Depends what comes next. And I mean really soon. This will either make me anti Bioware, or really eager to continue, not replay, this campaign.
Is anyone mad enough to be anti-Bioware from now on?
Débuté par
ChristopherJohnShepard
, mars 16 2012 10:12
#151
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:54
#152
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:55
I never really cared for Bio-Ware products in the past, but I really hopped on board deeply for Mass Effect. I will probably not buy their products anymore since they proved to me why I didn't buy them in the first place. Back to playing games that are games. The way the ending was handled will be a huge step backward for the advancement of videogames as a true story telling medium.
The way the ending was handled makes my mind echo back to John Carmack when he said "Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important."
I guess that's how Bioware felt about Mass Effect's ending.
The way the ending was handled makes my mind echo back to John Carmack when he said "Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important."
I guess that's how Bioware felt about Mass Effect's ending.
#153
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:55
I'm not anti-bioware, anti-ea or anti/whatever. I will buy things that i like, and that's not hate. That's capitalism.
#154
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:56
If the ending we have is the final ending, yes. Not because I feel betrayed or anything, I expected Shepards death, but because everything just falls apart at the end. The story becomes a mess.
What would be the point in investing my time in future Bio games if I know that their ability to finish has been severly compromised?
That said if they release a free DLC and it ties everything up then I shall regard them as master storytellers.
What would be the point in investing my time in future Bio games if I know that their ability to finish has been severly compromised?
That said if they release a free DLC and it ties everything up then I shall regard them as master storytellers.
#155
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:56
If there's no forthcoming resolution I will be VARY wary of showing them the type of trust I had prior.
I literally pre-ordered everything since Neverwinter Nights without question.
I was disappointed after DA2s ham-fisted rushing and am even more distraught by ME3s ending.
Will wait for reviews that I trust from now on before buying
I literally pre-ordered everything since Neverwinter Nights without question.
I was disappointed after DA2s ham-fisted rushing and am even more distraught by ME3s ending.
Will wait for reviews that I trust from now on before buying
#156
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:56
Depends on how they handle this. I'm not spending another dime on any EA or Bioware product until I see that they provide a satisfying resolution to this mess.
#157
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:56
I'm pretty upset with this company right now. I've been a fan for a long time, through the debacle that was DA2 (for them; I happened to like the game, despite its faults) but what they did to ME3 was different. It wasn't about wanting a different kind of game. It wasn't about having a different vision. It was about including an ending that was such a psychotic break with the reality of the series and everything that led up to that point that it was just... w.t.f. doesn't even begin to describe what a travesty this ending is.
#158
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:57
Anti Bioware? NO!
Anti EA? HELL ****ING YES!
Anti EA? HELL ****ING YES!
#159
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:57
They're doing a good job in making me anti-BioWare. I used to love all of BioWare's games and thought they could do no wrong. But after DA2, TOR, and ME3 they are on track to losing my loyalty.
#160
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:58
Mad isn't the right word.
Mad implies that I'm taking a stand, that I'm going to restrain myself from buying any more Bioware products. That's simply not the state of mind I'm in.
I don't need to restrain myself. I'm not mad, I've just given up. I have no hope, no motive to ever pay for anything Bioware ever does again. It's not a boycott I'm challenging myself to uphold: it's just a state of mind I'm in now.
Mad implies that I'm taking a stand, that I'm going to restrain myself from buying any more Bioware products. That's simply not the state of mind I'm in.
I don't need to restrain myself. I'm not mad, I've just given up. I have no hope, no motive to ever pay for anything Bioware ever does again. It's not a boycott I'm challenging myself to uphold: it's just a state of mind I'm in now.
#161
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:58
Anti-Bioware? No.
A wary customer that is concerned by their previous artistic decisions that will not preorder a game from them ever again? Yes.
A wary customer that is concerned by their previous artistic decisions that will not preorder a game from them ever again? Yes.
#162
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 02:59
"We are not going to do a lost"
well, ya did.
well, ya did.
#163
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:01
It really, truly depends on the response. At this point, I'd openly laugh at any claims Hudson, Gamble, or Walters make in regards to any new projects they're working on.
#164
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:06
They HURT us.
Knights of the Old Republic- Epic
Jade Empire- Epic
Mass Effect- Epic
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 2- Epic
Dragon Age 2- I actually liked it.
Mass Effect3-
I'm not touching them again. I don't tolerate betrayal.
Knights of the Old Republic- Epic
Jade Empire- Epic
Mass Effect- Epic
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 2- Epic
Dragon Age 2- I actually liked it.
Mass Effect3-
I'm not touching them again. I don't tolerate betrayal.
#165
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:07
I don't know if I would consider myself "anti-bioware", I don't see myself going on forums and talking trash about them or anything like that but I would no longer be buying their products.
