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#126
Nocturnalfox

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 Remember they have upgraded the HP of all the giant units since this was posted, so it may  take a shot or two more now

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very useful thread
i wasnt aware banshees dont take extra headshot damage

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You know, it's good to know you guys'll be aiming for my boobs more often now. Thanks for that.

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I allways thought the Atlas has a weak spot on his ...well... butthole thingy?
No?

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TheBanshee wrote...

You know, it's good to know you guys'll be aiming for my boobs more often now. Thanks for that.


lol

"why me3 players are chest focussed sociopaths" xD

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The only thing I have always known is that the Banshee had her weak spot on her chest. When I play with randoms, I always say "shoot the boobs!!!"

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TheBanshee wrote...

You know, it's good to know you guys'll be aiming for my boobs more often now. Thanks for that.

Well, I already know you aim for me and my friends entrails.
So now we're even.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 30 avril 2012 - 01:15 .


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Brenon Holmes wrote...

 Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be. :happy:

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)


So have the bugs mentioned here been fixed?

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TheBanshee wrote...

You know, it's good to know you guys'll be aiming for my boobs more often now. Thanks for that.


Am I the only one that sees a trollface in that Banshee avatar you use?
I'd say Banshees are pretty trollish.

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there's another secret sweet spot on the atlas locate don the cockpit notice the miss color? though if your using a pierce weapon and it goes through allot of it it will if I recall SMACK through it more than ONCE im not sure but.. it seems to be true examples are atlas from the side there's more to it

Banshee don't seem to have weak spots just shoot at them ...oddly I done experiments sometimes the guns dmg don't always go through massively and evenly seems to be randomization

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i always though hitting the banshee in the head would damage her a lot. Well, i guess i've to change my aim.

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TheBanshee wrote...

You know, it's good to know you guys'll be aiming for my boobs more often now. Thanks for that.


i asure you. I'll hit them hardB)

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Atlas has technically 3 weak points 2 major 1 obvious

**** pit (obvious)
White color on the orange cockpit to your right you'll see it I'm sure it's hard to not see closer inspection it looks like the pilot himself
engine port back this ones hard as heck and can be iffy to hit into it

banshees don't seem to have a "weak spot" so aim for what you can cause there's so little I done head shots on them then boob shots with Mantis no pierce cause 4 weapons have initial pierce BW has .25m while the widow has .5m which is better a 1/4 meter vs a 1/2 meter note also projectile weapons vs HS meaning Hit scan a Projectile weapons are the (Cobra Missle Launcher,Falcon,Scorpion,Ki Shock,Graal,GPS) can't remember if striker is cause I'm not in possession of one yet a HS is instant point BAM it hits there no real "projectile" in the space like grenades/banshee blast it exists as a real model in the game now I noticed upon attaching pierce on a Widow or Jav and hitting on the side in certain area it strikes the weak point more than once? for MASSIVE DMG but problem is other ppl use same gun tactics as I do

notably a brute has a unarmored sections behind it in the crack where his head comes out etc. but good portions you shoot at are armored

primes themselves have the head shot that's their key zone

the Rachni two spots are the bubble bags and the blue eye when using a pierce weapon through their bags you notice a massive dmg done to them that's the occurrence of it hitting their soft spot

banshee si the only armored target without a soft spot other than turrets cause boobs don't make sense at all cause I shot there and head no general difference >_> rarly my shots don't always even have a connective strike which is bothersome I know they hit but the meter don't go down or much sometimes I can score some sorta super hit on atlas but not a banshee >_> no head no heart ..so I tend to aim at their crotch for lulz or buttox for metal sapository deposited

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Just for those 'just joining' this thread, Bioware did comment here, it's worth reading as it differs from everyone elses conjecture. (somewhat).

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how come the banshee chest does the most while the head does the least?

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Brenon Holmes wrote...

 Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be. :happy:

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)


I noticed on brutes their hind region is unarmred and takes better damages than the armour zones

Ravengers have the eye and belly

Now knowing Atlas units parts come off maybe thats what I been strikign with my widow lvl 3 with pierce mod and extended barrel or my javelin ... it would make seonce why side shots work caus eyour blowing off the part.... intresting

yeah the phantom sword thing is SP only though if implimented I be so freaked that hand cannon is too strong (equal tot he lascannon as you put it) on the atlas

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 01 mai 2012 - 08:19 .


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 You know what would really help...
THIS
Make it happen please :)

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Thanks for the info

Also noticed that Brutes take more damage in the Vertabrae/backbones...If that helps any.

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ValorOfArms777

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I might decid to post all the weak spots (including bugs out or ask a Dev to finnaly post all special monsters "weaknesses/bugs" since technically headshots btw don't count to them except the Geth Prime and that too is prob a bug

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RamPuppy wrote...

