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[Aradace]

Adam-Sadface wrote...

I didn't like the ending, I am ready to discuss any accusations that I'm an idiot or that I should stay in other threads.

Questions?

QFT.  Game itself was fun as hell.  My chief complaint is the last 10 mins or so.  I was ok with the endings at first.  But now, after playing through a second time, I've come to realize exactly what everyone was actually *****ing about.  Plot holes you could drive a Bradley through and absolutely ZERO closure. 

And once again I'll state as I have in previous threads.  They can re-write the ending or give us a DLC with a "better" ending all they want.  But unless this "patch" or "DLC" is free, Im not downloading it because I refuse to pay for something that should have been sodding included with the vanilla version of the game.

Modifié par Aradace, 16 mars 2012 - 11:54 .

[minirlz]

Oh and to all the people saying the "majority" of people dis like the ending 1st of all there is no way you can no that even if you counted all the posts and all the votes in all the polls online communities are only a small number of the total people who play or use whatever the community is for so unless you've gone to every house of everyone who bought mass effect you can't no what the "majority" really wants 2nd even if the majority of people who played it disliked it who the hell gives a crap? That means absolutely nothing just because something is the majority doesn't mean its the right or the best i thought was just common knowledge? The majority use to think the earth was flat the majority use to believe in creationism the majority believed that the US should go to war in 2001 the majority of people in the world have a Nokia branded phone the majority is religious... Just because something is considered the majority doesn't mean its good or right or the beat way to go even if the majority of people liked the ending it wouldn't matter because the majority means NOTHING!!! Except maybe one time....and that is you can always be sure that the majority of people are misinformed idiots!!!

[HenchxNarf]

LeBurns wrote...

How to get a popular thread on the ME3 forum ... Say you liked the game and it's endings ... sit back with a cold one and watch the flames fly.

OP next time you want to congratulate BioWare, just send them a PM.

Maybe you should let people have their own opinions on the game instead of being sheep like you.

They have every right to post something positive, just like you have every right to be immature.

[HenchxNarf]

minirlz wrote...

Oh and to all the people saying the "majority" of people dis like the ending 1st of all there is no way you can no that even if you counted all the posts and all the votes in all the polls online communities are only a small number of the total people who play or use whatever the community is for so unless you've gone to every house of everyone who bought mass effect you can't no what the "majority" really wants 2nd even if the majority of people who played it disliked it who the hell gives a crap? That means absolutely nothing just because something is the majority doesn't mean its the right or the best i thought was just common knowledge? The majority use to think the earth was flat the majority use to believe in creationism the majority believed that the US should go to war in 2001 the majority of people in the world have a Nokia branded phone the majority is religious... Just because something is considered the majority doesn't mean its good or right or the beat way to go even if the majority of people liked the ending it wouldn't matter because the majority means NOTHING!!! Except maybe one time....and that is you can always be sure that the majority of people are misinformed idiots!!!

Don't bother. They're in a state of denial, and they can't understand that there are people outside BSN. BSN isn't even a fraction of the fandom, but to them OMG BSN IS EVERYONE!

Please.

[Phobius9]

Adam-Sadface wrote...

I didn't like the ending, I am ready to discuss any accusations that I'm an idiot or that I should stay in other threads.

Questions?

I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions

[ZaroktheImmortal]

HenchxNarf wrote...

minirlz wrote...

Oh and to all the people saying the "majority" of people dis like the ending 1st of all there is no way you can no that even if you counted all the posts and all the votes in all the polls online communities are only a small number of the total people who play or use whatever the community is for so unless you've gone to every house of everyone who bought mass effect you can't no what the "majority" really wants 2nd even if the majority of people who played it disliked it who the hell gives a crap? That means absolutely nothing just because something is the majority doesn't mean its the right or the best i thought was just common knowledge? The majority use to think the earth was flat the majority use to believe in creationism the majority believed that the US should go to war in 2001 the majority of people in the world have a Nokia branded phone the majority is religious... Just because something is considered the majority doesn't mean its good or right or the beat way to go even if the majority of people liked the ending it wouldn't matter because the majority means NOTHING!!! Except maybe one time....and that is you can always be sure that the majority of people are misinformed idiots!!!

Don't bother. They're in a state of denial, and they can't understand that there are people outside BSN. BSN isn't even a fraction of the fandom, but to them OMG BSN IS EVERYONE!

