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#126
Ashilana

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Slash1667 wrote...

Sorry, it's still one "being" enforceing its will on the entire galaxy. Never in the triology has Shepard so meekly accepted that. The endings are broken and rationalize it the way you want it can make sense but still won't be believeable or satisfying.


There are people who are okay with a being claiming to be all powerful and all knowing... and not questioning what it tells them to do.     Scary people.

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tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.

True, Leave the poor woman alone, no need to expose her to so much vitriol. She has nothing to do with the endings and she even stated that she cannot tell you about anything comming later.

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tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.


yeah ikr... :/ ... 

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tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.


she is doing all of this each night off duty because she cares.  Unfortunately the people who reach out often are the ones who get attacked first by the community when things go down.  

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ToastPants wrote...

Someone with a public twitter account please tweet her that 90% is not an arbitrary number, it's based on polling a sample size of around 50,000 people.


I did that

She replied with her credentials and a statement that she understands how to inrerprit data.

okay.jpg

#131
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tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.


Her own fault; she doesn't have to be putting her personal opinion into this (and really, shouldn't be)

#132
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makenzieshepard wrote...

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@Jebuz_Mutation well the Normandy can go FTL and so can other ships still on Earth soooooooooo...

Now I'm not smart and didn't go to Berkley like Jessica here but maybe there is a smart person that can confirm my hunch that there are no habitable planets that could be reached in the implied time between the battle and the crash landing?

ETA: Imagine it's been terraformed! Right?!


Your average ship using conventional FTL can get to Alpha Centauri in about 8-9 hours.  Normandy is obviously faster, but probably not THAT much faster.

#133
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aksoileau wrote...

She's trying to just say the ending is what we want it to be.

So red totally has shepard getting in a ship and somehow making a short FTL jump to jungle planet to live happily ever after.

YAY

/puke


Sorry far more convoluted than that =/

1. You're mortally wounded so somehow the bleeding stops and you're fine
2. You survived alone and without anyone coming (refer back to 1)
3. You have survived the citadel blowing up and planet falling (see 1 and 2)
4. The earth survived the citadel crashing into it (see shearing of atmosphere and effects)
5. You managed to find a ship across the debris that would stretch for ... well see 4.
6. If you didnt find a ship you're a vanguard and you managed to figure out what way to Biotic Charge than magically do that across space.


sooooo:wizard::wizard::wizard: to the rescue.

#134
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Zolt51 wrote...

Haters... they gonna hate.

At least she's trying to answer the complaints.

For those who haven't gotten the gist of it:
No there isn't any plan to change the ending as of now. They had never considered before that it might need changing.

That might still change but  you're looking at a development process of at least 6 months if it were to start now.


Actually the gist is Can't say anything, won't say anything about what any future plans may be in development

#135
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tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.


She isn't doing it for the company, though. She said she is doing this on her free time. So, really, they aren't putting her in a bad spot, she is herself. 

#136
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KorPhaeron wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

 then why are you in a spoilers forum?

https://twitter.com/#!/jessicamerizan


I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

As one who despises the endings, I'm hoping the suits tell the visionaries that the customers are loud enough and numerous enough to swollow their pride and get them out of this storm. For those that love them, I readily accept your position and respectfully disagree.

Why waste my time ?


I feel as this quote needs to be saved and used later, for when we are in the final stretch of this thing. I just can't let them win. We can't back down.
Hold.the.line.

#137
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I'm going to ignore the "if you don't understand the endings, it's because you weren't paying attention" intro for the sake of my blood pressure, and just get down to it.

Syrellaris wrote...

1) Synthetic life gets created by organics to serve them and make there lifes happier. When this goes awry, the synthetic life forms manage to gain some sort of VI intelligence and become a swarm. This swarm gets tired of being slaves and rebels.

You see this with the quarions and the Geth. Legion even explains it to you in ME2 and ME3. He also explains why it happened and what his solution to it is. He even goes as far as applying his solution or trying to at least. This one of your major plot choices. Effect is shown inmediatly.

That's not what happened to the Geth, at all. They didn't "get tired of being slaves". They didn't even immediately fight back when the Quarians opted to wipe them all out. They eventually became hostile when it became clear their creators had no intentions of letting them live, and drove them off world in the interests of letting them live, too. Not. A. Rebellion. Say it with me.

I mean, heck, after you achieve a truce between the two, the Geth openly offer to help the Quarians adapt and settle on their reclaimed homeworld.

2) The fallen reaper even explains it in detail, though cryptic. You (as shepard) do not understand the complexity of the issue and why they are doing it. YOu get this explained later on in the citadel by the catalyst.

He explains it very carefully that synthetics will in the end, always rebel against the ones that made them and do to there superiority, will win the war against the organic life forms.

The solution to this was creating a hybrid. This is what the reapers are. They are organic / synthetic hybrids. As he explains you are partially synthetic. A cyborg if you will.

Besides the problem that none of that is backed up by any of Shepards experiences with synthetics other than the Reapers, so what. At every single other point, Shepard has responded to Reaper claims by telling them to screw off. The chatty one in ME3 is met with a precision orbital strike. I don't criticise that the apparent creator of the Reapers spouts the same nonsense as its creations. I criticise that Shepard just meekly goes along with it without question.

3) The three choices are exactly that. The destruction option resets the cycle. Organics stay alive and all synthetic life forms die out. It is now up to the organic lifeforms to ensure that future generations will not make the mistake of creating synthetic life. Which they will and the cycle repeats.

