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[firebreather19]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

There is a difference between review bombing and putting out an honest review.

I see everyone on this entire board agree that 95-99% of the game is perfect until the very end. How does this qualify for a 2/5 star average or a 4.0 user score?

This is ridiculous. I don't think this movement would be so scarred with the words 'whiny' and 'entitled gamers' if you guys put out your issues in articulated matters rather than pulling this crap.

It can't be said better than this.

[Sentr0]

nvm

Modifié par Sentr0, 16 mars 2012 - 05:40 .

[firebreather19]

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

[webrakefornobody]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

There is a difference between review bombing and putting out an honest review.

I see everyone on this entire board agree that 95-99% of the game is perfect until the very end. How does this qualify for a 2/5 star average or a 4.0 user score?

This is ridiculous. I don't think this movement would be so scarred with the words 'whiny' and 'entitled gamers' if you guys put out your issues in articulated matters rather than pulling this crap.

i do agree that it isn't fair, but it's the only weapon customers have (that is immediatly available). also: 90% good but the last 10% (finale!) bad doesn't make a 9 out of 10 points for me, especially not when it's the end of a trilogy of STORY DRIVEN games.

[DrowNoble]

Wattoes wrote...

2484Stryker wrote...

I get why people are angry, as am I, but review bombing is being used as the number 1 attack against us. Next up is how we apparently all want "happy" endings.

ME3 not only ruined the game, it ruined the series.  Not only did it ruin the series, but I haven't been able to play ANY games for the past couple days.

20 hours of fun is not worth that.  Completing Mass Effect 3 was one of the worst experiences ive ever had.  The game DESERVES a zero, even with how incredible everything else is.

The rating bombing is more than deserved.

I agree 100%.  The fact that the ending ruined the entire trilogy is why the scores are tanking.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Above makes a lot of good points.  Worth a read.

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

[Skirata129]

here's my amazon review.
I realize giving this game a one star review may seem overly harsh, and yes, normally I would agree that any game that is playable deserves above this score. However, I feel Mass Effect 3 has earned this because the game seems to have been designed with the goal of setting up incredible possibility with great game play, realization of plot arcs from ME1 and 2, and excellent story telling, only to self destruct. The ending of the game destroys any gamer with emotional involvement in the game, by giving them a whitewashed, uniform ending that it is GUARANTEED every other player got. Bioware made you believe that you were something special, only to strip it away and laugh as you were wondering what just happened. I give it a one out of five, because it is the ONLY title I've ever played to destroy the re playability of other games for me. I'm not going to be able to touch Mass effect 1 or 2 again since I now know that whatever I do, it doesn't matter at all.

metacritic was mostly the same.

[goose2989]

 Never would've guessed. 

Sadly, I hope this gets Bioware's attention. I don't want it to be this bad, but I really want that Ending DLC

[Jake71887]

firebreather19 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

But how many of those sales are now used copies? 

[Thalorin1919]

webrakefornobody wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

There is a difference between review bombing and putting out an honest review.

I see everyone on this entire board agree that 95-99% of the game is perfect until the very end. How does this qualify for a 2/5 star average or a 4.0 user score?

This is ridiculous. I don't think this movement would be so scarred with the words 'whiny' and 'entitled gamers' if you guys put out your issues in articulated matters rather than pulling this crap.

i do agree that it isn't fair, but it's the only weapon customers have (that is immediatly available). also: 90% good but the last 10% (finale!) bad doesn't make a 9 out of 10 points for me, especially not when it's the end of a trilogy of STORY DRIVEN games.

No, it isnt. 

There is nothing positive about this movement. Do you know what I've seen? People belittling and insulting Bioware employees over twitter, here on the BSN, and multiple other gaming forums. What do you expect to accomplish with putting out negative reviews that don't reflect the quality of the game? All you are doing is hurting Bioware if you want ANY hope of them fulfilling your 'demands'.

You guys are asking for an apology, explanations, and FREE DLC but you see no qualms with resorting to this sort of behavior while also lashing out at people who have a different opinion and actually like the ending?

****ing lunacy. 

Modifié par Thalorin1919, 16 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[firebreather19]

Jake71887 wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

But how many of those sales are now used copies? 

Well I work at one of said stores, and 2 used copies out of 100 sold is pretty legit.

