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[Biotic_Warlock]

*this* thread again?

[locsphere]

Stygian1 wrote...

To be honest... it was a lil' racist.


(or whatever being prejudice against robots would be called)

Machinist? 

[locsphere]

Out of all the things I thought of the ending. I will have to agree to disagree with the original poster of this thread!

[lumen11]

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You don't know on what experience the Starkid based its decision to start the cycle.

That's the whole point.

You have every right to assume it's downright evil, in which case you say '**** you' and pick the destroy option. However, there is no way of knowing what precisely made the Starkid do what it did so there are plenty of other possible assumptions to be made and just as many ways of responding to it.

[spockjedi]

lumen11 wrote...

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You don't know on what experience the Starkid based its decision to start the cycle.

That's the whole point.

You have every right to assume it's downright evil, in which case you say '**** you' and pick the destroy option. However, there is no way of knowing what precisely made the Starkid do what it did so there are plenty of other possible assumptions to be made and just as many ways of responding to it.

I will quote from A Logical Breakdown of Why the Mass Effect 3 Ending Makes No Sense:

D) The Child states that without his intervention, synthetics would destroy
all organic life. For him to be so absolutely assured of this theory, it
must have happened at some point in the history of the galaxy. However,
if "all" organic life was extinguished at any point in time, organic
life would not presently exist. The Child's assertion is disingenuous.

[Xamufam]

Modifié par Troxa, 21 février 2013 - 06:02 .

[phillip100]

Why did you necro this thread?

Modifié par phillip100, 21 février 2013 - 05:55 .

[Zezer1]

This is the entity that created the Reapers. This is the entity that is directly responsible for the genocide of multiple sentient races over tens of thousands of years. It is his fault that Earth, Palaven, Thessia, and the Galaxy is burning

An important aspect of the story is a philosophical problem. Namely if it would be better to harvest and preserve organic life in the form of a reaper rather than let the synthetics, that the organic
species will create one day, kill all organic life once they realise they're superior.

Genocide would be killing. But they aren't killing mostly, but harvesting.



Edit: I'm sorry for necro'ing the thread. I hadn't noticed the date.

Modifié par Zezer1, 21 février 2013 - 05:59 .

[Eterna]

I remember those dark, stupid days.

[N7Gold]

I think the general idea of being forced to play along with the Catalyst's plans is to give us Mass Effect players a sense that the war against the Reapers is unwinnable.

Before ME3 was released, people like Casey Hudson told us that the Reaper war will bring a sense of hopelessness, meaning you'll get the sense that the Reapers are a powerful force, they can't be overpowered or outsmarted, that there's no means for victory in sight. The characters in the game are overwhelmed by the Reapers left and right, so it's hard for them to stay positive and keep fighting.

For us players playing the game, we instinctively know that while everything seems hopeless at the beginning and middle of the game, the heroes will prevail in the end. BioWare dropped a bombshell on us for good reasons. How can we truly feel the same feelings of hopelessness as the characters in the game? The characters feel discouraged that they can't beat the Reapers because no offensive tactic seems to work against them. For us players, the war seems hopeless to win because we know the outcomes of the Crucible is NOT pretty, unlike the game characters who have no clue what the Crucible does.

Does this mean the endings are racist and offensive? No! One day, hopefully because of the next DLC, if we play our cards right, we'll be able to find a way to defeat the Reapers without actually choosing the choices the Catalyst presents to us. If BioWare gets finished making SP and MP DLCs for ME3 and none of them give us the chance to defeat the Reapers on OUR terms, only then they have truly betrayed us then.

Modifié par N7Gold, 21 février 2013 - 06:07 .

[Chris Priestly]

Don't necro threads unless you are going to positively continue the discussion.


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