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[Plasma Prestige]

 I'm glad there wasn't a dumb boss fight, because it wouldn't have made sense.

That's not my complaint of the ending. 

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Not really, I was fine with the way things were. The missiles stuff was freakin' amazing and Harbinger beams on the run was very cool. A boss battle would be awesome though. I was starting to imagine a scenario when Shepard wouldn't get so screwed up with the beam and Harbinger would confront you and the fleet on the Citadel right next to the Catalys/Crucible activation. He would be some kind of guard and have some sort of stasis mechanism directly connected to its condition. Mostly like Saren battle, but you have to take down Harbinger completely itself and not through a "avatar."

There would be reaper forces around and some way to make some damage in Harbinger until you mostly destroy it AND THEN as a final act he screws up you and your squad and then Shep goes walking barely standing up to activate the Crucible. The fleet would also help in different ways based on your war assets maybe.

I think something like that could be very cool.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 16 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[JeanLuc Awesome]

That stand off between you and the reaper was enough of a boss fight for me, like most people I'm just ticked at the illogical mess they created.

[nevar00]

I don't think a "simple dialogue exchange" would really work. This is a video game after all (despite what Hudson seems to think, apparently) and I don't think expecting a fight with Harbinger was too big of a stretch. Or a confrontation at the very least (if we aren't counting the Starkid).

I think the lack of a final boss is just another minor complaint lumped in with the much more important ones: plot holes, decisions rendered obsolete, endings all relatively similar, etc.

[J-Reyno]

I was actually okay with the lack of a final boss fight. I think the encounter with TIM was just fine.

[Deemz]

Jimmie_Rox wrote...

ManOfSteeL1618 wrote...

Deemz wrote...

Fighting Harbinger from the inside could have been a different twist on the boss fight. Or we could have had some kind of fight with TIM.

That's actually a pretty good idea...

They made this then scraped it. The TIM fight that is. Apparently it didn't fit right in the game...

LOL good then it will be easy to put back in because what they came up with did not fit the trilogy much less the game.

[Deztyn]

I am good with Marauder Shields.

Timmy as the final boss and it being won with words was fantastic. Fitting for the end of a game where the story was the focus. It was the bits after that were... problematic.

[Grumpy-Mcfart]

Lambchopz wrote...

It wouldn't bother me if we had an epic last confrontation with Harbinger, because he's definitely a villain I can take satisfaction in seeing personally killed. I don't care how they could have done it, but I would have enjoyed that.

But yeah, the ending didn't NEED it. if done right, couldn't have hurt.

this.

[Halberd96]

I honestly don't mind that there wasn't a traditional end game boss fight.

I just find the Marauder Shields joke hilarious lol.

But seriously, a conclusion doesn't necessarily need a boss fight...especially not ME 3.

It would just break the flow.

The Kai Leng boss fight at the start of the climax of the game plus the three banshees + more holdout wave, and the words with TIM are good enough imo.

Too bad the last few minutes of the game were awful.

Modifié par Halberd96, 16 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[Maria Caliban]

starmine76 wrote...
Wait, people actually WANTED another "epic boss fight"?

Some people like epic boss fights.

Bringing down the Reaper on [quarian homeworld] was very satisfying.

[The Angry One]

Maria Caliban wrote...

starmine76 wrote...
Wait, people actually WANTED another "epic boss fight"?

Some people like epic boss fights.

Bringing down the Reaper on [quarian homeworld] was very satisfying.

Nah that's too videogamey for a video... game.

Yeah.

[nitefyre410]

A boss yes... and epic final confrontation for the fate of the Galaxy

as well as  a hannibal Lecture by Harbinger, followed by the most epic Shut Up Hannibal/World of Cardboard Speech in gaming history..

Yes, yes, yes yes yes I wanted that I have been wanting to hell Harbinger to STFU and put my Shepard Vanguard foot up its Reaper ass for years now.

Cliche yep
but like Mama' Home cooking... its just so good.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 16 mars 2012 - 05:06 .

[hector7rau]

Marauder Shields its awesome and everything but i really wanted to Biotic Charge Harbinger and then punch him with a Nova, or at least drop from a very tall structure onto him (air assassination) and stab the goddamn reaper with my hidden-omniblade.
One can only dream.

Modifié par hector7rau, 16 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Jimmie_Rox]

Verethele wrote...

His name was Marauder Shields.

Seriously though, good call on no boss fight. It was perfect the way it was (ignoring everything after Anderson's death of course).

Meh, I'd rather have saved Anderson. After all, Shep kinda owes him big time. Infact, the only major things anyone else has done for you over the course of the 3 games is the Lazarus Project and building you the SR2 at the start of ME2 both done by TIM.

