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[secretagentbw]

What about playing as a Vangard? I typically bring Kaidan and Liara and use reave and warp respectively which seems to work, but the banshee's still manage to get super close...

[NY Dynasty1977]

Im still really wondering bout this sabotage use on Brutes/Banshees...is this true or fiction? I would try it myself but havent been able to play working so much!!!! Finally off Thursday. I wanna know cuz I dont wanna re-spec my Shep for nothing as I only have sabotage up to 3rd level

[Jinxster120]

The final evolution of Sabotage gives you 100% more Techdamage for 10 seconds on the target. It doesn´t matter if the target is organic or armor or has a barrier. Use it and watch a brute melt from 2 Incinerates on Insanity.
On my Engineer playthrough I also got the feeling that Ammo power count as techdamage cause those powers did a lot of damage against sabotaged enemies.
But I´m not sure on that. Maybe someone can confirm?

[NY Dynasty1977]

Jinxster120 wrote...

The final evolution of Sabotage gives you 100% more Techdamage for 10 seconds on the target. It doesn´t matter if the target is organic or armor or has a barrier. Use it and watch a brute melt from 2 Incinerates on Insanity.
On my Engineer playthrough I also got the feeling that Ammo power count as techdamage cause those powers did a lot of damage against sabotaged enemies.
But I´m not sure on that. Maybe someone can confirm?

and how did u like engineer?  im considering running that or adept on second playthru...

[Jinxster120]

I played a CQC shotgun engineer with defense matrix. I did not care about my squadmates and always changed them and it was by far the easiest insanity run i did in ME3.
Overload with Neural Shock is just an amazing CC. You don´t even need drones to run in and go close and personal.
But it was more fun than Adept or Vanguard.

[NY Dynasty1977]

Jinxster120 wrote...

I played a CQC shotgun engineer with defense matrix. I did not care about my squadmates and always changed them and it was by far the easiest insanity run i did in ME3.
Overload with Neural Shock is just an amazing CC. You don´t even need drones to run in and go close and personal.
But it was more fun than Adept or Vanguard.

yeah, u sold me, engineer just got too many gadgets and powers to have fun with.  I wanna try this sabotage max as soon as I get home, too bad Im almost at the end, Cerebus HQ.  Well, atleast Ill know for when I do my engi run.  Im surprised more ppl havent written about sabotage/incinerate tech combo....

[CptBomBom00]

Well, I use Revenant with incendiary ammo+ some Adrenaline and Tali's power, Also Will black widow work with Garrus?

[Jinxster120]

NY Dynasty1977 wrote...

yeah, u sold me, engineer just got too many gadgets and powers to have fun with.  I wanna try this sabotage max as soon as I get home, too bad Im almost at the end, Cerebus HQ.  Well, atleast Ill know for when I do my engi run.  Im surprised more ppl havent written about sabotage/incinerate tech combo....

I´m sure this is widly known, but on the other hand a lot of people may only think of Sabotage as kind of the AI Hack ability from ME2.
The power would be good even without the techdamage buff. The backfire part of it does 352 damage with defense matrix activated. And that number is of course before the 100% more techdamage from it´s final evolution.

I´m sure you could up those numbers a bit with the right armor, but i´m just wearing the N7 defender for the looks.

I just reload the Asari monastery to give you some numbers. On the Banshees it was Sabotage-Overload-Barrier gone-Incinerate-Shotgun-refresh Sabotage-Shotgun-Incinerate-Incinerate-Banshee gone...

[VarrenSoldier]

Infiltrator with Kaidan and Garrus. This is for Banshees. This may not be reccomended for higher difficulties. But I haven't tried it on higher difficulties.
Cloak, find a good spot, overload (overload again if Barriers not down), Black Widow shots.

[NY Dynasty1977]

Jinxster120 wrote...

NY Dynasty1977 wrote...

yeah, u sold me, engineer just got too many gadgets and powers to have fun with.  I wanna try this sabotage max as soon as I get home, too bad Im almost at the end, Cerebus HQ.  Well, atleast Ill know for when I do my engi run.  Im surprised more ppl havent written about sabotage/incinerate tech combo....

I´m sure this is widly known, but on the other hand a lot of people may only think of Sabotage as kind of the AI Hack ability from ME2.
The power would be good even without the techdamage buff. The backfire part of it does 352 damage with defense matrix activated. And that number is of course before the 100% more techdamage from it´s final evolution.

I´m sure you could up those numbers a bit with the right armor, but i´m just wearing the N7 defender for the looks.

I just reload the Asari monastery to give you some numbers. On the Banshees it was Sabotage-Overload-Barrier gone-Incinerate-Shotgun-refresh Sabotage-Shotgun-Incinerate-Incinerate-Banshee gone...

[UJN]

I was planning to use the black widow on my infiltrator on insanity, but now I'm considering to continue with the valiant to be able to cast sabotage and incinerate (+ garrus' overload vs shields/barriers) faster.
Is it worth using defense matrix to increase tech power or or is faster cooldown preferable?
What's the best way of using cloak in combination with sabotage+incinerate, cloak->sabotage->incinerate or sabotage->cloak->incinerate->incinerate? Or is it better to skip cloak?

[silverspirit2001]

Brutes are easy, with infiltrator. It is just tactical clock (with fire a power), sabotage (with 100% tech damage), carnifax (or any pistol with armor bypass) with fully evolved cryo ammo (+25 armor weakening), then incinerate with 100% bonus damage to frozen and chilled targets, once the cooldown from sabotage has finished. The dot over time damage along with the initial damage from incinerate will kill them in 3 seconds.

