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[firebreather19]

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

the best way to put it is this.

You have a nice juicy apple.

you then get a needle and inject the apple with a little poison (few drops).

whole apple is now ruined by a few drops of poison.

The poisoning ending basically affects everything in the mass effect trilogy. You can't emotionally just walk away from it and play the game normally again without that in the back of your head ... at least I can't.

That's good, because it means you didn't grasp one iota of what Mass Effect actually meant. You played 3 games and didn't once get that every individual act matters, not just for the ending but for its own sake. So it's probably for the better.

[Alterrah]

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

the best way to put it is this.

You have a nice juicy apple.

you then get a needle and inject the apple with a little poison (few drops).

whole apple is now ruined by a few drops of poison.

The poisoning ending basically affects everything in the mass effect trilogy. You can't emotionally just walk away from it and play the game normally again without that in the back of your head ... at least I can't.

Great analogy. I've read a fan-made ending and I am doing my best to keep that in my mind. With that ending in the back of my mind...I can at least replay the series.

[webhead921]

Jake71887 wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

Good. BioWare wants to fight dirty by sicking their lap dogs on us (IGN) and re-tweeting snide remarks about the fan base? Fine, we can fight dirty too.

I'd prefer people give honest reviews, rather than review bombing... At it's worst ME3 is a 3.5/5

Someone gets it.  Why can't people write reviews explaining that they like the game but not the ending?  Trolls are dumb

[Sashimi_taco]

http://www.multiplay...fect_3&review=1

It is ranked as "worst" on this site. The rating style is different for this site. It takes the rankings over everyone's game list and puts it all together. You also have the choice of putting it in your "letdown" list. It is in a lot of letdown lists.

[Sam Anders]

firebreather19 wrote...

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

the best way to put it is this.

You have a nice juicy apple.

you then get a needle and inject the apple with a little poison (few drops).

whole apple is now ruined by a few drops of poison.

The poisoning ending basically affects everything in the mass effect trilogy. You can't emotionally just walk away from it and play the game normally again without that in the back of your head ... at least I can't.

That's good, because it means you didn't grasp one iota of what Mass Effect actually meant. You played 3 games and didn't once get that every individual act matters, not just for the ending but for its own sake. So it's probably for the better.

Well considering everyone dies in the end it all feels rather pointless.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

trolling like this is disgusting and makes me mad at this community

we are adults not children

[firebreather19]

Sam Anders wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

the best way to put it is this.

You have a nice juicy apple.

you then get a needle and inject the apple with a little poison (few drops).

whole apple is now ruined by a few drops of poison.

The poisoning ending basically affects everything in the mass effect trilogy. You can't emotionally just walk away from it and play the game normally again without that in the back of your head ... at least I can't.

That's good, because it means you didn't grasp one iota of what Mass Effect actually meant. You played 3 games and didn't once get that every individual act matters, not just for the ending but for its own sake. So it's probably for the better.

Well considering everyone dies in the end it all feels rather pointless.

Well we all die in the end. Yet everyone's getting all up in a hubbub about a video game, which on a scale of less pointless to more pointless would definitely be in the more pointless column. 

[Jake71887]

webhead921 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

Good. BioWare wants to fight dirty by sicking their lap dogs on us (IGN) and re-tweeting snide remarks about the fan base? Fine, we can fight dirty too.

I'd prefer people give honest reviews, rather than review bombing... At it's worst ME3 is a 3.5/5

Someone gets it.  Why can't people write reviews explaining that they like the game but not the ending?  Trolls are dumb

The problem is many are so upset, they're wanting the game to bomb, and are taking action to make that in fact happen. Without realizing we are sending a good enough message, and certainly a more mature message, if we give accurate reviews. The mere mention of the endings and other such ball drops during the course of the game is well enough to give new customers pause, which hurts EA/Bioware. You can make a point without being ridiculous about it.

[Suntr0]

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

trolling like this is disgusting and makes me mad at this community

we are adults not children

Agreed.  This type of behavior is a cheap shot.

+2 renegade points towards the community.

[KotorEffect3]

Review bombing is disgustingly dishonest and that is why I look down upon the fanbase right now. Mass Effect 3 is a damn good game and most people acknowledge that so by review bombing because they were upset with the endings they are being dishonest.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 16 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[Miles_E]

While I don't condone the extreme low ratings, I still believe the ending does drop the game down a LOT.

Not nearly a one or two, but the saying " it's about the journey, not the end " only works so well...

[Mystical_Gaming]

firebreather19 wrote...

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

the best way to put it is this.

You have a nice juicy apple.

you then get a needle and inject the apple with a little poison (few drops).

whole apple is now ruined by a few drops of poison.

The poisoning ending basically affects everything in the mass effect trilogy. You can't emotionally just walk away from it and play the game normally again without that in the back of your head ... at least I can't.

That's good, because it means you didn't grasp one iota of what Mass Effect actually meant. You played 3 games and didn't once get that every individual act matters, not just for the ending but for its own sake. So it's probably for the better.