Just for those 'just joining' this thread, Bioware did comment here, it's worth reading as it differs from everyone elses conjecture. (somewhat).


It bothers me that they still haven't fixed any of the "bugs." Its like squashing bugs is dead last on their priority list.

As for Atlases, I'm fairly certain the "bug" mentioned is the dual hit "bug" that occurs when your bullet hits first the canopy and then the part in back. This "bug" is easily represented if you use Hunter Mode and the Atlas uses a smoke screen. The canopy is not shown, but the stuff that surrounds it does. So, if your bullet pierces through X meters of that canopy, you do 200% damage.

I fail to see why a Prime shouldn't have a head... Not exactly the easiest thing to hit. Banshees too. So hard to nail them in the noggin with their teleporting around the map trying to skewer the team.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

This was tested on gold, done with Widow I (Extended  clip V and extended barrel V), just my own results trialled multiple times costing my random team countless credits and exp and got me a few rage mails :lol:

Atlas:
Pilot seat: 3-4
Rocket or lascannon arm: 2
Legs: 2
Back: 3
Note: Hitting from the front, aiming for the pilot seat (orange part) offers best results. On average 6-7 shots to kill. Take extended clip if on gold. will come in handy if two spawn up together and not enough time to get to ammo crate.


Prime: 
Red eye: 4-5
Chest: 3
Back: 3
Arms: 2-3
Legs: 2
Note: You must hit the red eye from the front for maximum damage. CAN be killed in 4 perfect shots.


Banshee:
Head: 2
Chest/breast: 3-4
Back: 2-3
Belly: 2
Arms: 1-2
Legs 1 
Note: The barrier drops much quicker then the armour no matter where you aim. Same as above try to take on head on. Will drop people if it takes approx 4-5 blocks of damage in one hit (more likely if barrier is down), will not happen 100% of the time.


Additional notes: Did this with QI, to improve your survivability you can skip part of the reload animation. Once it says one in the chamber activate cloak to skip the rest of the animation (Saving you half a second) and be able to zoom in and fire second shot. :D


you can shoot the codpiece off of the atlas... may i suggest doing so and testing the revealed area:wizard: 

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gaminazn wrote...

RamPuppy wrote...

Just for those 'just joining' this thread, Bioware did comment here, it's worth reading as it differs from everyone elses conjecture. (somewhat).


It bothers me that they still haven't fixed any of the "bugs." Its like squashing bugs is dead last on their priority list.

As for Atlases, I'm fairly certain the "bug" mentioned is the dual hit "bug" that occurs when your bullet hits first the canopy and then the part in back. This "bug" is easily represented if you use Hunter Mode and the Atlas uses a smoke screen. The canopy is not shown, but the stuff that surrounds it does. So, if your bullet pierces through X meters of that canopy, you do 200% damage.

I fail to see why a Prime shouldn't have a head... Not exactly the easiest thing to hit. Banshees too. So hard to nail them in the noggin with their teleporting around the map trying to skewer the team.


I think some of the bugs are fine... atlas are hard still but phantoms are the godly assassins, and arn't bad exploitable they still prove a challenge I think primes need more than 1 weak spot honestly... they are flippin toughand cause me grief most of all like a back weak spot

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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

gaminazn wrote...

RamPuppy wrote...

Just for those 'just joining' this thread, Bioware did comment here, it's worth reading as it differs from everyone elses conjecture. (somewhat).


It bothers me that they still haven't fixed any of the "bugs." Its like squashing bugs is dead last on their priority list.

As for Atlases, I'm fairly certain the "bug" mentioned is the dual hit "bug" that occurs when your bullet hits first the canopy and then the part in back. This "bug" is easily represented if you use Hunter Mode and the Atlas uses a smoke screen. The canopy is not shown, but the stuff that surrounds it does. So, if your bullet pierces through X meters of that canopy, you do 200% damage.

I fail to see why a Prime shouldn't have a head... Not exactly the easiest thing to hit. Banshees too. So hard to nail them in the noggin with their teleporting around the map trying to skewer the team.


I think some of the bugs are fine... atlas are hard still but phantoms are the godly assassins, and arn't bad exploitable they still prove a challenge I think primes need more than 1 weak spot honestly... they are flippin toughand cause me grief most of all like a back weak spot


5 head shots and they die.
That is all really. Honestly out of the 3 big units they are the easiest.

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About nature of biotic explosions and Banshees. After Bashees made explosion but stay alive why reave make second explosion? Does first reave nullified during explosion? I noticed also that second reave makes kabooms also despite the first reave is active?

Note: reave alone does not kabooms - need teamate or drell.

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Brenon Holmes wrote...

 Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be. :happy:

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)


Its a robot controlled by a dude but still... not cool :innocent: