Nightsider2169 wrote...
The "ending" was clearly set up as a TO BE CONTINUED kind of thing. All the hints and clues were there IF you paid attention.
It was beautifully told and masterfully pulled off Bioware... Kudos !
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Prove it.
Whoops... can't do that can you?^^
SharlenaSharlena wrote...
Uh ohhhhhh you should have stayed in your hidey hole! Now your gonna get bombarded with questions!
Nykara wrote...
Nightsider2169 wrote...
The "ending" was clearly set up as a TO BE CONTINUED kind of thing. All the hints and clues were there IF you paid attention.
It was beautifully told and masterfully pulled off Bioware... Kudos !
It really is about time people started catching on to this one. So true though and sooo perfectly done at the risk of the backlash recieved so far. Then again maybe they couldn't have predicted that so many wouldn't figure it out either?
Jellyfish Opera wrote...
There will be no DLC with a "real" ending, nobody is going to "fix" anything. What you watched and got is what you got. You're only option is to be creative, unfortunately. Sorry, you may not want to believe it, but it is what it is.
Nykara wrote...
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Prove it.
Whoops... can't do that can you?^^
No one can 'proove' it other then the fact that short of putting to be continued... just before the credits rolled they made it pretty damn obvious with the final cutscene after the credits ( along with a few other things ). It was my thought straight away the moment that cutscene had ended.
Shayuri wrote...
Jellyfish Opera wrote...
There will be no DLC with a "real" ending, nobody is going to "fix" anything. What you watched and got is what you got. You're only option is to be creative, unfortunately. Sorry, you may not want to believe it, but it is what it is.
There's no more evidence to support this than there is to support the "There's More Coming" notion.
In other words, no real evidence on anyone's side. It's like arguing over whether or not God exists. Some of us, myself included, look at what's in the game, and what various Bioware people have said, and infer the existence of an Aftergame (or more accurately, that the game hasn't ended yet and more is on the way). Others do not.
The crucial difference of course is that with ME3, we know there is a creator involved. Said creator(s) is not especially communicative, making the interpretation of its intentions difficult...but we know there is one. So when I look at the 'end'game cinematics, I know that someone designed them, someone planned them and someone made them...and someone had a final say in whether or not it made it to the final cut. This gives me a confidence in making inferences based on its contents that I do not feel when asked to make inferences about the real universe.
But inferences don't constitute evidence, and it's unfair to expect anyone to prove more content is NOT coming. So I don't expect to convert anyone who is really resolute.
My decision to believe more content is coming is based more on instinct, and a general belief that no team that got all of ME3 done like that would ever let an ending like that rest. All the other stuff I use to justify my belief is pretty much just window dressing.
I tend to think, on the flipside, that people who refuse to acknowledge the possibility of additional content may be letting their disappointment and anger cloud their judgement. Clearly it IS a possibility, if nowhere near a certainty.
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Nykara wrote...
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Prove it.
Whoops... can't do that can you?^^
No one can 'proove' it other then the fact that short of putting to be continued... just before the credits rolled they made it pretty damn obvious with the final cutscene after the credits ( along with a few other things ). It was my thought straight away the moment that cutscene had ended.
It's the only way the story can make sense... but it doesn't necessarily mean Bioware will do it.
The "one more story" about "the Shepard" could easily be side story DLC and have nothing to do with the ending. One more story doesn't equate to "more about the same story."
Modifié par OdanUrr, 16 mars 2012 - 10:31 .
Rusty0918 wrote...
Have you folks read what I last posted on this thread? AS a matter of fact, read it here: http://social.biowar.../index/10083207 - take a look at it.
OdanUrr wrote...
Rusty0918 wrote...
Have you folks read what I last posted on this thread? AS a matter of fact, read it here: http://social.biowar.../index/10083207 - take a look at it.
If your theory is true, my friend, I'll be even more pissed off than I am now.
Nykara wrote...
They wouldn't say one more story about The Shepard if they intended DLC that slotted in between the rest because clearly they intend to do more then one DLC just as in all of the other games so that in itself would totally not make sense.
In keeping with the this overall theory - Shepards story not being completed yet one way or the other ( ending DLC or ME4 or whatever ) I have another 'theory' to what happened other then the indoctrination theory.
