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[Dybia]

UnbornLeviathan wrote...

  "It totally didn't end the same for everyone. Similar cut scenes do not equal same endings."

https://twitter.com/...493962228928512 

**** it, I'm out.

Yeah, I didn't pay $60 for them to tell me, "Ok here's the first 80%. Now you finish the rest with your-"

[LancerGirl]

@JessicaMerizan @Dr_Endless My red would't work, it included "Most of the technology you rely on" which would heavily affect Tali.
@Asukuuru @Dr_Endless Unless that wasn't truthful? All anthropologists know that progress is not unilateral. Screw Sovereign's ME1 speech.

DA FUQ?

She best not just be giving the run around, here

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Again guys, she's not hinting coyly at dlc. She's trying to say that "Every interpretation of the endings is valid." "If you want to save the Normandy crew then save them!" In your imagination not in the actual game.

[dreaming_raithe]

DasGota wrote...

I can't help but get the feeling that her tweets aren't so much a "hint-hint-nudge-nudge it might not be over yet!" so much as a "Hey! The endings aren't so bad if you just make up what happens after in your mind, right?"

Like the "Well then pick red and go rescue her!" tweet. I don't think that was saying "I'm secretly trying to tell you that DLC is coming!" so much as "Shepard is alive which means he could go save her in the future if you wanted!"

I could be completely wrong. In fact, I would love to be. At the moment though, I just lack faith they have something amazing planned.

That's about how I take it too. I don't think she's actually at liberty to discuss any plans Bioware has at the moment, so she's just trying to mollify outrage.

[Qutayba]

To be honest, how can they plan anything when they have to spend all their time and energy writing upbeat tweets in response to the Twitter bombs?

[daigakuinsei]

She's been indoctrinated!

[Savber100]

UnbornLeviathan wrote...

  "It totally didn't end the same for everyone. Similar cut scenes do not equal same endings."

https://twitter.com/...493962228928512 

**** it, I'm out.

She has a point. Visually it;s pretty much the same but the endings themselves are still different. 

Good idea. VERY POOR execution. 

It makes sense guys... Did we lose all reading comprehension after this fiasco? 

[Suntr0]

"@ReanKnopke @NicolaiAntonov uh they did not go through a Mass Relay - the one in the sol system is WAY too far away!"

Okay so that means he wasn't a coward and a new question has arisen.

[LancerGirl]

UnbornLeviathan wrote...

  "It totally didn't end the same for everyone. Similar cut scenes do not equal same endings."

https://twitter.com/...493962228928512 

**** it, I'm out.

Ugh... seriously...
Just bide your time Bioware, just bide your time...

[xeNNN]

there is a problem with what shes saying about the guardian being untruthful.....

you cant actually check to see if he lied or not because when complete you go back to before the Cerberus base mission.....

so that kind of invalidates that point.

i guess that's the point of the "promotes speculation" argument? but invalidates it at the same time as you cant find out....


argh endless circle of nonsensical nonsense >.< FML

Modifié par xeNNN, 16 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[Warhawk7137]

Qutayba wrote...

To be honest, how can they plan anything when they have to spend all their time and energy writing upbeat tweets in response to the Twitter bombs?

...because they employ a number of different people with substantially different job descriptions...

[G Kevin]

JasonTan87 wrote...

KorPhaeron wrote...

I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

As one who despises the endings, I'm hoping the suits tell the visionaries that the customers are loud enough and numerous enough to swollow their pride and get them out of this storm. For those that love them, I readily accept your position and respectfully disagree.

Why waste my time ?

^ This guy speaks sense.

Agreed.

Hold the line.

[sircaren]

KorPhaeron wrote...

<Big block of plagiarized text>

If you are going to continue to post his words, please at least give him credit instead of pretending they are yours.

[marshalleck]

she crazy

[Whybother]

Are you sure you are following Jessica Merizan?

[Warhawk7137]

Suntr0 wrote...

"@ReanKnopke @NicolaiAntonov uh they did not go through a Mass Relay - the one in the sol system is WAY too far away!"

Okay so that means he wasn't a coward and a new question has arisen.

That question being "so where the hell are they?"

[shadey]

I didn't think community managers made much if any decisions in regards to game content and what was created by the developers.

aren't they just there to tow the company line basically and placate consumers.

so i'm not sure why people are looking to her tweets as having any significance

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Dybia wrote...

UnbornLeviathan wrote...