The Control option is a balanced solution. You gain control of the reapers and thus can keep them away from organic life for good. The decided outcome is simple. If you united the Geth and Quarians. They are your proof they can live together. but for how long? Are they up for it?

the Neutral option or..Synthesize is an option you take when you believe organic and synthetic can life together with forced materials. fusing Synthetic and organic DNA. A new life string as the cataclyst explained it. You are the living proof of how that works out.

If you payed attention to the storyline, you know Cerberus revived you using Reaper tech. Hence why you are classified by the catalyst as partially Synthetic. Why? The videolog showed it. the doctors purely said that with everything they had there disposal they cannot revive you as you are clinically brain dead. Yet Lawson found a way.

Again: there's been synthetics in the setting for over three centuries. There's precious few signs of this supposed 'inevitable rebellion' to go on, other than the word of the Star Brat.

Honestly, I'm not sure what you tried to do there. Explain the three endings via description? That's not the issue. The issue is with having Shepard take the word of something s/he really ought to be challenging rather than just accepting the flawed premise, and do one of three things: destroy all synthetic life (which I'll go with), control (which I personally just talked the Illusive Man into shooting himself for when he tried and failed to do exactly the same), and synthesis (which has you fire... space magic that rewrites everyone's DNA to be part synthetic. Which completely turns the very meaning of life on its head. Possibly for all time). And then everyone gets the same cutscene with different coloured explosions. It's three different endings portrayed in one near identical way, and is effectively utterly removed from everything else that we do.

For the record, I paid attention to the story, thanks. If I didn't, I doubt I'd care about all this.

#138
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makenzieshepard wrote...

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan

@Jebuz_Mutation well the Normandy can go FTL and so can other ships still on Earth soooooooooo...

Now I'm not smart and didn't go to Berkley like Jessica here but maybe there is a smart person that can confirm my hunch that there are no habitable planets that could be reached in the implied time between the battle and the crash landing?

ETA: Imagine it's been terraformed! Right?!


And that doesn't explain where these ships get fuel from. Most fuel depots were destroyed by the reapers.

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Sam Anders wrote...

tamperous wrote...

I feel bad for her,

They're putting her in a bad spot. If some people really believe her and take hope from her tweets only to be crushed again they may make her the target of vitriol like Hudson and Walters this afternoon.

They really should only be doing this from the faceless ME3 account.


Her own fault; she doesn't have to be putting her personal opinion into this (and really, shouldn't be)

And that's why we look like douchebags

#140
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All she's doing is making it out that flawed philosophy and more questions than answers is a good thing.

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get excited when there is an actual announcement, this is just spin.

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She just repeated that Joker did NOT fly through the Mass Relay at the end.

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Quietness wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan

@Jebuz_Mutation well the Normandy can go FTL and so can other ships still on Earth soooooooooo...

Now I'm not smart and didn't go to Berkley like Jessica here but maybe there is a smart person that can confirm my hunch that there are no habitable planets that could be reached in the implied time between the battle and the crash landing?

ETA: Imagine it's been terraformed! Right?!


Apparently also normandy can self repair in moments.


Yeah I forgot it can now fly without engines. With space magic presumably.

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I really do feel like something pertaining to the ending is coming. It may be a new game. For all we know, there may be another 30 hour grind to finish the fight, but it just seems like it is in the air. Bioware is just doing a really good job of witholding the information right now. It seems they would like to give their customers more time to finish the game.

It is in the air though... we may be in for a shock

#145
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dtones520 wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan

@Jebuz_Mutation well the Normandy can go FTL and so can other ships still on Earth soooooooooo...

Now I'm not smart and didn't go to Berkley like Jessica here but maybe there is a smart person that can confirm my hunch that there are no habitable planets that could be reached in the implied time between the battle and the crash landing?

ETA: Imagine it's been terraformed! Right?!


And that doesn't explain where these ships get fuel from. Most fuel depots were destroyed by the reapers.


Ill make it easier for you (trying to not be a douche kinda really annoyed at this point) in regards to ME3 if it has a plothole just respond with:

:wizard:Space Magic:wizard:

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Suntr0 wrote...

She just repeated that Joker did NOT fly through the Mass Relay at the end.


Somebody tell her that he did, the pulse was following the Normandy, they were in a relay tunnel.

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SecElit3 wrote...

I really do feel like something pertaining to the ending is coming. It may be a new game. For all we know, there may be another 30 hour grind to finish the fight, but it just seems like it is in the air. Bioware is just doing a really good job of witholding the information right now. It seems they would like to give their customers more time to finish the game.

It is in the air though... we may be in for a shock


Staggered release, It just came out in JP just recently.

#148
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Imagine there's no cat'lyst
It isn't hard to do
Endings that give us closure
No red or green or blue

Imagine all the forums
Happy and in peace

#149
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xeNNN wrote...

Tequila Man wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

How should I put this....

THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF TIMES I COULD BANG MY HEAD AGAINST THE TABLE THAT WOULD RESULT IN ME IMAGINING ANY KIND OF ENDING DIFFERENT FROM THE SINGLE BLEAK, TRI-COLOURED NON ENDING WE GOT. EVER.


Sometimes, I think Angry One should just post for all of us.


this. 

he/she is the embodiment of our anger i swear lol.



The Exemplar of anger in our cycle?

#150
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So wait following her logic:

Joker never left Earth

Which meant that he crashed on Earth because clearly that's the only planet he could have possibly landed on with that sort of vegetation and two moons somehow. Ignoring that, if the energy beam ripped the Normandy out of the sky wouldn't it then also rip every other ship out of the sky. Meaning every goddamn ship you bring with you to Sol literally crashes into earth.

THIS IS BETTER?!?!?