#166
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:08
My wife and I have always loved and stood by BioWare's titles. But the sour note at the end of ME3 and BioWare's cryptic responses and handling of the situation (or lack thereof) has seriously dented our confidence in the company, almost to the point where we probably wouldn't buy another IP from them. Why bother if you're just going to get crushed in the end?
When I play a Mass Effect game now, I don't fear the Reapers. I fear the terrible realization that nothing I do matters. And that's the worst kind of feeling to put into a gamer, or anyone who follows a franchise.
When I play a Mass Effect game now, I don't fear the Reapers. I fear the terrible realization that nothing I do matters. And that's the worst kind of feeling to put into a gamer, or anyone who follows a franchise.
#167
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:12
I think they need to fix it, but I do not want the existing so called endings changed. I think they need to build off of the indocterination theories and continue the story. Give us a DLC that allows us to go head to head with Harbinger and kick him the knee a few times; scratch his shiny coat of paint a bit.
Afterwards, the sky is the limit to bring this great series the closure it deserves.
I have no doubts that something is coming and that something most likely involves Shepard. Seeing as how Pre-ending DLC is completely pointless right now and would fail in a major way, as well as bring additional hatred towards Bioware, and make no sense whatsoever. Bioware has backed themselves in a corner. They have two options: One is to somehow find a way to draw closure to the story, or to completely bail and lick their wounds. I honestly think the first is much more smart business decision, but that's just me.
Afterwards, the sky is the limit to bring this great series the closure it deserves.
I have no doubts that something is coming and that something most likely involves Shepard. Seeing as how Pre-ending DLC is completely pointless right now and would fail in a major way, as well as bring additional hatred towards Bioware, and make no sense whatsoever. Bioware has backed themselves in a corner. They have two options: One is to somehow find a way to draw closure to the story, or to completely bail and lick their wounds. I honestly think the first is much more smart business decision, but that's just me.
Modifié par SecElit3, 16 mars 2012 - 03:18 .
#168
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:16
Over the years I have purchased the following from BioWare...
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect
Mass Effect Bring Down the Sky DLC
Mass Effect 2 (came with several DLC via Cerberus Network)
Mass Effect 2 Kasumi - Stolen Memory DLC
Mass Effect 2 Overlord DLC
Mass Effect 2 Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC
Mass Effect 2 Arrival DLC
Mass Effect 3 N7 Collector's Edition (Xbox 360) Pre-Order
Neverwinter Nights
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
And I can say now, with complete certainty, that if they do not come up with some kind of fix for this disaster that I will not purchase another one of their games (or DLC) again. That's at least $500 I have spent with them over the years, and while that is merely a drop in the bucket for them, if all 32,780+ members of the "Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3" Facebook group are like me, that will be a huge chunk of change for them over time.
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect
Mass Effect Bring Down the Sky DLC
Mass Effect 2 (came with several DLC via Cerberus Network)
Mass Effect 2 Kasumi - Stolen Memory DLC
Mass Effect 2 Overlord DLC
Mass Effect 2 Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC
Mass Effect 2 Arrival DLC
Mass Effect 3 N7 Collector's Edition (Xbox 360) Pre-Order
Neverwinter Nights
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
And I can say now, with complete certainty, that if they do not come up with some kind of fix for this disaster that I will not purchase another one of their games (or DLC) again. That's at least $500 I have spent with them over the years, and while that is merely a drop in the bucket for them, if all 32,780+ members of the "Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3" Facebook group are like me, that will be a huge chunk of change for them over time.
#169
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:18
Personally, I was never going to buy MP DLC anyway, I don't need the ending(s) "changed" per se, but some closure (via slides, text, dialog, w/e) at the very least is needed for me to buy any DLC or games in the future.
#170
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:21
Depends. If they fix the crap endings, I will gladly give them another chance. And if they don't...I'll make just about the same effort to buy their future products.
#171
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:21
Well just a few minutes out of over 150 hours I put into the ME series pushed the franchise from my most favorite ever to my most loathed. That sort of betrayal is very difficult to forgive.
#172
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:23
It's hard to respect a company that values creating speculation and "buzz" over actually telling a story.
#173
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:25
If I buy at all I'll buy it used from some random Joe on Amazon.. No way they'll get any of my money.
#174
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:25
If what we got is a final product and there isnt any fix to the ending, this will be my last Bioware game. Totally unacceptable.
#175
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 03:25
Meh, I was more upset over how DA2 turned out.
Didn't like the ME3 ending, but I had great fun getting there. A great series, all in all.
I'll pick up DA3 one day at a bargain bin price, and that'll probably be it.
Didn't like the ME3 ending, but I had great fun getting there. A great series, all in all.
I'll pick up DA3 one day at a bargain bin price, and that'll probably be it.





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