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Jessica Merizan's Explanation for Why Joker Fled


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#251
Headshotmaster

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Why do I have the sinking suspicion, that even some of the devs are in denial of the ending, because it was so bad?

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VonVerrikan

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Complistic wrote...

She doesn't actually know why, she's said before she's just speculating.


I don't think any of them do

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Oh poor, Jessica Merizan. Even she doesn't get the ending and she's on the team.

There isn't any reason. And even if we accept this rather ridiculous reason, does that mean the entire fleet was destroyed now?

So the end just went from sad to depressing. Earth isn't just alone in the universe and the galaxy torn apart, but the entire Sword Fleet is dead. Super fun.

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xtorma

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Like joker would listen to an order that required him to leave shepard behind.

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Linus108

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LOL

Joker has time to fly all the way down to earth (keep in mind there is a HUGE war going on outside of earth, it would take a long time to dodge reapers and fighters) then get to earth, pick up your squadmates...then peace back out and outrun the force field.

Lol Yep, makes sense.

Modifié par Linus108, 17 mars 2012 - 09:21 .


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Must suck to do PR for BioWare after this. Soul sold.

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Linus108

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Can anyone explain how Joker got to a new planet? Did he hit the mass relay before it blew up? Or was there some kind of rip in time when he outrun the force field and explosion?

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The best explanation I have heard so far is that he and the rest of the crew were trying to escape the plot.

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GhostV9 wrote...

Regardless of why he was fleeing, WHY DID THE CRUCIBLE DAMAGE THE NORMANDY AND NOTHING ELSE?


Yes this doesn't make any sense why did the Normandy get damaged?

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The pull back was for hammer (the ground forces), not for the fleet. The fleet has no where to run because the cruicible is the one and only answer they have. As Hackett said, if the crucible doesn't work, they will still bring the fleet to Earth to fight the Reapers.

Its obvious the employee who tweeted doesn't play the game

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I'm sorry, but has she actually played the ending or is she just coming up with these explanations from another source. I'm being serious here, because her explanation makes zero sense.

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Mtich wrote...

The best explanation I have heard so far is that he and the rest of the crew were trying to escape the plot.


I'm sure Joker played quite a bit of video games due to his condition (free time activities requiring lots of movement were likely impossible for him) so he should know it is impossible.:P
 

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shes wrong. if you listen to the radio com, they tell hammer ground forces to pull back because everyones dead, and this is way before he talks to the catalyst. not to mention Jokers takes orders from none but Shepard. couple that with how my dead crew by the beam ended up on the normandy? you really Fuked up Bioware. almost as bad as WW2

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Suparaddy wrote...

And therein lies the entire problem with the endings: That an associate of Bioware needs to INTERPRET what happened for us. When it isn't clear from the get go and the playerbase requires clarification from the developers, clearly the content has failed its purpose.

End of Argument.


And the worst part is when explanation is a new plot hole.

This would make much sense if they started posting "SPACE MAGIC:wizard:" when someone asks about plot hole. Atleast they would be consistent.

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Mtich wrote...

The best explanation I have heard so far is that he and the rest of the crew were trying to escape the plot.


The ending. The Normandy is the only ship fast enough to escape the ending.

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So either the team itself doesn't understand the ending, or the ending was so poorly done that the official "what happened" doesn't actually match up with what we saw, meaning the botched the presentation of the ending. Or maybe the official explanation ad ending don't make any sense given what we actually no of the characters, lore, and events, meaning he pulled it out of their ass and didn't care how it matched up with the rest of the game.
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With all these great choices, I feel like I'm playing the last 5 mins of ME3 all over again.

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Linus108 wrote...

LOL

Joker has time to fly all the way down to earth (keep in mind there is a HUGE war going on outside of earth, it would take a long time to dodge reapers and fighters) then get to earth, pick up your squadmates...then peace back out and outrun the force field.

Lol Yep, makes sense.


Transporter technology apparently exists XP

But actually, if we do what the Nostalgia Critic did we might be able to understand the ending a bit more.
Sorry, I don't have enough hammers for all of us. Most of you guys need to head desk or bash your head into the wall.

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 I'm pretty sure her theories were debunked the day she said them. Which isn't to say that I think she SHOULDN'T be theorizing, but they've been debunked already.

The call to retreat was for Hammer, not Sword.

They couldn't have landed on Earth because Earth doesn't have two moons.

There is no habitable planets between Earth and the Sol Relay. I am 99.9% positive that fact would've been mentioned well before the end of the last game, considering it was SUCH a huge deal when humanity began colonizing planets outside their system.

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Silveralen wrote...

So either the team itself doesn't understand the ending, or the ending was so poorly done that the official "what happened" doesn't actually match up with what we saw, meaning the botched the presentation of the ending. Or maybe the official explanation ad ending don't make any sense given what we actually no of the characters, lore, and events, meaning he pulled it out of their ass and didn't care how it matched up with the rest of the game.
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With all these great choices, I feel like I'm playing the last 5 mins of ME3 all over again.


None of Merizan's responses are "official", beyond the fact that she's a Bioware employee. She's stated beforehand that everything she was posting about were her own theories because she's only been allowed to play the official version of the game.

Then again, she may have more info NOW because those tweets are actually old when compared to the timeline of the #retakemasseffct3 movement, because we've had at least two responses from Bioware since she's made these speculations.

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oh dear...

FemmeShep ‏ @FemmeShep
@JessicaMerizan means he had to fly to earth, pick up squadmates, fly back. And then hit the relay (which was far away). Time isnt adding up

Jessica Merizan Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@FemmeShep he didn't go to the relay. But he did pick up the squad when hammer was told to retreat and tried to outrun that weird beam later

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KRAETZNER

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I would pay to see this expanded in dlc "Screw you commander, I'll pick up your girl, and your best friend, and leave you to die! Oh no magic force field! Boy are we lucky we somehow landed on a planet in Ftl, and only damaged our engines! To the stasis pods!"

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xtorma wrote...

Like joker would listen to an order that required him to leave shepard behind.


Plus anybody from Shepard's team.

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Linus108

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noxiuniversitas1 wrote...

oh dear...

FemmeShep ‏ @FemmeShep
@JessicaMerizan means he had to fly to earth, pick up squadmates, fly back. And then hit the relay (which was far away). Time isnt adding up

Jessica Merizan Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@FemmeShep he didn't go to the relay. But he did pick up the squad when hammer was told to retreat and tried to outrun that weird beam later


Time still doesn't add up. So if she's saying that Joker was sent to another planet NOT from a relay, it was some kind of weird time warp thing from the energy field exploding...or space magic or something.

But even if that is true, time doesn't add up. He would have had to of gone through an entire battlefield in space. Make it down to earth. Find a place to land to pick them up in ... because of another battlefiled on earth. Then fly back up through he battlefield in space...and then find time to outrun the magnetic field.

NONE of this makes any sense or adds up.

And now there is the confusion of how their ship was transported to a new planet.

Sigh. 

Modifié par Linus108, 17 mars 2012 - 09:43 .


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Spectre_Shepard wrote...

"He was pulling back as ordered (listen closely when you are running to the beam) and then tried to outrun that force field".

from twitter. hold any water?


Pulling back isn't the same as "pick up my squad, hit the relay and get halfway across the galaxy".  Remember Normandy had just helped me target the Destroyer not long ago and my squad was JUST with me.  How did he manage that?  Plus, Joker was very loyal to the commander, he'd never just bail on him like that.

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

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No offense, but this Jessica chick sounds really stupid.