t_i_e_ wrote...
Only a small percentage like the ending. Of that percent I wonder which percent of them are paid by EA.
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
WHACK OUT THE BAN HAMMERsaracen16 wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Oh i do have a point. i just couldnt be bothered to explain themsaracen16 wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people disagree
Your point?
Yeah, I probably wouldn't understand it. Contribute or stop posting.
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
OP, you are a troll.
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
Nu-Nu wrote...
saracen16 wrote...
I'm just saying that you have no right to force BioWare to CHANGE the ending
Forcing and wanting a change is two different things, why do people not understand this? Forcing is going to Bioware headquarters and putting a gun to their head until they change it. Wanting it change is doing a peaceful petition to show unhapiness at the ending.
There is a difference between want and force.
Asnine wrote...
As for you Saracen, you've changed your position. Your previous topic was "Oh the endings are great because I can
make my own ending (imagine what happened afterwards), BW IS BRILLIANT"
to this article that you've copy and pasted. I addressed your OP in the
other thread, and, since I'm going to be adopting your style of
argument, this is my response to this thread:
"I already refuted all
the points presented in the article in some other post in some thread.
Clearly you don't know how to read. <Insert some random rambling
about how someone didn't read the OP and should step off their
soapbox>"
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
I meant like though, in the ending, what ever you did nothing hardly changes . also I completely respect your opinionGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
lol, I'd be damned surprised if they didn't. Even then, there are novels. There will probably be more novels set after these events...but I'm pretty sure; considering how much money it would make; that Mass Effect 4 is coming.
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
OP, you are a troll.
Wow, how childish. So someone expressing a different opinion than you is a troll? What should I eat for breakfast, oh Lord and Master of all?
Favorite store wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED.
It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes)
where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
I meant like though, in the ending, what ever you did nothing hardly changes . also I completely respect your opinionGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
lol, I'd be damned surprised if they didn't. Even then, there are novels. There will probably be more novels set after these events...but I'm pretty sure; considering how much money it would make; that Mass Effect 4 is coming.
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
OP, you are a troll.
Wow, how childish. So someone expressing a different opinion than you is a troll? What should I eat for breakfast, oh Lord and Master of all?
OP is a troll because this thread is all about provoking people who hated the ending into making a response...
OP is a smart troll though by working a few arguments into his troll thread
and you should eat the OP for breakfast.
saracen16 wrote...
Favorite store wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED.
Did you even read my OP? I argued that they did matter: you saving the Krogans and Quarians and Geth, for example. BioWare never lied about that. You're taking it to assume that they will all input at the end of the game.It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes)
Did you even read the OP? The ending of the trilogy is the entire game, not just the Grand Finale.where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.
How do you know that? We don't know if the galaxy is destroyed. We don't know if the mass relays have killed all life because the mass relays did not explode like they did in Arrival. Your interpretation is that they did kill all life. My interpretation is that they received the Crucible's signal, which altered dark energy in the mass relay and converted it to transmissions (go back to the game and read the Codex entry on the Crucible), which are fired at incredible speed and force to other relays. Only when they fire do the relays break, meaning that the energy is expended to the far reaches of space and time, and the destruction of the relays is from the shockwave of the energy being released, thus getting destroyed without releasing that energy to kill all life in the solar systems. We don't see people dying in other galaxies. It's not clear-cut. It leaves us thinking as to what really happened. But we got our endings. See the OP again and argue those points.
Yeah true in ME2. But maybe people though that "oh theres another game coming, so the ending will be better"Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
I meant like though, in the ending, what ever you did nothing hardly changes . also I completely respect your opinionGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
lol, I'd be damned surprised if they didn't. Even then, there are novels. There will probably be more novels set after these events...but I'm pretty sure; considering how much money it would make; that Mass Effect 4 is coming.
I agree that hadly anything was different because of that final choice; but in ME2 nothing really changed much based on your final decision ther either, because you can't have a cohesive plot if everyone can just change it on a whim. If ME 4 is about the rebuilding of the relays or some other alternative then that's the direction ME3 had to finish on, regardless of player choice.
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Yeah true in ME2. But maybe people though that "oh theres another game coming, so the ending will be better"Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
I meant like though, in the ending, what ever you did nothing hardly changes . also I completely respect your opinionGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Assuming they don'tGenera1Nemesis wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
Alot of people are annoyed, OP, because thoughout the series, every single thing which you decided to do MATTERED. It got up to a point in ME3 (in this case the last 10 minutes) where what ever you did, did not matter in the slightest. All the things which we were promised, diminished. Saving the Rachni in ME1? Doesn't matter. Curing the genophage and uniting krogans AND Salarians? Doesn't matter because the endings are essentially the SAME. In my opinion, the galaxy is doomed either way.trembli0s wrote...
daguest wrote...
Why BW should change the ending :
Saying you are an artist doesn't allow you to make bull**** everyone needs to like. And saying "you won't have A, B,C ending" suggest you won't have "Red Blue Green ending".
Also, the main difference between a book or movie is you can't change anything about it. The whole purpose of a RPG is to be able to change the story. But yet, it seems some people don't want us to do so.
Really, nothing else need be said.
Unless they make a Mass Effect 4 that continues the story beyond Sheperd....
lol, I'd be damned surprised if they didn't. Even then, there are novels. There will probably be more novels set after these events...but I'm pretty sure; considering how much money it would make; that Mass Effect 4 is coming.
I agree that hadly anything was different because of that final choice; but in ME2 nothing really changed much based on your final decision ther either, because you can't have a cohesive plot if everyone can just change it on a whim. If ME 4 is about the rebuilding of the relays or some other alternative then that's the direction ME3 had to finish on, regardless of player choice.
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
t_i_e_ wrote...
Only a small percentage like the ending. Of that percent I wonder which percent of them are paid by EA.
Yeah, because this attitude is both constructive and enlightening. Perhaps the percentage seems smaller because people who did find enjoyment in the ending aren't howling at the moon to get heard; who knows.
But I must be on the payroll. That's exactly what it must be. (facepalm)
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Provoke? Nah, more like invites discussion. This "someone who has a different opinion than me is a troll" trend going on is played out already.Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
OP, you are a troll.
Wow, how childish. So someone expressing a different opinion than you is a troll? What should I eat for breakfast, oh Lord and Master of all?
OP is a troll because this thread is all about provoking people who hated the ending into making a response...
OP is a smart troll though by working a few arguments into his troll thread
and you should eat the OP for breakfast.
saracen16 wrote...
I'm right here, Mr. Ironfist. You want to say something about me, say it to my face.
And if you don't have a point to argue, you're trolling. Not me.
Is proper debate considered provoking now?
Mycrus Ironfist wrote...
saracen16 wrote...
I'm right here, Mr. Ironfist. You want to say something about me, say it to my face.
And if you don't have a point to argue, you're trolling. Not me.
Is proper debate considered provoking now?
Mr. 16 -- you had good points in your original post about the journey being better than the destination
however, you already know that there are people that have been greatly affected by the bad ending.... i couldn't get out of bed the following day after rushing to finish it the night before...
even your title is provoking.. when a lot of people want the ending changed..
if you are not trolling, then your thread is insensitive to say the least.
saracen16 wrote...
See? Trolling aside, if you guys look back at the previous 9 pages, you'll see that I and several posters who want the ending changed or were upset about it managed to get some good discussion. Let's keep it civil.
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Do you understand the precedent that would set? What if a bunch of people don't like how the GTA game ends; so now fans can change the intellectual properties that someone else owns the rights to, simply by petitioning? Asking for change is one thing...demanding it is another.
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