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[Terraflare]

Atlas takes double damage if you shoot it with any piercing weapon/weapon with pierce mod, through the cockpit, because the bullets pierce and hit twice. That's the bug they are talking about, for anyone not sure.

[Nocturnalfox]

If you skim the top of the orange part from the front you actually take 4 blocks of armour off of it. That is with Widow/Javelin, I do not know what you call it in English so I have not updated it.

Modifié par Nocturnalfox, 11 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[Nickle]

bumped because it should be close to the top

[Rodia Driftwood]

I always wondered why the turbine thing on the back of the Atlas isn't a weak point. You would think that shooting at that would disrupt them in some way..

[born2beagator]

Don't know if it has been posted, but I have found that the crotch is a weak point on the atlas. Shoot it a couple of times with shields down and the armor pad there blows off.

[ryoldschool]

This is from Brendon Holmes, bioware on like the 14th post on page two of this thread:

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Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be.

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)

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Have they said anything other than this about weak points?

Modifié par ryoldschool, 20 mai 2012 - 03:21 .

[Rodia Driftwood]

ryoldschool wrote...

This is from Brendon Holmes, bioware on like the 14th post on page two of this thread:

===================================================================

Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be.

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)

=============================================================================

Have they said anything other than this about weak points?

They really should update on stuff like this. They got a lot of technical issues to work with and apparently, enemy weak points is one of them.

[Serge_THE_GREAT]

So Brutes don't take any extra headshot damage? Odd, seemed like they did.

Modifié par Serge_THE_GREAT, 20 mai 2012 - 03:48 .

[Nocturnalfox]

ryoldschool wrote...

This is from Brendon Holmes, bioware on like the 14th post on page two of this thread:

===================================================================

Ah... hmm - I'm not sure why your empirical testing would have come up with some of that - but here's how it's "supposed" to be.

Banshee
- No weak points (aim for the belly, as it's fattest - most likely to hit it)

Brute
- Takes reduced damage in the right arm
- Takes greatly reduced damage in the claw
- Armour Plates absorb damage until breaking (best to aim for exposed flesh, probably base of the neck?)
- No other weak points

Geth Prime
- Currently has a head volume (but it's a bug)

Atlas
- Some types of weapons will do increased damage to the cockpit (this is a bug)
- Destroy any of the following to do a small damage spike (shoulder flanges, groin plate, knee plates)

=============================================================================

Have they said anything other than this about weak points?

They have basically said weakpoints do exist, but it is a design flaw and they have no intention of fixing it- however thy have given the big units a HP/shield boost, I think they will give them another one soon given that the Javelin + GI kills atlas in 4-5 shots on gold

[Kyran2401]

nice tips here, quick question though, are you guys taking into account the talent that increases headshot damage? ie will a banshee still take more damage by hitting its chest rather than its head with the +20% HS damage?

[Dynamik78]

Kyran2401 wrote...

nice tips here, quick question though, are you guys taking into account the talent that increases headshot damage? ie will a banshee still take more damage by hitting its chest rather than its head with the +20% HS damage?

good point but from my experience they don't

[Nocturnalfox]

Kyran2401 wrote...

nice tips here, quick question though, are you guys taking into account the talent that increases headshot damage? ie will a banshee still take more damage by hitting its chest rather than its head with the +20% HS damage?

Nope, the only one that seems to be affected by headshot damage is Prime.

The Atlas doesn't have a head- however with a penetration SR if you hit mid-top of the pilot seat it will penetrate and hit the machine twice knocking off 3-4 blocks

Banshee supposedly takes no extra damage anywhere, but I still think the chest takes more damage and the limbs take less/steady damage, Some others think the same as well.

It is more about personal experience more then anything.

[Biotic_Warlock]

OP has forgotten to add the Kishon Harpoon headhot vs banshees... on gold kill banshee in 2 shots.

[Nocturnalfox]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

OP has forgotten to add the Kishon Harpoon headhot vs banshees... on gold kill banshee in 2 shots.

This was before the Kishook, way before it, had a widow I at the time.

Now with my manifest it would be hard to replicate because of the new weapons and all the upgrades.

The kishook does do head damage against Banshee but it is the only rifle and the only big unit.

The trade off is it does barely anything against the other big units (Primes and Atlas) and it has no "through" penetration, just "initial" penetration (it get stuck in whatever it hits rather then go through).

More of a specialist weapon like the Javelin then a generalist weapon like the Mantis.

[Serge_THE_GREAT]

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

OP has forgotten to add the Kishon Harpoon headhot vs banshees... on gold kill banshee in 2 shots.

This was before the Kishook, way before it, had a widow I at the time.

Now with my manifest it would be hard to replicate because of the new weapons and all the upgrades.

The kishook does do head damage against Banshee but it is the only rifle and the only big unit.

The trade off is it does barely anything against the other big units (Primes and Atlas) and it has no "through" penetration, just "initial" penetration (it get stuck in whatever it hits rather then go through).

More of a specialist weapon like the Javelin then a generalist weapon like the Mantis.

Edit:  Derp, I accidentally put my post in the quote box.  What I meant to say was:


It's fun being able to one-shot a Brute with the Kishock.  Hehhehehe. 

Modifié par Serge_THE_GREAT, 20 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[pSylle]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

The cockpit on the Atlas is a good thing to shoot at in SP - but since the pilot mechanic doesn't really exist in MP it's kind of a wash. Now, if/when this is fixed... we might introduce the weak point *deliberately*... the main issue is right now we have no ability to control the amount of damage done, which makes tweaking it a bit difficult. :happy:

That; I don't understand:
can't you use the same tweak as for the headshots, or maybe it's just an instant-kill ?

[BoomDynamite]

Bump

[PeskySquirrel]

For purposes of speccing into headshot damage bonus or using increased headshot damage mods and consumables, will hitting a banshee/atlas/prime in the head net you at least those small bonuses? I know the full 2.5x modifier won't be used but I'm not sure about the rest.

Edit: Nevermind, posted before reading any previous posts.

Modifié par PeskySquirrel, 13 août 2012 - 02:58 .