[MaximusRex]

2484Stryker wrote...

I get why people are angry, as am I, but review bombing is being used as the number 1 attack against us. Next up is how we apparently all want "happy" endings.

Suspect this hurts us in the long run

This.  review bombing just paints those of us unhappy with the ending as brats tossing a tantrum.  You are supposed to ignore tantrums.

That said, I think its still hurt from the early boming over same gender romance for men and day one DLC.  Despite Metacritics clean up the score was still about 50/50 right after, so that was overblown too.

[Greed1914]

2484Stryker wrote...

I get why people are angry, as am I, but review bombing is being used as the number 1 attack against us. Next up is how we apparently all want "happy" endings.

Suspect this hurts us in the long run

Exactly.  I get the sentiment, and I get that people want to try to impact sales because ultimately this is a business decision, but they'll just point out the disparity between the user scoress and the professional scores.  Activision basically did just that when COD had this happen.  They just spun it that people were hating because it was popular. 

[Jake71887]

Thalorin1919 wrote...
No, it isnt. 

There is nothing positive about this movement. Do you know what I've seen? People belittling and insuliting Bioware employees over twitter, here on the BSN, and multiple other gaming forums. What do you expect to accomplish with putting out negative reviews that don't reflect the quality of the game? All you are doing is hurting Bioware if you want ANY hope of them fulfilling your 'demands'.

You guys are asking for an apology, explanations, and FREE DLC but you see no qualms with resorting to this sort of behavior while also lashing out at people who have a different opinion and actually like the ending?

****ing lunacy. 

Not everyone is acting in this manner, like I said, why condemn an entire group over the actions of the few? Should I get upset with you, over the way people on your side of the schism have treated others(And yes there is bullying and childish acts going on in BOTH sides)? 

[G Kevin]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

webrakefornobody wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

There is a difference between review bombing and putting out an honest review.

I see everyone on this entire board agree that 95-99% of the game is perfect until the very end. How does this qualify for a 2/5 star average or a 4.0 user score?

This is ridiculous. I don't think this movement would be so scarred with the words 'whiny' and 'entitled gamers' if you guys put out your issues in articulated matters rather than pulling this crap.

i do agree that it isn't fair, but it's the only weapon customers have (that is immediatly available). also: 90% good but the last 10% (finale!) bad doesn't make a 9 out of 10 points for me, especially not when it's the end of a trilogy of STORY DRIVEN games.

No, it isnt. 

There is nothing positive about this movement. Do you know what I've seen? People belittling and insuliting Bioware employees over twitter, here on the BSN, and multiple other gaming forums. What do you expect to accomplish with putting out negative reviews that don't reflect the quality of the game? All you are doing is hurting Bioware if you want ANY hope of them fulfilling your 'demands'.

You guys are asking for an apology, explanations, and FREE DLC but you see no qualms with resorting to this sort of behavior while also lashing out at people who have a different opinion and actually like the ending?

****ing lunacy. 

Retake Mass Effect has raised over $50k through Child's Play. This movement also shows that fans have the right to disagree with the products they are given. After all, was Mass Effect 3 not geared toward its fan base?

Modifié par G Kevin, 16 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Jake71887]

firebreather19 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

But how many of those sales are now used copies? 

Well I work at one of said stores, and 2 used copies out of 100 sold is pretty legit.

You're not the only store 

[meisjoe]

 I'm not celebrating the bad rating.  I hate it!  I hate this whole thing...  why did they do this?

The game would have had a nearly perfect rating if not for the end...  it's just a shame.

[Thalorin1919]

Jake71887 wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

But how many of those sales are now used copies? 

People are going to buy this game regardless.

Yeah, some might be discouraged at the news of this ending. However, people complained about the Human Reaper at the end of ME2 and that game still sold anyways. There are various other games out there and other forms of entertainment that are succesful despite their poor endings.

You might think your movement matters, but ultimately, people are going to want to see and judge for themselves instead of listenting to people on the internet. 

[maki0129]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

No, it isnt. 

There is nothing positive about this movement. Do you know what I've seen? People belittling and insulting Bioware employees over twitter, here on the BSN, and multiple other gaming forums. What do you expect to accomplish with putting out negative reviews that don't reflect the quality of the game? All you are doing is hurting Bioware if you want ANY hope of them fulfilling your 'demands'.

You guys are asking for an apology, explanations, and FREE DLC but you see no qualms with resorting to this sort of behavior while also lashing out at people who have a different opinion and actually like the ending?

****ing lunacy. 

OK, again, to be fair.

Not everyone here is mixed up in that.

I for one have already stated several times that the threats, direct insults, and overall harassment of the developers, workers, writers, community managers of bioware is wrong and infantile. And I am not asking for free DLC, I know that developing products cost money.

Of course, I'd love it if the content were free.

But the main reason I'm here is to express my feelings regarding the ME ending.

And that is, it's a ****ty ending.

I'm not gonna ask for anyone's job, or head, or threaten to **** in their mouth (as some other charming dude did in another thread that got the whole forum locked), I'm however, gonna say two things "the endings are ****ty" and "can I get a new one, please?"

[Thalorin1919]

maki0129 wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

No, it isnt. 

There is nothing positive about this movement. Do you know what I've seen? People belittling and insulting Bioware employees over twitter, here on the BSN, and multiple other gaming forums. What do you expect to accomplish with putting out negative reviews that don't reflect the quality of the game? All you are doing is hurting Bioware if you want ANY hope of them fulfilling your 'demands'.

You guys are asking for an apology, explanations, and FREE DLC but you see no qualms with resorting to this sort of behavior while also lashing out at people who have a different opinion and actually like the ending?

****ing lunacy. 

OK, again, to be fair.

Not everyone here is mixed up in that.

I for one have already stated several times that the threats, direct insults, and overall harassment of the developers, workers, writers, community managers of bioware is wrong and infantile. And I am not asking for free DLC, I know that developing products cost money.

Of course, I'd love it if the content were free.

But the main reason I'm here is to express my feelings regarding the ME ending.

And that is, it's a ****ty ending.

I'm not gonna ask for anyone's job, or head, or threaten to **** in their mouth (as some other charming dude did in another thread that got the whole forum locked), I'm however, gonna say two things "the endings are ****ty" and "can I get a new one, please?"

Then more awareness should be brought to this front because honestly, as sad as it is, that's how EVERYONE views the members of this movement right now. 

[firebreather19]

Jake71887 wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

firebreather19 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 won't have problems selling. If anything, this is increasing sales.

But how many of those sales are now used copies? 

Well I work at one of said stores, and 2 used copies out of 100 sold is pretty legit.

You're not the only store 

No, and I'm sure we're not the only district and the only region and the only state and the only country, but I've yet to hear of any sudden influx of used ME3 copies. Must be all the husks claiming they'll burn their copy or destroy it or whatever are really not as willing to give their games up as they think. 

[Phattee Buttz]

The more we learn about the game's ending- the deviant art background, the stock photo of Tali's face, "lots of speculation from everyone"- the more it seems like the ending consisted of nothing more than a series of cynical decisions, all adding up to a big FU to the people who had invested the most in the series.

It's not "review bombing" if these people are expressing a genuine distaste for the product.

Modifié par Phattee Buttz, 16 mars 2012 - 05:53 .

[maki0129]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

Then more awareness should be brought to this front because honestly, as sad as it is, that's how EVERYONE views the members of this movement right now. 

We kinda' figured raising a few thousand dollars for a children charity would help along with that.

I already donated all that I could afford to donate. Won't be drinking any alcohol this week because of it.

[K0M154R]

MaximusRex wrote...

  review bombing just paints those of us unhappy with the ending as brats tossing a tantrum.  You are supposed to ignore tantrums.

While I agree that bashing the game runs counter to our cause, the user reviews are our primary way of getting serious attention from wouldbe fellow gamers. It is just as unfair for G4TV and IGN to paint the game as the pinnacle of evolution, when they refuse to even acknowledge the souring endings. Our ratings, while immature at first sight, serve as a warning that not all is as it seems. I would rather cry wolf for a fellow gamer any day every day if it keeps them from being deceived.

[ZodiEmish]

Suntr0 wrote...

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

trolling like this is disgusting and makes me mad at this community

we are adults not children

Agreed.  This type of behavior is a cheap shot.

+2 renegade points towards the community.

I am sure the 52k for children makes up for those +2 Renegade points.

[turian_rage]

The scores tanked because of Day 1 DLC. Now they tank because of the endings.