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[Gnoster]

Not at all, each game will be judged on its own merit, but I do doubt if preordering will be something I do. I would probably wait until some players release their reviews.

[ChristopherJohnShepard]

Simpfan wrote...

People complained when ME2 came out, and look at how many copies of that sold to justify ME3

I think Bioware is sitting pretty knowing the forum is full of empty threats

What was the problem with ME2?
I barely joined the forums in an attempt to repair my psyche after the ME3 ending but I loved the 1st 2 games when they were new
It was a pain to replay ME1 after the gameplay improvements of ME2 but I really don't see a point to playing these games any more..

[granyte]

i have been anti EA for a while now ....

[pharsti]

Well... no, if thats what counts as "anti-bioware" i guess i am, i thought that was just the neutral choice thou, "anti-bioware" makes it sound like a renegade option >_>

Theres no reason to trust them anymore, its no easy feat, to ruin 3 whole games with an ending.

[Simpfan]

Vergil_dgk wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

People complained when ME2 came out, and look at how many copies of that sold to justify ME3

I think Bioware is sitting pretty knowing the forum is full of empty threats

I sure wasn't complaining. I loved everything about 2 and almost everything about 3 right up to the last 5 minutes (I didn't care for the visit to the Geth databank either - but apart from that).

Well all Im saying is that when ME2 came out there were people calling for all sorts of nonsense to fix the games lack of rpg elements, demanding skill trees and full planetary exploration, and weapon mods, and removeable helmets (oh that was a big one) and vehicles (which the Hammerhead DID NOT silence) and on and on and on, even having the ridiculous "will never buy a bioware game again" sort of stuff

Modifié par Simpfan, 16 mars 2012 - 10:22 .

[Gruzmog]

It was the first non-blizzard AAA game I picked up at full price in 4 years. My first DDE at full price and my second pre-order ever. If thing stay as they are all subseqeunt Bioware titles will be bought at steam holiday sales or simlair sales at other portals for 10 euros or less

[Peranor]

Vergil_dgk wrote...

Nope. Just really sad at how this great trilogy derailed literally at the death. One thing I won't do is buying DLC that does not relate to the endings somehow - I just don't see the point of side adventures when I know the horrible way it all ends.

Same here.

[Blayzereborn]

His lies were far too specific to come from ignorance.

I'm done.

[DrowVampyre]

Yeah, I won't buy anything else from them if they don't fix it. There's a difference between normal upset fans and what's happening with this - people feel truly betrayed, physically ill, not just "they should have done that this other way and I'm gonna tell people on a forum!".

Modifié par DrowVampyre, 16 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[Umbrellamage]

Very few are anti-bioware for this alone.

Dragon Age II. I was lucky enough to miss it because I saw it as nothing special and never partook. But the drastic drop in sales was telling and the general "it sucks" was palpable.

SWTOR, a fine attempt but failed on some key points, slow to fix some fairly critical bugs, ignored feedback during beta phase, Warhammer pvp team had apparently no idea how to fix PVP with drastic population imbalances.

ME3: The finale of a great trilogy and they essentially phone in the end, along with other certain points.

If DA II was a triumph, and SWTOR was significantly more complete, ME3 though jarring would not be the critical mission failure that it is. As it is, history has shown bioware's ability to put out quality products to be severely diminished.  And if anything, the lacking points of ME3 are amplified by its success in every other area.

Modifié par Umbrellamage, 16 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[Baronesa]

Anti Bioware? no

But I will no longer be the kind of gamer who says "Ohhh Bioware game, it must be good"

Cannot recommend future Bioware games based on the brand alone, not anymore.

[My-name-is-Paradox]

Depends on what Bioware decides to do from here on out. I can't even begin to imagine how they're going to try and handle this whole thing.

[devSin]

There are whole other floors to the BioWare building.

I may not be in a hurry to afford this team any favors, but I'm still quite enamored of the other.

[Yttrian]

At the moment both Bioware and EA have lost my support: At the moment.

[GuardianAngel470]

Not yet, but all Bioware has to do is make us pay for a fix to the endings.

I believe emphatically in owning your mistakes; in personal and collective responsibility. I believe that if you've made a mistake and have the capacity to fix it, you should, free of charge.

Restaurants don't charge you again if they get your order wrong, electronics vendors don't charge you again if you receive a damaged product, and most repututable businesses don't charge you to fix their mistakes.