Please.

So you assume that because not everyone who plays the game is on here the rest of the people must agree with you?

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

HenchxNarf wrote...

minirlz wrote...

Oh and to all the people saying the "majority" of people dis like the ending 1st of all there is no way you can no that even if you counted all the posts and all the votes in all the polls online communities are only a small number of the total people who play or use whatever the community is for so unless you've gone to every house of everyone who bought mass effect you can't no what the "majority" really wants 2nd even if the majority of people who played it disliked it who the hell gives a crap? That means absolutely nothing just because something is the majority doesn't mean its the right or the best i thought was just common knowledge? The majority use to think the earth was flat the majority use to believe in creationism the majority believed that the US should go to war in 2001 the majority of people in the world have a Nokia branded phone the majority is religious... Just because something is considered the majority doesn't mean its good or right or the beat way to go even if the majority of people liked the ending it wouldn't matter because the majority means NOTHING!!! Except maybe one time....and that is you can always be sure that the majority of people are misinformed idiots!!!

Don't bother. They're in a state of denial, and they can't understand that there are people outside BSN. BSN isn't even a fraction of the fandom, but to them OMG BSN IS EVERYONE!

Please.

lol. Your saying that only people who post on BSN don't like the endings.. I'm sorry but if, what was it... 39 000 people out of 40 000 hate the ending well it's just the "BSN" crowd we're the only 39 000 people that hate the game everyone else who doesn't post on here likes the ending. Yeah sure

I mean come on don't be stupid.. frankly pretty much everybody I talk to, whether real friends or online friends keep telling me as they finish the game that the ending sucks and ruins everything.. I have 2 friends that like the ending and guess what, Mass Effect 3 is the only one they've played and it was the multiplayer that brought them to buy it.. Now I'm not saying this as a stereotype but so far the only people I've heard tell me in person they like the endings are my friends that aren't fans of story games and they bought it cause the coop demo was fun so they wanted to play.. they don't even understand Mass Effect or Reapers so yeah they liked the ending. They thought it was different and "cool" but to anyone who is a fan, I don't see how you can possibly be a peace with the endings.


NOW: To not derail the thread, I will congratulate BioWare when they announce something about the endings and come out with new ending DLC... otherwise, IMO, they just killed Mass Effect, and they're brand... I don't see why I should congratulate them on that.. if anything.. I feel bad.

Modifié par xlI ReFLeX lIx, 16 mars 2012 - 01:17 .

[LeBurns]

HenchxNarf wrote...

LeBurns wrote...

How to get a popular thread on the ME3 forum ... Say you liked the game and it's endings ... sit back with a cold one and watch the flames fly.

OP next time you want to congratulate BioWare, just send them a PM.

Maybe you should let people have their own opinions on the game instead of being sheep like you.

They have every right to post something positive, just like you have every right to be immature.

At least I know when I'm being trolled.  Have fun.

[Demyx_IX]

rissoles wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...  Thank you for the kind words. However, please stop fighting and insulting each otehr. This is not allowed here.  

and where is it allowed?

on pron sites 

[Farbautisonn]

AJRimmsey wrote...

35 years ago in college i wrote a paper on mob mentality and the theory of the herd mentality.

too long to post here,but it started with the "villagers and frankenstein and ended with street rioters.

-Grats? Im sure you have a point in there somewhere. I just dont see it.

btw..to change biowares stance o the endings you will need millions of people.

EVEN if they did think about extra dlc free or paid you will need MILLIONS to justify the costs.

-Not really. I need a vocal few thousands and lobby work. You see, I happen to have a background studying politics and rhetoric (amongst other things) . You would be amazed what the right rhetoric can do to whip up a frenzy. You can even pick up a history book in the local library and find out too!

Millions of what? Dollers or customers? 

Dollers? Perhaps. Im not privy to the costs of developping DLC but considering the last Ive seen from Bioware, I dont think we are near "millions". I could be wrong though, and I am sure you have plenty of empirical evidence that can refute me.

Customers? Not really. Because Im pretty sure that only the most successfull games have DLC content that gets sold in the millions per title.

Or perhaps you ment something else? 

[BuRnInICE]

DCoacci wrote...

(I already made this a part of a different post in the story forum, but I felt a need to repost it here, with hope that it would stand out a little more. Don’t worry, no spoilers here. It has nothing to do with the story, actually.)