Put you forward as a Spectre candidate, Anderson. Got you as XO on the Normandy, probably Anderson. Gave you the Normandy, Anderson. Helped you steal the Normandy to go to Ilos, Anderson. Got you re-instated as a Spectre, Anderson. Stopped you getting court martialed and tried for warcrimes, partially Anderson. Gave you the Normandy again, Anderson.

Over 90% Paragon/Renegade in all 3 games should have let you be able to persuade/intimidate TIM into not making you shoot Anderson.

[Tony208]

We got our epic boss fight, "Marauder Shields".

Think of the impact he had, if you die to him, you never witnessed those endings.

[FlyinElk212]

I want a psychological final boss fight.

With the Illusive Man.

Not just a "ROFL HIT RENEGADE INTERRUPT TO WIN!" like it currently is. I want like a, "you have to figure out what choices will talk him down" sort of deal. That would make for such an interesting take on a final boss fight. You fight him on the dialogue wheel.

[twisty77]

I wanted to fight The Illusive Man, Saren-style.

[Halberd96]

Like I said a few posts above, a boss fight for ME 3 would have probably just broken the flow.

The fight with Kai Leng at the start of the climax (imo the attack on the Cerberus Main Base is where the climax/ending starts, at least imo) and the part with TIM, and the part with the three banshees were good enough.

Didn't Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation once make an article on how ends of games don't necessarily need boss fights?

Modifié par Halberd96, 16 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[Lambchopz]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

I want a psychological final boss fight.

With the Illusive Man.

Not just a "ROFL HIT RENEGADE INTERRUPT TO WIN!" like it currently is. I want like a, "you have to figure out what choices will talk him down" sort of deal. That would make for such an interesting take on a final boss fight. You fight him on the dialogue wheel.

You actually can do this and it's fairly well done.

The problem is you have to do it every single time you talk to him throughout the game, meaning, all 3 or 4 times or whatever you talk to him before the end. If you miss just one time, you miss this opportunity.

[Taleroth]

Harbinger deserved more than he got. I don't necessarily need a boss fight, but we needed Harbinger to be recognized as a major antagonist, instead of mostly forgotten.

[Lambchopz]

Halberd96 wrote...

Like I said a few posts above, a boss fight for ME 3 would have probably just broken the flow.

The fight with Kai Leng at the start of the climax (imo the attack on the Cerberus Main Base is where the climax/ending starts, at least imo) and the part with TIM, and the part with the three banshees were good enough.

Didn't Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation once make an article on how ends of games don't necessarily need boss fights?

I personally found Yahtzee a pretentious and obnoxious snob.

I think a boss fight would have been fine. No, it's not needed, but it would have worked just as well.

[Walrusninja]

Shepbert and the crew versus Harbinger in your Hammerhead (sent to earth for bling wasn't it?) - sorted

There's a huge bad guy in the way. He won't die of old age so somebody needs to take him out. As the hero ....

Modifié par Walrusninja, 16 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[MB957]

I could have gone without big boss fight...altho its fun sometimes! I can appreciate the effort to switch it up...and create a different feel than just...go shoot sumthin...end game.

but for me...it went all the way in the other direction...no boss fight replaced with sudden appearance of new information that wasnt alluded to the entire trilogy. and then...3 forced choices that are so strange, very little resolution is allowed or created.

I carried sheps eggs in a basket for 3 games...several years..hundreds of hours...to put them where?? in a reapers lap in the final moments of sheps story??

thats just so bizarre to me. I am all for some speculation and imagination. heck..I grew up when there werent even computers cept for nasa! we played outside...with sticks and mud and our imaginations!

but I love video games...and character immersion and all that goes along with the ride of an epic tale! so for this story to implode...because they didnt want a big boss fight...I struggle to understand.

how did they write it so well, up till that point, when it just goes flying off the rails?? I mean..they obviously have mad skills. *high five writers for bioware*, so how it went from gourmet to crazy land in 5 minutes is beyond me!

i guess the big boss fight for me is trying to figure out what the efff just happened!

Fight on Marauder Shields! Fight On! Save as many as you can!

[xAmilli0n]

Never forget Marauder Shields.

Never Forget.

[hector7rau]

Walrusninja wrote...

Shepbert and the crew versus Harbinger in your Hammerhead (sent to earth for bling wasn't it?) - sorted

Ergh please no, the Hammerhead was awful. I wouldn't mind the Mako that much though.

Modifié par hector7rau, 16 mars 2012 - 05:18 .