  "It totally didn't end the same for everyone. Similar cut scenes do not equal same endings."

https://twitter.com/...493962228928512 

**** it, I'm out.

Yeah, I didn't pay $60 for them to tell me, "Ok here's the first 80%. Now you finish the rest with your-"

EXACTLY.

[Syrellaris]

KorPhaeron wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

 then why are you in a spoilers forum?

https://twitter.com/#!/jessicamerizan

I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

As one who despises the endings, I'm hoping the suits tell the visionaries that the customers are loud enough and numerous enough to swollow their pride and get them out of this storm. For those that love them, I readily accept your position and respectfully disagree.

Why waste my time ?

Or you are just trying to create chaos like everyone else is that does not like the endings. As there are plenty of us that do like the endings and believe they make perfect sense. Which they do. Your choices during the three games are reflected back at you and you weigh them down in your final solution.

If you had payed serious attention to the story and delved in deep, like I hope many people did, then you would have known why this ending makes sense.

Here let me break it down for you.

1) Synthetic life gets created by organics to serve them and make there lifes happier. When this goes awry, the synthetic life forms manage to gain some sort of VI intelligence and become a swarm. This swarm gets tired of being slaves and rebels.

You see this with the quarions and the Geth. Legion even explains it to you in ME2 and ME3. He also explains why it happened and what his solution to it is. He even goes as far as applying his solution or trying to at least. This one of your major plot choices. Effect is shown inmediatly.

2) The fallen reaper even explains it in detail, though cryptic. You (as shepard) do not understand the complexity of the issue and why they are doing it. YOu get this explained later on in the citadel by the catalyst.

He explains it very carefully that synthetics will in the end, always rebel against the ones that made them and do to there superiority, will win the war against the organic life forms.

The solution to this was creating a hybrid. This is what the reapers are. They are organic / synthetic hybrids. As he explains you are partially synthetic. A cyborg if you will.

3) The three choices are exactly that. The destruction option resets the cycle. Organics stay alive and all synthetic life forms die out. It is now up to the organic lifeforms to ensure that future generations will not make the mistake of creating synthetic life. Which they will and the cycle repeats.

The Control option is a balanced solution. You gain control of the reapers and thus can keep them away from organic life for good. The decided outcome is simple. If you united the Geth and Quarians. They are your proof they can live together. but for how long? Are they up for it?

the Neutral option or..Synthesize is an option you take when you believe organic and synthetic can life together with forced materials. fusing Synthetic and organic DNA. A new life string as the cataclyst explained it. You are the living proof of how that works out.

If you payed attention to the storyline, you know Cerberus revived you using Reaper tech. Hence why you are classified by the catalyst as partially Synthetic. Why? The videolog showed it. the doctors purely said that with everything they had there disposal they cannot revive you as you are clinically brain dead. Yet Lawson found a way.

[Hanabii]

WARNING!

The Staff is NOT allowed to say anything concrete at this point until a solid plan is in motion. And even then they can't reveal too much due to internal company non disclosure agreements.

If she said "We are working on something to deal with the ending." Before they were then she would be lying or leaking. Both of which equal her getting fired. So don't go asking people to do things that will cost them their jobs.

[The Angry One]

How should I put this....

THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF TIMES I COULD BANG MY HEAD AGAINST THE TABLE THAT WOULD RESULT IN ME IMAGINING ANY KIND OF ENDING DIFFERENT FROM THE SINGLE BLEAK, TRI-COLOURED NON ENDING WE GOT. EVER.

[Duskfire]

Warhawk7137 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

NO, this proves ending DLC is on the way. This was their plan and let me tell you if Bioware pulls this off they've perhaps made the best plot twist ever.

The best moves are always the ones that screw with your fanbase, annoying them to the point of insane rage instead of just including the ending in the game.

You're right in that it would be hard to pull off, and it would be a big risk.  But there is, nonetheless, the opportunity (whether or not they decide to take it) to pull off something pretty epic.

Serious?

Yes the ending sucks, yes I wish there was something different. But if Bioware does release paid dlc that has a proper ending, do you know what that tells eveyr other developer out there? "Hey if Bioware can do it, we can." And then we'll start seeing eveyr game with crappy random endings only to be promised the real one is around the corner. You just have to pay an extra ten bucks for it.

I want a new ending as much as the netx guy, but paying for it is a massive joke that causes so much of a precedence its not funny. DLC is already a problem, it'll become an even bigger one.

[Warhawk7137]

Well, anyway, she just linked directly to the hallucination thread.

[Walrusninja]

O'rly?