Bioware made a mistake and at this point in time I don't hold it against them. The vast majority of ME3 is amazing to me so I am willing to forgive them as long as they make an effort to fix their mistake.

If they charge me to fix what they broke, they've lost me as a customer. A reputable business accepts losses when they make a mistake, and Bioware should be no different.

[Sierra163]

Definitely not pre-ordering any future titles and I'll wait for community reviews.

[DerpMcDerp]

Will wait for others to buy the next Bioware game and see if it's worth my money. No longer have faith to buy on chance and decide for myself.

Then again, if they were to release Marauder Shields....

[Baronesa]

DrowVampyre wrote...

Yeah, I won't buy anything else from them if they don't fix it. There's a difference between normal upset fans and what's happening with this - people feel truly betrayed, physically ill, not just "they should have done that this other way and I'm gonna tell people on a forum!".

Yes, physically ill and completely depressed... crushed... hopeless.

[xeNNN]

joiner87 wrote...

Waiting for them to answer for their crimes against ME, we shall see

this ^ 

[Jake71887]

Umbrellamage wrote...

Very few are anti-bioware for this alone.

Dragon Age II. I was lucky enough to miss it because I saw it as nothing special and never partook. But the drastic drop in sales was telling and the general "it sucks" was palpable.

SWTOR, a fine attempt but failed on some key points, slow to fix some fairly critical bugs, ignored feedback during beta phase, Warhammer pvp team had apparently no idea how to fix PVP with drastic population imbalances.

ME3: The finale of a great trilogy and they essentially phone in the end, along with other certain points.

If DA II was a triumph, and SWTOR was significantly more complete, ME3 though jarring would not be the critical mission failure that it is. As it is, history has shown bioware's ability to put out quality products to be severely diminished.  And if anything, the lacking points of ME3 are amplified by its success in every other area.

Hell, if ME3 had been a great game through and through, my faith in bioware over DA2 and SWTOR would've been restored... Instead they just kicked me when I was down.

[Vedexent]

ANTI Bioware?

No. I don't hate Bioware, and I'm not going to rant and rave against the writers and producers - even though I think they made a horrific creative mistake and REALLY misunderstood their audience.

What it's done is made me VERY wary of Bioware as a consumer.

It's not just Bioware. ANY company which advertised - both implicitly through their past product, and explicitly though their lead up advertising campaign - one product, and then sold me something different, would get such a reaction from me.

Will I buy Bioware products again? Perhaps - but instead of giving a product the benefit of the doubt BECAUSE it was a Bioware product, a product will have to be long standing, and well reviewed by gamers (not the professional game press - many of which have shown their true colors in their dismissal and denigration of fans over this issue), again BECAUSE it's a Bioware product.

Bioware has lost my trust as a CONSUMER, not just a gamer.

That has little to do with Mass Effect, per se - and most to do with my faith that Bioware is willing to deliver what was advertised when I put my money down on the counter (although ME3 is the example of 'bad product' that has made me wary).

Modifié par Vedexent, 16 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[tidus1199]

granyte wrote...

i have been anti EA for a while now ....

Yeah me to, and if Bioware don't fix this it will be the final nail in their coffin.

[HezzaE]

Not anti... I just don't care. They didn't care enough to give Shepard a fitting end. I don't care enough to buy their games.

[CerI3erus]

Jake71887 wrote...

Umbrellamage wrote...

Very few are anti-bioware for this alone.

Dragon Age II. I was lucky enough to miss it because I saw it as nothing special and never partook. But the drastic drop in sales was telling and the general "it sucks" was palpable.

SWTOR, a fine attempt but failed on some key points, slow to fix some fairly critical bugs, ignored feedback during beta phase, Warhammer pvp team had apparently no idea how to fix PVP with drastic population imbalances.

ME3: The finale of a great trilogy and they essentially phone in the end, along with other certain points.

If DA II was a triumph, and SWTOR was significantly more complete, ME3 though jarring would not be the critical mission failure that it is. As it is, history has shown bioware's ability to put out quality products to be severely diminished.  And if anything, the lacking points of ME3 are amplified by its success in every other area.

Hell, if ME3 had been a great game through and through, my faith in bioware over DA2 and SWTOR would've been restored... Instead they just kicked me when I was down.

nah man they starchild'd you