Also allows you to rock the viper with 200% cooldown to kill mooks. Tend to use fully evolved disrupter near the end on the viper along with energy drain to murder the shields of banshees, or better still, use tech + overload from garus evolved to damage barriers more and energy drain from tali - on insanity, with leaves banshees with only 2 bars of shielding which is easily stripped by the viper under cloak, leaving only the armor, and with 2 castings of incinerate and using cryo ammo on your second weapon.

[UJN]

silverspirit2001 wrote...

Brutes are easy, with infiltrator. It is just tactical clock (with fire a power), sabotage (with 100% tech damage), carnifax (or any pistol with armor bypass) with fully evolved cryo ammo (+25 armor weakening), then incinerate with 100% bonus damage to frozen and chilled targets, once the cooldown from sabotage has finished. The dot over time damage along with the initial damage from incinerate will kill them in 3 seconds.

Also allows you to rock the viper with 200% cooldown to kill mooks. Tend to use fully evolved disrupter near the end on the viper along with energy drain to murder the shields of banshees, or better still, use tech + overload from garus evolved to damage barriers more and energy drain from tali - on insanity, with leaves banshees with only 2 bars of shielding which is easily stripped by the viper under cloak, leaving only the armor, and with 2 castings of incinerate and using cryo ammo on your second weapon.

Does sabotage in any way benefit from cloak's damage bonus? Otherwise, it seems better to use sabotage before cloaking and then 2 incinerates with cloak's bonus damage. Or is there any other reason to use sabotage while cloaked?

Planning to use squad cryo ammo, but does anyone know if the armor weakening is reduced from 50 to 25 for squad members?
If that's the case I might bring a locust/hurricane as a secondary weapon (might do that anyway).

[therussianviking]

Soldier shep+ fully charged graal spike thrower+ incindiary ammo. No problem

[ashwind]

secretagentbw wrote...

What about playing as a Vangard? I typically bring Kaidan and Liara and use reave and warp respectively which seems to work, but the banshee's still manage to get super close...

If you are a Vanguard, you really do not need to worry about the Banshee getting close. As long as they stop their annoying random teleport, you can just stand there and shoot it with a shotgun. Since it is close to you, it will hurt them like hell 

If it tries to use its biotic attack - Charge it!! Then you can roll away and keep shooting it. If it grabs you, grenades and biotic detonation that does enough damage to it will break their grip.

[secretagentbw]

ashwind wrote...

secretagentbw wrote...

What about playing as a Vangard? I typically bring Kaidan and Liara and use reave and warp respectively which seems to work, but the banshee's still manage to get super close...

If you are a Vanguard, you really do not need to worry about the Banshee getting close. As long as they stop their annoying random teleport, you can just stand there and shoot it with a shotgun. Since it is close to you, it will hurt them like hell 

If it tries to use its biotic attack - Charge it!! Then you can roll away and keep shooting it. If it grabs you, grenades and biotic detonation that does enough damage to it will break their grip.

Thanks, I actually tried using a shotgun last night and found that works great! 

[Merchant2006]

Right now I am currently an Adept with Liara & Javik.

Liara has stasis / Warp and Javik has Slam / Dark Channel. My adept has pull, warp, throw, passive maxxed.

So:

1) Liara Warp + Adept Throw
2) Javik DC + Adept Throw
3) Adept Warp + Adept Throw

by which Liara's cooldown has ended and I can repeat Steps 1 and 3 until Javik's DC cooldown ends, and repeat.

It depends on your class but anything works, heh.

[humes spork]

secretagentbw wrote...
What about playing as a Vangard?

Bring Garrus or EDI, with Kaiden. Set up biotic explosions with reave then charge (followed by an immediate dodge roll back to keep from getting instakilled then nova), and overload barriers down. Should only take one overload if you evolved shield damage on rank 6.

Modifié par humes spork, 06 avril 2012 - 02:19 .

[Aleru]

My Engineer Playthrough have been the easiest to the date. I usually bring Vega with me, and Ashley. so i sabotage banshee's shield and then go boom boom with grenades and incinerate...and banshee's gone.
For brutes, incinerate, grenades and they die.
downside is, that the only one with tech powers is my engineer, so it gets tricky sometimes. But its the easiest way i found.

[JosieJ]

Well, I just played Priority: Tuchanka with my Engineer (plus James & Liara) and the brutes were overwhelming us until I just decided to dodge them all and run, so obviously I was doing it wrong! I was using Incinerate (and Warp and Carnage) for all I was worth, but I haven't finished leveling Cryo Blast or Sabotage yet. We'll have to see how it goes on NG+ on Insanity (I'm playing Hardcore now).

[secretagentbw]

humes spork wrote...

secretagentbw wrote...
What about playing as a Vangard?

Bring Garrus or EDI, with Kaiden. Set up biotic explosions with reave then charge (followed by an immediate dodge roll back to keep from getting instakilled then nova), and overload barriers down. Should only take one overload if you evolved shield damage on rank 6.

I'll try that, my squadmates are typicall always either Garrus and Liara or Garrus and Kaidan

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

Sabotage is a vastly under-rated skill.... It has lots of applications and can make turn good tech powers into uber-tech killers (if it's evolved correctly).

[Merengues 1945]

Is there a nice and quick strategy for a Sentinel Shepard? I have been getting a lot of trouble with the banshees.

Brutes are piece of cake for the sentinel... even those on the brute rodeo in Tuchanka but banshees are annoying, one it's a cupcake but two or more are a nightmare

[termokanden]

Biotic/tech combos are the best way for a caster to kill banshees. They don't really have weak points and warp all over the place, so destroying them with weapons can be slow or at the very least annoying.

Warp + Throw does the trick, for example.

Modifié par termokanden, 08 avril 2012 - 09:47 .