Mirranda and her sister where basically created were they not? Shepard was in Cerberus's hands for a long time, anything could have happened in that time. TIM said he wanted Shepard completely in tact but what if thats not the Shepard we have been playing all this time, or if there is 'more then one' out there. Something was mentioned about keeping Shepards brain in one peice ( as much as possible ) the rest. There was nothing mentioned about the body actually being in one peice. It could also go with the indoctrination theory too, this Shepard is indoctrinated and the real ones still out there somewhere in a Cerberus lab that has yet to be discovered. Or at least something to do with them having made more then one Shepard, if its not that exactly.
It's sci fi, so many possibilities going by everything that is possible in this series. Until we hear official word as to what was really intended and were it's going from here we wont know for sure.
OdanUrr wrote...
--snip--
Remember, ME3 was supposed to be released on November 2011 and ended up being released on March 2012. Clearly this delay didn't help the endings one bit. I'm actually wondering what the delay was all about.
DEMIKLY wrote...
The ground work laid has achieved it's goal, to provoke thought and entice argument and emotion.
The next content, if delivered properly, will be a pioneer style of delivering not only a story in video games, but an experience - evoking the full range of fan emotion in the process:
happiness->confusion->sadness->rage-> intrigue->excitement->elation->satisfaction.
Again, this isn't stated directly by BW, but is the step that makes the most sense story/lore wise and is firmly hinted at by the devs in their various Twitter feeds, blogs and posts. Good times ahead, makes this Volus smile under his suit
I wouldn't call it well played just yet. More like a crazy gamble at best - assuming this fan reaction was truly intentional and an ending DLC is really on the way. The rage has been really really bad... I won't applaud until I see clear evidence that the Dev/Fan relationship has been fully repaired.DEMIKLY wrote...
Took me an hour or so to realise what was what, but when when it hit me... I clapped.
Looking forward to it.. and I must say - the deliberate outcry provication was extremely well played, risky.. but well played.
Rage/Internet Tsunami will prove a brilliant catalyst for the Awakening.
I should go.
I agree, the rage has been fast and/or furious ; the need for quality and quantity in next step delivery is paramount.Locutus_of_BORG wrote...
I wouldn't call it well played just yet. More like a crazy gamble at best - assuming this fan reaction was truly intentional and an ending DLC is really on the way. The rage has been really really bad... I won't applaud until I see clear evidence that the Dev/Fan relationship has been fully repaired.DEMIKLY wrote...
Took me an hour or so to realise what was what, but when when it hit me... I clapped.
Looking forward to it.. and I must say - the deliberate outcry provication was extremely well played, risky.. but well played.
Rage/Internet Tsunami will prove a brilliant catalyst for the Awakening.
I should go.
Although I see where you're coming from, I really have to disagree with the above statement.RaenImrahl wrote...
The rather (long-winded) point is that there's really no evidence to extrapolate conclusions based on what we observed at the end of the game. All we can agree on, really, is that it wasn't enough. I have no insider knowledge, but I would guess (not theorize!) that the developers will address this in some way. "Indoctrination" may be an option. Other, story-based DLC that helps set up the ending(s) might be another. Adding a epilogue that moves away from the 2001-ish (film version) ending, something similar to the first Dragon Age, might also work.
Modifié par RaenImrahl, 16 mars 2012 - 11:47 .
I TV Casualty I wrote...
WARNING: THIS POST WILL CONTAIN ENDING SPOILERS.Although I see where you're coming from, I really have to disagree with the above statement.RaenImrahl wrote...
The rather (long-winded) point is that there's really no evidence to extrapolate conclusions based on what we observed at the end of the game. All we can agree on, really, is that it wasn't enough. I have no insider knowledge, but I would guess (not theorize!) that the developers will address this in some way. "Indoctrination" may be an option. Other, story-based DLC that helps set up the ending(s) might be another. Adding a epilogue that moves away from the 2001-ish (film version) ending, something similar to the first Dragon Age, might also work.
Even if you throw out all of the pseudo-facts surrounding Indoc Theory (of which there are enough to convince me regardless), you are still left with two very damning pieces of evidence:
Modifié par RaenImrahl, 16 mars 2012 - 11:50 .
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