day 1 patch and the DLC. 

The same thing happened with BF3 and other games that require Origin.

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Xandurpein wrote...

 It appears that the fans are now divided between a minority that velieves that the end is just a bad dream and a majority who wish it's all a bad dream...


Some people are OK with the ending too. They tend to get shot down and ignored a lot, but there's a few of us. Ending wasn't perfect but the so-called indoctrination theory is a bazillion times worse!

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GBGriffin wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!


I'm glad I paid $80 to use my imagination 8)



Wait, what? o_O


See now if you paid another 20 bucks they would have thrown in a sketch pad. :devil:

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Szaiu wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

Why didn't Bioware just sell empty cd's?

We could make the whole game up for ourselves!


I'm glad I paid $80 to use my imagination 8)



Wait, what? o_O


See now if you paid another 20 bucks they would have thrown in a sketch pad. :devil:


I demand my Mass Effect Etcha-Sketch that should have come with my CE.....

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ebevan91 wrote...

For the last time... your data is on the disc, Origin displays how fast your DVD drive is copying files from the DVD to the hard drive. That's why it appears as if you are downloading the game. The only thing you're downloading is the day 1 patch and the DLC. 

The same thing happened with BF3 and other games that require Origin.


You do know that you can buy the game through digital download, right ?

I had no CD inserted when I did my digital download. I don't beleive Origin displayed the process of oxygen molecules copying data on my HD...

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CRISIS1717 wrote...
I've never heard of Jessica Merizan till now, how is it a community manager is less in the public eye than the director of marketing David Silverman?

That's EA for you. ;)
They don't care about community, they care about money.

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I always thought (according to what I learned in classes) that community managers handled stuff on the forums not just twitter and facebook. EA's probably got a gag order on everyone...or the company is just so backwards they have no clue.

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KaeserZen wrote...

ebevan91 wrote...

For the last time... your data is on the disc, Origin displays how fast your DVD drive is copying files from the DVD to the hard drive. That's why it appears as if you are downloading the game. The only thing you're downloading is the day 1 patch and the DLC. 

The same thing happened with BF3 and other games that require Origin.


You do know that you can buy the game through digital download, right ?

I had no CD inserted when I did my digital download. I don't beleive Origin displayed the process of oxygen molecules copying data on my HD...


Yes (I have the digital download), but some people are saying that even if you have the CD, you still have to download most of the game, which isn't true.