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[Aerevane]

No. ME3 is a masterpiece, an emotional rollercoaster (I have to say, Clint's work kicks me in the quad) and a great conclusion to the trilogy (if they release a free-DLC for the ending). It actually restored my trust in BioWare after DAII.

[Tallyen]

Anti-BW? Nah, they aren't worth the mental effort right now.

DAII and now ME3 have pretty much destroyed Bioware's "Oh! Must pre-order!" credibility though. I'd have to think pretty hard before buying another BW game, waiting to see the fan reactions.

Modifié par Tallyen, 16 mars 2012 - 11:01 .

[Jake71887]

Genera1Nemesis wrote...

I didn't like how Star Wars ended, and so will never watch another Fox Studios movie until they fix it. Whoa, that sounds a little silly, doesn't it?

It'd be more like saying you'd never watch anything from George Lucas... Which isn't so far fetched, I have no desire to see Redtails after the prequels and Indy 4.

[andnico]

Honestly, it pains me as Bioware was the gold-standard of RPG's for me. However, unfixed, this is it for me, and, by extension 1/3 the videogames I buy (valve, bw, and bethesda) and certainly the complete end to me buying games that have a story I so fully care about. End of an era, my friends. Good thing Baldur's Gate takes so long to play through (years), who knows... maybe 2-3 times through and there might be light on the horizon.

Edit: though I do extend the option to purchase a ME spinoff. Anything that unruins my favorite setting seems buyable, no matter what the eventual outcome may be. 

Modifié par andnico, 16 mars 2012 - 11:24 .

[kongenial]

Jake71887 wrote...

Genera1Nemesis wrote...

I didn't like how Star Wars ended, and so will never watch another Fox Studios movie until they fix it. Whoa, that sounds a little silly, doesn't it?

It'd be more like saying you'd never watch anything from George Lucas... Which isn't so far fetched, I have no desire to see Redtails after the prequels and Indy 4.

Same here. I went to the cinema for SW EP1, EP2 and EP3 and was sorely disappointed. Never again. 

[Umbrellamage]

Jake71887 wrote...

Genera1Nemesis wrote...

I didn't like how Star Wars ended, and so will never watch another Fox Studios movie until they fix it. Whoa, that sounds a little silly, doesn't it?

It'd be more like saying you'd never watch anything from George Lucas... Which isn't so far fetched, I have no desire to see Redtails after the prequels and Indy 4.

RedTails is actually a decent movie.  Some of the supporting acting is a little "meh" and the film is somewhat predictable, but it does a decent job at protraying their struggles and the hypocrisy of other soldiers at a time of such segregation.

It also does the "heroic death" ending better than ME3.

[Salyut]

After pre-ordering DA2 I was disappointed, but I still pre-ordered the CE of ME3 because I loved both ME1 and ME2. This however...

Unless they do something about the endings, I'm no longer pre-ordering anything from Bioware. From now on I will wait for fan feedback before choosing to buy their games, because their marketing is completely unreliable and has blatantly twisted the truth.

I don't mind Bioware making a game that's not to my tastes. To each their own. What I'm upset about is them making a game that doesn't appeal to me while twisting the truth in their interviews and marketing campaign to make me believe it would appeal to me. Like promising varied and conclusive endings even though it's clear by now that they meant for the endings to be vague and speculative.

[AtreiyaN7]

Since I loved the game, endings and all, why no, I'm not going anti-BW. I'm interested in seeing how the alternate endings thing pans out, so good luck to anyone who's actually behaving maturely while they campaign for it (those who aren't behaving maturely do not have my good wishes, though).

[Eain]

Last Bio game for me. I was a fan because I thought they could deliver good storytelling games. Now it's been proven they can't, so I move on.

[LTKerr]

Not anti-Bioware per se, just cautious, prudent or whatever you want to call that. If Bioware can't no longer make good or complete games, I don't buy them. Easy.

[andnico]

Umbrellamage wrote...

Very few are anti-bioware for this alone.

Dragon Age II. I was lucky enough to miss it because I saw it as nothing special and never partook. But the drastic drop in sales was telling and the general "it sucks" was palpable.

SWTOR, a fine attempt but failed on some key points, slow to fix some fairly critical bugs, ignored feedback during beta phase, Warhammer pvp team had apparently no idea how to fix PVP with drastic population imbalances.

ME3: The finale of a great trilogy and they essentially phone in the end, along with other certain points.

If DA II was a triumph, and SWTOR was significantly more complete, ME3 though jarring would not be the critical mission failure that it is. As it is, history has shown bioware's ability to put out quality products to be severely diminished.  And if anything, the lacking points of ME3 are amplified by its success in every other area.

This. Singularly of these titles - as a purchaser of all three of these games (CE of all, too!, up until I played the SWTOR beta and switched to a regular purchase) - I could point out individual mistakes and have faith. The last three in a row? I have to say I am certainly wondering if the magic is over (owning, simultaneously, every single BW game from Baldur's gate 1 up until now). It doesn't look good. My SWTOR account is cancelled. They are running a free weekend two months-ish into that game with no small ammount of doom and or gloom on the forums. ME3 may sell well, but does not appear to be generating a great deal of good faith. What the cumilitave effect of all these developments may be, I cannot say. Though I do know I am no longer on a preorder list for any BW title, nor am I expecting to be purchasing one unless a) there is a solution to this ending issue (then BW, dear, have me back!) or it's a mass effect spinoff of some sort (call me a sucker).

