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People need to get off Jacob's nuts about ME3.


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BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem is that FemShep is already screwed with Thane, why should they be screwed from 2/3 romance from ME2? Imagine if Miranda or Tali broke up with Shep, the whole forum would explode.


Yeah, it would be terrible because those characters are actually popular.

(Also, you're not their plan B choice.)

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i think some people are placing too much realism on a character that is based off a fictional world. alot of people got hurt through the jacob romance as well as the other me2 romances. the same goes for the me3 endings, people walked away hurt. the endings and the me2 romances needs to be fixed and i think we need to stop calling people stupid (in so many words) for how they felt over the failed romance.

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jacob is not a person, he is a character who bioware horribly botched

get serious man

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Optimystic_X wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem is that FemShep is already screwed with Thane, why should they be screwed from 2/3 romance from ME2? Imagine if Miranda or Tali broke up with Shep, the whole forum would explode.


Yeah, it would be terrible because those characters are actually popular.

(Also, you're not their plan B choice.)


So we should only cater to the popular characters, great idea!

Anyway, what you mean by Plan B? *Confusion*

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem is that FemShep is already screwed with Thane, why should they be screwed from 2/3 romance from ME2? Imagine if Miranda or Tali broke up with Shep, the whole forum would explode.


Yeah, it would be terrible because those characters are actually popular.

(Also, you're not their plan B choice.)


So we should only cater to the popular characters, great idea!

Anyway, what you mean by Plan B? *Confusion*


i think he's referring to miranda, which makes him silly

Modifié par lyssalu, 16 mars 2012 - 08:25 .


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I have a really hard time understanding why Bioware did this. It wasn't just that Jacob broke up with FemShep, but that he went about it in such an appalling way that really stings. Also, while romances might end badly in real life all the time, this is a video game people play for fun; there was no reason for Bioware to give such an undeserved gut punch to a group of players.

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lyssalu wrote...
i think he's referring to miranda, which makes him silly


If it's so silly, how did you know who I was talking about?

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Apathy1989 wrote...

Anyone who romanced jacob only did it for his body anyway.


Yes, my femShep did. And I don't understand why she can't get Vega in ME3... with his sexy body...

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People saying this amuse me.

Because you just know if the same thing happened to Tali, Jack, Garrus, Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Liara that this entire forum would tear itself apart. But oh no, Sparatus! Those characters are actually popular! Bioware would never do that!

Well, they kinda did. Thane and Miranda were pretty popular, you know. And as for the others, If they don't starve to death on that planet then they were disintegrated when Earth's relay turned into the light of God.

Anyway, I'm not annoyed because of the cheating (it's a stupid plot development and invalidates a choice, but whatever.) I'm annoyed because of how poorly written, and forced it is. There is little to no difference in the dialog between an unromanced and a romanced Jacob. And what little we do get seems to be telling us how stupid we are for romancing Jacob. Not to mention the whole Brynn rubbing it in your face by admitting to "stealing Jacob away from you," and you are barely even able to tell Jacob off about the whole thing. Hell, there is also barely any acknowledgement of the romance beyond those three lines. I think even Thane got off better than that. It's the ****ty, and half-assed execution that has annoyed a lot of people (and the cheating) and it is insulting that a developer that prides itself on writing engaging and memorable characters wrote something so lazily, even if the character is unpopular with most of the fanbase.

Oh, and Jacob still turns out like his dad. Because even if the relays blowing up didn't disintegrate Earth, he is still separated from Brynn and the child (henceforth known as Lawson Shepard Taylor) leaving Lawson Shepard Taylor to grow up alone and without a father. Unless they were also vaporized by an exploding relay because Shepard just killed the entire galaxy.

So... Nice job, Jacob?

And holy hell. It was just six months. Kaidan, Liara, and Ashley waited two years. And Shepard was dead!

Oh, god. I wrote too much about this. Screw you, Bioware.

Modifié par Sparatus, 16 mars 2012 - 09:12 .


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Exactly. On top of that, add that the original love interests had Shepard's involvement with Cerberus to deal with/ resolve. Jacob is a ho.

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Optimystic_X wrote...

lyssalu wrote...
i think he's referring to miranda, which makes him silly


If it's so silly, how did you know who I was talking about?


because she was a prior romantic interest of his and i'm capable of logical deduction

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lyssalu wrote...
because she was a prior romantic interest of his and i'm capable of logical deduction


And how did you know Miranda was a prior romantic interest of his?

Because he tells you. He goes on to tell you that it ended because he isn't good enough for her. But FemShep on the other hand - why, she's just his speed. Gotta love that low-hanging fruit, right?

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Optimystic_X wrote...

lyssalu wrote...
because she was a prior romantic interest of his and i'm capable of logical deduction


And how did you know Miranda was a prior romantic interest of his?

Because he tells you. He goes on to tell you that it ended because he isn't good enough for her. But FemShep on the other hand - why, she's just his speed. Gotta love that low-hanging fruit, right?


Nope, sorry. It's a way of saying that Miranda is high-maintance. His writer even said so, I wish they had let him say so in some other way since people often get it wrong.

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SilentK wrote...

Nope, sorry. It's a way of saying that Miranda is high-maintance. His writer even said so, I wish they had let him say so in some other way since people often get it wrong.


Writer telephone game is nice and all, but I'm going off the game's actual dialogue.

Besides, isn't his writer the guy who screwed you folks over? Why is his opinion suddenly valuable?

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 16 mars 2012 - 10:02 .


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Optimystic_X wrote...

SilentK wrote...

Nope, sorry. It's a way of saying that Miranda is high-maintance. His writer even said so, I wish they had let him say so in some other way since people often get it wrong.


Writer telephone game is nice and all, but I'm going off the game's actual dialogue.

Besides, isn't his writer the guy who screwed you folks over? Why is his opinion suddenly valuable?


Don't worry, people roleplay it how they want to. And that is what he says. I took it the same way as you first time I heard it, only figured it out after talking to people in the Jacob-thread back in ME2. Then I had to go back to a earlier save and replay it. Blame it on english being my second language, I'm not used to people using the intonation and wording that way.

I wish they had kept his old writer from ME2 but there is someone new that writes Jacob in ME3, we just discussed this a few days ago in the Jacob-thread. Feels like that person only listened to the beginning of the romance-arc when FemShep has a creepy voice and not the great conversations they had afterwards.

Modifié par SilentK, 16 mars 2012 - 10:12 .


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Anyone who romanced jacob only did it for his body anyway. Why romance him when you got garrus in ME2?

A tragic inability to find turians attractive, I'm guessing.

Feels like that person only listened to the beginning of the romance-arc when FemShep has a creepy voice

Yeah, it's not really fair to hate Jacob because of Shepard's inappropriate behavior (You don't like him that way!) but I still kind of resented him for it.

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The idea that Shepard wouldnt have been able to get out any sort of communication while on Earth is the biggest load of crap in the whole question of waiting six months. Shepard blew up a bunch of Batarians. Batarian hatred has a pretty big population of the humans given the history of conflict between the species. Add in Shepard already being a damn war hero in general as well as connections like his/her mother(if you went that back history route) Hackett, and Anderson all being Admirals. If they wanted to have emails get out to his loved ones I have no doubt in my mind there would have been a way to get it done. Any claim that Shepard was incapable of talking to anyone is just a lazy cop-out

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Sparatus wrote...

People saying this amuse me.

Because you just know if the same thing happened to Tali, Jack, Garrus, Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Liara that this entire forum would tear itself apart.  




Both Tali and Garrus can end up together depending on who you romance during ME3. 

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Given Kasumi's interest in Jacob and the fact she even asks about him when you do the side mission with her I really expected something to come from that.

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i dont really have an issue with it, granted i never romanced him. never cared enough to even think about it lol.

its kinda neat he did stuff on his own. my reaction to him finding a girl and starting a family was "wow, good for you dude!"

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Optimystic_X wrote...

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How about before the Normandy was impounded? If he knew he wouldn't be able to resist the prize until Shepard was released from Allianace custody, he should have ended it there.


Before the Normandy was impounded he was on it, with you. Why would he break up then?

It's only after months apart with no contact whatsoever that he began to feel lonely. And along comes Brynn...


I would imagine that the other LI's got lonely as well, and yet not one of them cheated. It's immensely lazy writing on Bioware's part, to the point where Jacob's character in ME3 doesn't even resemble his character in ME2, aside from the physical resemblance. 

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I'm a Kaidan fan but I still feel the frustration of Jacob fans. Kaidan waited 3 years for my Shepard with more reason to move on (Shep was dead), but Jacob can't wait a few months. And the conversation with Jacob in the hospital acts like nothing happened. How about a renegade interrupt to knee him in the balls?

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Optimystic_X wrote...

lyssalu wrote...
because she was a prior romantic interest of his and i'm capable of logical deduction


And how did you know Miranda was a prior romantic interest of his?

Because he tells you. He goes on to tell you that it ended because he isn't good enough for her. But FemShep on the other hand - why, she's just his speed. Gotta love that low-hanging fruit, right?


lol no

that's an inaccruate interpretation of what he said and you're not using much reason to infer why dialog like that was included; jacob is not a real person.  that line was intended for malesheps who were romancing miranda, and in that instance, jacob was deferring to shepard and calling him a better fit.  when voiced in a maleshep playthrough, that's what that line means.

with femshep, it sounds like he's calling miranda a high maintenance **** and like she was a waste of his time.  do you really think bioware would have intended for that line to be interpreted otherwise?  they spent a lot of time on his romance -- they weren't trying to insult their female players with it.

use your brain,  bro.

Modifié par lyssalu, 18 mars 2012 - 12:07 .


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Jacob cheats on you if you choose to romance him?! Wow, talk about a slap in the face. I mean, I know he was the least popular squadmate, but still...ouch.

He really couldn't wait six months? Kaidan went a whole two years of being alone after he thought Shepard died and another year after that of knowing she was working with "terrorists" and then put under Alliance house arrest. Jacob had to knock someone up after not seeing Shep for six months yet knowing where she was anyhow?

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Optimystic_X wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem is that FemShep is already screwed with Thane, why should they be screwed from 2/3 romance from ME2? Imagine if Miranda or Tali broke up with Shep, the whole forum would explode.


Yeah, it would be terrible because those characters are actually popular.

(Also, you're not their plan B choice.)


Who said Thane isn't popular? Female players got screwed over this time around, it's complete nonsense really. Jacob may not have had the biggest fanbase but people still did romance him in 2, THAT'S what matters. Bioware should have considered those who did instead of coming up with this new plot line for him. They're basically saying Oh you romanced Jacob LOL good luck with that, you should have just stuck with Liara/Kaiden/Garrus.