I just want to congratulate Bioware. By seeing the Mass Effect trilogy through to its conclusion, you guys did something no one else has done. Something no one else thought possible. An epic, memorable, even controversial story spanning three huge, critically and commercially acclaimed games. And it was nearly entirely player driven. Regardless of how people feel about the ending, you guys got that sh*t done.

Thank you for allowing us to experience one of gaming's most brilliant sagas, one which all other RPGs will undoubtedly be compared to from here on out. You've raised the bar exceedingly high, and I firmly believe I speak for the majority of your fans when I say you deserve the pat on the back a select, vocal few seem unwilling to give you.

Good job.

/Agree. Beautiful work Bioware. And I understand the pressures of EA....

[Ohpus]

DCoacci wrote...

(I already made this a part of a different post in the story forum, but I felt a need to repost it here, with hope that it would stand out a little more. Don’t worry, no spoilers here. It has nothing to do with the story, actually.)


I just want to congratulate Bioware. By seeing the Mass Effect trilogy through to its conclusion, you guys did something no one else has done. Something no one else thought possible. An epic, memorable, even controversial story spanning three huge, critically and commercially acclaimed games. And it was nearly entirely player driven. Regardless of how people feel about the ending, you guys got that sh*t done.

Thank you for allowing us to experience one of gaming's most brilliant sagas, one which all other RPGs will undoubtedly be compared to from here on out. You've raised the bar exceedingly high, and I firmly believe I speak for the majority of your fans when I say you deserve the pat on the back a select, vocal few seem unwilling to give you.

Good job.

Calling it an RPG is a stretch. Its really a shooter with RPG elements tacked on. Elements that get progressively less RPG-ish as the series concludes.

They also tripped over the finish line and fell flat o their faces. Embarassing to be sure.

Apart from that i respect your right to see the glass 90% full. I just cannot agree with it.

[DOCTOR CHA0TICA]

DCoacci wrote...



I just want to congratulate Bioware. By seeing the Mass Effect trilogy through to its conclusion, you guys did something no one else has done. Something no one else thought possible. An epic, memorable, even controversial story spanning three huge, critically and commercially acclaimed games. And it was nearly entirely player driven. Regardless of how people feel about the ending, you guys got that sh*t done.

Thank you for allowing us to experience one of gaming's most brilliant sagas, one which all other RPGs will undoubtedly be compared to from here on out. You've raised the bar exceedingly high, and I firmly believe I speak for the majority of your fans when I say you deserve the pat on the back a select, vocal few seem unwilling to give you.

Good job.

I completley agree.... I love the ME games, and I feel privileged to have been apart of it.... I've been gaming for many years, and I can honestly say, no other video game series has had me hooked as much as Mass Effect!! 

I hope BW continue to make excellent games in the future, and I'll support them all the way

[Kya]

They broke their promise to the players who started with Mass Effect 1. My Shepard doesn't get a trilogy since what imported isn't my Shepard at all. So no congrats for that.

Modifié par Kya, 16 mars 2012 - 02:18 .

[FoFoZem]

Wow. People are still complaining about the endings?

Jesus Christ..

I agree with OP

[DCoacci]

 

LeBurns wrote...

How to get a popular thread on the ME3 forum ... Say you liked the game and it's endings ... sit back with a cold one and watch the flames fly.

OP next time you want to congratulate BioWare, just send them a PM.

 

So, you’re saying these forums should be reserved for b*tching and moaning? I don’t believe that. I made this post to give Bioware the pat on the back I feel they deserve, and to encourage others to do the same, which I’m happy to see they did. I also just wanted to add a small, positive post in the sea of negative ones to counter all the fans who supposedly now hate the devs, yet inexplicably remain on their forums.

A lot of people didn’t like the ending. I get that. You guys are entitled to your opinion. But so am I. And I liked the ending, despite its flaws. Deal with it.

And, once again, this post was about the games overall, not the ending.

Ohpus wrote...

Calling it an RPG is a stretch. Its really a shooter with RPG elements tacked on. Elements that get progressively less RPG-ish as the series concludes.

They also tripped over the finish line and fell flat o their faces. Embarassing to be sure.

Apart from that i respect your right to see the glass 90% full. I just cannot agree with it.