I'm a little confused by what you mean. I DO get that every little action in the mass effect games was meant to have an effect on the end of the game and for it's own sake. ME1 and ME2 did this brilliantly. But when ME3 ending bascially says "oh everything you did was for nothing and the choices you made in all three games don't matter for the utimate resolution of the game" I then have a problem.

this is multiplied when you have a character that was imprted from ME1 > ME2 > ME3. A character built with 5 years of care and time is now dimished to a few blah choices where all of the choice making I made never actually impacted the ending in any way. I could have started a new character in ME3 and half assed my way to the end and would have still got the same ending becasue none of the choices mattered. I could be half paragon and half renegade never commiting to a certain side and still get the same blah ending.

For me (maybe not for you, and thats totally fine) it basically poisioned the entire trilogy as I stated in my little example.

[Clet_]

Awwwww Metacritic. Where every game is either a 10 or a 0

[Roguekad]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Review bombing is disghustingly dishonest and that is why I look down upon the fanbase right now. Mass Effect 3 is a damn good game and most people acknowledge that so by review bombing because they were upset with the endings they are being dishonest.

Exactly, up til that last jarring bit it's one of the best games I've ever played. If they pull a Broken Steele and at least re-work the ending I'd give it a 10. Right now if I were to write a review I'd say about a 9 or 9.5 depening how much I seriously thought about it.

Bombing the reviews just because the ending has issues is just spiteful and plays into the whole `whinning, entiltled gamer' label. Efforts need to be kept constructive and `above board'.

[jb1983]

Hydralisk wrote...

Any sort of scoring system is BS.

All review sites should stop using scores, they show no indication of how good a game is because everyone wants different things in a game.

The only thing you can trust is well though out reviews from intelligent critics who you know like the things you like.

Completely unrelated to what you just said:

Your sig is probably the funniest one I've ever seen on here. Well done. 

[Jake71887]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Review bombing is disghustingly dishonest and that is why I look down upon the fanbase right now. Mass Effect 3 is a damn good game and most people acknowledge that so by review bombing because they were upset with the endings they are being dishonest.

And I look down on people who condemn an entire group of people, based on the actions of a few... 

[Rockpopple]

The User ratings were in the toilet before most people had the chance to even play the game. Metacritic trolls were bombing the User Score on Day 1.

This means nothing.

[tqnz]

Hudathan wrote...

Good thing I base all my decisions on the internet masses.

Isn't everything from the internet true?

[Shaoken]

Not this again.

The people who are doing this because of the ending are only discrediting the position as a whole, as people who haven't played the game will chalk it up to the same upleasable crybabies that come out of the woodwork for every major game, movie or book in history.

[Vaktathi]

 to be fair, a *ton* of these reviews aren't fair or reasonable.

Before anyone really had a chance to beat the game, it was already getting hammered on Metacritic for 'ZOMG HOMOSEX YOU CAN"T FORCE ME TO BE GAY BIOEWAR!" and on Amazon for "ZOMG DAY1 DLC!!!!!" in large party by many who neither played nor purchased the game. 

While I can understand some of the latter issue because it can appear very...unseemly and suspect, I can understand from a developmental point where they are coming from and its nice to  have that content available on the first playthrough. The former is nothing but bigotry. 


The largest issues amongst those who actually did purchase the game and have played through to its conclusion are primarily the ending, along with character importation issues and the relationship between multiplayer and singleplayer advancement. 


I've got some huge issues with the ending of the game, in fact I'd like to see an entirely new ending, one that fits the game, but one must also acknowledge and be aware that much of the Metacritic and Amazon rating bombings are being done by people with little or no investment or stake in the game, and have little ground to stand on. The "zomg GAYYYYY" rants on metacritic in particular. 

Modifié par Vaktathi, 16 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Kingthlayer]

Meh I don't use any review sits, they're all jokes. If you give a game 10/10 then you're saying it's perfect, which is not possible, not to mention the people who actually finish games and give it 5/10 or below. If a game was that bad you wouldn't finish it, let alone care enough to review it.

[Miphious]

I gave the game a 3 because I enjoyed most of it, but the ending (and now all the nonsense and non-answers from staff) dropped it for me. It would have gotten a 5 with even just a mediocre ending.

But to suggest that all the people giving the game 1 star are somehow acting inappropriately is ridiculous. You have absolutely no right to tell one person how they ought to feel about something they played and had a personal experience with. If the ending was so bad for someone that they are unable to play the games anymore then that is their opinion and they are allowed to have it! And the game certainly deserves a single star rating from them for exactly that reason.

Stop acting like everyone is being childish when they don't do exactly what you do!

Some people have taken this ending really hard. Missing classes/work, becoming depressed, stopping sleeping/eating. Perhaps they should get a life, but again, their reaction is their reaction and you have no control over that.

[devSin]

I don't feel bad, honestly. I think DA2 deserved its poor scores, and I adore the DA team. It doesn't bother me that an ending this bad skews user ratings.

How BioWare and its customers interpret (or disregard) these results is up to them.

And let's be honest, if it wasn't the ending, it was going to be Origin or the Day 1 DLC or the multiplayer or something else somebody had a problem with. Stop trying to project the actions of these people onto honest members of the community with legitimate opinions.

Modifié par devSin, 16 mars 2012 - 05:18 .

[Tequila Man]

I hear getting the attention of rich people can be done through their wallet. It's just what I hear, though.

[G Kevin]

Review bombing is not the way. Mass Effect 3 was a good game until the end. So make your point but don't beat them over the head with it.

Hold the line.