Modifié par andnico, 16 mars 2012 - 11:22 .

[GhostV9]

I'll probably be skipping (or at least only buying used) future Bioware titles because of the way they handled all of the dialog and roleplaying aspects of ME3. My favorite things about the series were put on the back burner for the sake of a new audience instead of focusing and catering to the longtime fans who have invested countless hours and dollars into the series, making it as successful as it is today.

It's sad really, we were all expecting more dialog than the other games and instead everyone on the Normandy, characters I've grown to love over 3 games, acted like Zaeed 80% of the time. Rarely giving me a chance to play my character the way I wanted.

[res27772]

ChristopherJohnShepard wrote...

 Say they do nothing about the endings and just fart in their hands and blow it in your tear-drenched face.
Would you ever be able to forgive Bioware and buy multiplayer DLC or pre-ending DLC or even a completely new title?

Well, it depends, while I'll never say never again about buying a Bioware game... to be perfectly honest, if ME3 is left the way it is, I'll always have a doubt in the back of my mind about how they'll "end" a game, and since, to me, an ending is almost as singularly as important as the rest of the game put together, on thing I'll say for sure is that I'll never pre-order a Bioware game again - I'll wait until I've read player reviews before deciding.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Yep.  they got my money by lying to me so they don't get any more money until they make it right.

[GorrilaKing]

Nope. As it stands now, i am not a happy customer and thus will not buy anything from them again.

[Dean_the_Young]

Soldatto Rosso wrote...

Mad? No. I'm not mad. But I'm never going to buy another EA/Bioware game in the future. I am merely an unsatisfied customer, and because of said unsatisfaction I intend to take my future business elsewhere. If you go to a restaurant and order a steak, then later discover as you are eating that one of the servers took a massive sh*t in your food, then of course I would not eat at the same restaurant. That's just common sense. So yes, I will refrain from any more EA/Bioware products. Good day.

On the other hand, what isn't common sense is to swear off a resteraunt forever after years of enjoyment and praised service, when you complaint amounts to a spoiled desert at the end of an excellent steak.

[Jim Darksworn]

Bioware have given me too many good games for me to hate them. Unfortunately i've lost all trust in them as well. So i wont be buying future Bioware titles out of apathy more so then any really hate.

[GhostV9]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Soldatto Rosso wrote...

Mad? No. I'm not mad. But I'm never going to buy another EA/Bioware game in the future. I am merely an unsatisfied customer, and because of said unsatisfaction I intend to take my future business elsewhere. If you go to a restaurant and order a steak, then later discover as you are eating that one of the servers took a massive sh*t in your food, then of course I would not eat at the same restaurant. That's just common sense. So yes, I will refrain from any more EA/Bioware products. Good day.

On the other hand, what isn't common sense is to swear off a resteraunt forever after years of enjoyment and praised service, when you complaint amounts to a spoiled desert at the end of an excellent steak.

This restaurants service has been declining in recent years. I no longer enjoy dining here and will take my business elsewhere.

[ScriptDiver]

One thing is for certain, from now on each time Bioware releases something everyone will be thinking "wonder how they will screw up this time?". No matter how much they wash, that stain is never going to come off their company brand.

[MissOuJ]

I've always come to BioWare to enjoy amazing stories, good gameplay and feel like I actually matter as a consumer/gamer. The truth still is, that despite the ending BioWare makes amazing games and is one of the most inclusive game developers (if not the most inclusive game developer) out there for female/LGBT gamers. And I really appreciate that and want to support that.

But on the other hand, I'd really like this ending ****storm resolved in some other way than "Well, it was intended to provoke emotion/discussion/different opinnions" - because there's artistic and thought-provoking, and then there's obscure.

There's a way to give your fanbase an open-ended ending and provide some closure at the same time. The ending of the first Matrix movie is a perfect example of this. The enging of ME3 on the other hand might've taken a bit too many leafs out of The Matrix Revolutions's book...

[Kitten Tactics]

ScriptDiver wrote...

One thing is for certain, from now on each time Bioware releases something everyone will be thinking "wonder how they will screw up this time?". No matter how much they wash, that stain is never going to come off their company brand.

This.  Was it worth it, Bioware?  Now you're THAT company.  Your legacy will FOREVER be tied to screwing up something that was impossible to screw up.  "Still better than the ending to Mass Effect 3" is already a joke.  Don't be flattered by it, it's an insult.

[proffbeer]

don't want to be anti-BW, but im not going to give them anymore money until they do something about the unsatisfactory ending of ME3. For the record, im not looking for a sunshine and rainbows ending, but one that doesn't leave me feeling as though i just lost half of my brain cells due to the complete and utter inane drivel i just sat and watched.

[Dean_the_Young]

GhostV9 wrote...

This restaurants service has been declining in recent years. I no longer enjoy dining here and will take my business elsewhere.

Which is almost a pradox considering that the continuous nature of the franchises has meant Bioware has had more and done more listening and response to fans than ever before, whereas in their single-shot games they simply gave you a product to accept or not.

It's almost as if you prefer single-stories to sereis that you and others subtly influence along the way.

[GraciousCat]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm "anti-Bioware", but I will have to seriously think about future Bioware purchases before making them now.