Hey, that’s cool. Thanks for the show of respect, and I respect your opinion. Personally, I still call Mass Effect an RPG because you not only play a role, you define one. The gameplay style doesn’t really matter to me. 


And thanks for the support from the more positive folks of the bunch. Good to see my sentiments didn't only fall on deaf ears.

Modifié par DCoacci, 16 mars 2012 - 02:23 .

[Dormin]

I have to laugh at the fact that so many people that liked the ending accuse our numbers of being immature and insulting and while yes there is bad blood amongst the ranks, the like crowd seem to possess the same flaws, I'm not talking about the OP btw. Hold The Line.

[Cuddlelump]

The game is a wonderful piece of work, which I thoroughly enjoyed. The endings did not satisfy me as I’d hoped, but as you’ll read, I don’t believe the real endings have come.

Truth of the matter is that looking at the endings, the plot holes and the inconsistencies there within, I can't help but feel it was intentionally so, a deliberate attempt to get the player questioning it. Bioware wanted you to see that ending, and go "Something’s just not right with this. There should be more, too." What I think they wanted to do was release the game, let people play it and finish it worldwide (it wasn't fully released until the march 15th) and then release a DLC to finish the game. This is an interesting strategy to keep a games ending spoiler free, if true. Whether they intended to charge for this “full” ending or not is another discussion entirely, one I’m not going to get into here.

Sadly people are so jaded, angry, and bitter that Bioware will be demonized regardless of what they do at this point. Even if the above is true, they won’t get credit for having planned it ahead of time, people will assume it was only done as a response to the outrage; or they’ll receive flak for selling an incomplete game and trying to nickel and dime us. Many claim the indoctrination theory is the result of people grabbing at straws, trying to make sense of the bad endings; Ironically, some of those same people are grasping at straws looking for every reason to hate Bioware and the games they make. That’s not to say some of the criticism isn’t justified, Bioware and their games are neither perfect nor infallible, but some of the anger I’ve seen was over-the-top.

Everything that’s happening on these forums and in relation to the game can be summarized with a single statement; we love Mass Effect. Regardless of whether you’re angry, happy, sad, etc., those emotions stem from our love of the game, and our wish to see it be better than we can imagine.

So cheers to Mass Effect, and all the fond experiences I’ve had playing it.

Modifié par Cuddlelump, 16 mars 2012 - 02:27 .

[HenkieDePost]

I actually never started to hate Mass Effect after the ending. After the game ended, I just was a little confused about what happened, and was a little depressed, but after a few days I actually started to think again and thought: Why should I stop playing an entire serie, just because of the ending? The serie is awesome, I really love it. I must say that I have never felt such as attached to a game before, and this series still has me in his grip, although it is over. I don't like the ending, and I hope they change it, but the op is right. Which game has ever got so many people talking about the ending? The ending can be read in so many different ways, and people really get emotional because of the ending. If a mass effect 4 was going to be released, (with shepard or not) I would immediatly buy it, because I still have faith in BioWare.

[minirlz]

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

minirlz wrote...

Oh and to all the people saying the "majority" of people dis like the ending 1st of all there is no way you can no that even if you counted all the posts and all the votes in all the polls online communities are only a small number of the total people who play or use whatever the community is for so unless you've gone to every house of everyone who bought mass effect you can't no what the "majority" really wants 2nd even if the majority of people who played it disliked it who the hell gives a crap? That means absolutely nothing just because something is the majority doesn't mean its the right or the best i thought was just common knowledge? The majority use to think the earth was flat the majority use to believe in creationism the majority believed that the US should go to war in 2001 the majority of people in the world have a Nokia branded phone the majority is religious... Just because something is considered the majority doesn't mean its good or right or the beat way to go even if the majority of people liked the ending it wouldn't matter because the majority means NOTHING!!! Except maybe one time....and that is you can always be sure that the majority of people are misinformed idiots!!!

Don't bother. They're in a state of denial, and they can't understand that there are people outside BSN. BSN isn't even a fraction of the fandom, but to them OMG BSN IS EVERYONE!

Please.

So you assume that because not everyone who plays the game is on here the rest of the people must agree with you?

 
Facepalm  OMG you people are so slow where/when did I say most people agree with me? Or with you? Never that's when, but you people keep saying you are the overall majority constantly and so many of you are saying you are but what evidence are you basing this on? 99.999% if not all internet polls are completely unreliable and even if they were not most of the people who play ME are no where to been seen on this online community so how do you no what most people think of the ending? When most of the people who have played it have not voiced there opinion? Anyway this was not the point I was trying to make but some how you totally misinterpreted what I said which was weather most people like or dislike the ending is irrelevant majority MEANS NOTHING!! so stop acting like it does and that just because you have more people on your "side" doesn't mean your right or better,

Also why we are unfortunately still talking about it, its a well known fact that people are more likely to get online and express there feelings if they are mad rather than happy, remember that this community is the minority of the mass effect fanbase so with those two FACTS we can asume that a large portion of the total anger players have posted atleast once complaining because they thought they were ripped off or something leaving only a very small amount of angry people who have yet to post but because they are mad they probably want too, while all the players happy/content with the ending have no need to post so therefore did not and the people that did like it and posted on here are more likely to be the people who have been with these forum for a while unlike alot of the anger players who would have made a profile just to let of some steam so although I can't say for sure (unlike you people that have been saying with 100% certainty that your right and that the majority hate the ending) I think most of the people that hate it have posted yet there is still a huge portion of people that loved,liked,and didn't care for the ending that don't even have a profile for the forum so with all that in mind id say its close to a 35%/35% split for people that hate/love the ending and a gray middle area with a group of peolep that liked the ending itself but they are a tad confused with the aftermath, what happened to your crew, earth, the fleets and so on while its annoying not to know it certainly not a series killing issue like alot of you think, I mean it even makes sense that we don't know what's going on I mean its a RPG we are playing the role of commander Sheppard we are living his story through our consoles his story ends (yes I saw the breath sence right at the end) when you make your final choice at the end so how would Sheppard no what happens afterwards? and since we are ment to be experiencing his story how would we no? Personally id like to no alot!, but it doesn't matter to much if we don't find out because it makes sense we wouldn't know and I feel like alot of this fighting could have been avoided if BW put text bubbles explaining the aftermath like they did with the DA games but owell I liked the ending so in not to fussed anyway to summarize what ever the "majority" thinks of the ending it doesn't matter the slightest ultimately its biowares story to tell and if they have even the slightest bit of respect for themselves and their work they will tell it they way they want too and not the way all these non professional game designers on these forums want them to

[Taegost]

DCoacci wrote...

(I already made this a part of a different post in the story forum, but I felt a need to repost it here, with hope that it would stand out a little more. Don’t worry, no spoilers here. It has nothing to do with the story, actually.)


I just want to congratulate Bioware. By seeing the Mass Effect trilogy through to its conclusion, you guys did something no one else has done. Something no one else thought possible. An epic, memorable, even controversial story spanning three huge, critically and commercially acclaimed games. And it was nearly entirely player driven. Regardless of how people feel about the ending, you guys got that sh*t done.

Thank you for allowing us to experience one of gaming's most brilliant sagas, one which all other RPGs will undoubtedly be compared to from here on out. You've raised the bar exceedingly high, and I firmly believe I speak for the majority of your fans when I say you deserve the pat on the back a select, vocal few seem unwilling to give you.

Good job.

I agree.  Thank you for standing up and being a positive voice in the stream of negativity.

[laststarfighter]

People are losing focus, for 150 hours of the Mass Effect trilogy were beyond amazing. We can' take away from Bioware no matter how bad the ending to ME3 was. Yes Bioware deserves praise and a big thank you, just as much as they deserve criticism.

[NeoNight1986]

Hey i am right there with you OP! ... just not the ending. the rest is among the best games ive ever played... im having a hard time picking any of the others i want to play up... because they dont quite feel adequate.

all... but the ending.

[Mohamed Yaseen]

 The game was awesome, up until ending part

[Brilhros]

I rate the ME series on the same level as the Baldur's Gate series and Age of Wonders series, at the top of my list. It's been a wonderful journey and, of course, BW deserves praise from me. After DAO 2, I have to admit, I had my doubts. But you guys managed to redeem yourselves in this opportunity.

As for the endings, well, I liked the one I chose for my Shepard and I'm perfectly happy with it. Still, I voted on the poll to support the petition to change the endings simply because It's a shame so many people are missing on this great experience. My fear is that, even if all planets align and new endings are given, they still won't live up to expectations put in them. It would be a huge risk for them, one that might not even pay off.

Modifié par Brilhros, 16 mars 2012 - 04:18 .