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[OdanUrr]

DEMIKLY wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Foulpancake wrote...

And who's to say that should IT be correct that you would not get those original endings as choices anyhow? Nothing needs to be deleted, only the option to have our choices MATTER be added. Keep your 3 flavors of vanilla if you want them. If i had a Paragon shepard with no LI, i just might willingly choose Blue or Green and be happy with the outcome as it is now. But as it turns out i was fighting for someone...

1) I dont know. What part of my post made you think that I was saying IT obliterated those endings? I just said that people are trying to use IT to explain those endings, mostly because they're having a hard time accepting them.

2) Read 1. Also comes off as a bit condescending.

3) So?

Again, wrong end of the stick.

I invite you into the blue hue of the Indoctrination... the light is warm, and so is the Ryncol.

Do we need to keep this up? You're going to keep saying, "wrong end of the stick" and I'll just say "people grasping at straws." The difference being I can readily admit IT being one possible ending/explanation but not the only one. Who's indoctrinated I wonder?

[IST]

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Modifié par DEMIKLY, 17 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[IST]

OdanUrr wrote...

DEMIKLY wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Foulpancake wrote...

And who's to say that should IT be correct that you would not get those original endings as choices anyhow? Nothing needs to be deleted, only the option to have our choices MATTER be added. Keep your 3 flavors of vanilla if you want them. If i had a Paragon shepard with no LI, i just might willingly choose Blue or Green and be happy with the outcome as it is now. But as it turns out i was fighting for someone...

1) I dont know. What part of my post made you think that I was saying IT obliterated those endings? I just said that people are trying to use IT to explain those endings, mostly because they're having a hard time accepting them.

2) Read 1. Also comes off as a bit condescending.

3) So?

Again, wrong end of the stick.

I invite you into the blue hue of the Indoctrination... the light is warm, and so is the Ryncol.

Do we need to keep this up? You're going to keep saying, "wrong end of the stick" and I'll just say "people grasping at straws." The difference being I can readily admit IT being one possible ending/explanation but not the only one. Who's indoctrinated I wonder?

Me! I've been trying to tell you!

Haha.. I get where you are at, and I'm not trying to be a dick or anything resembling one, I guess I would like to know your other explanations.

Genuine Interest : Can you give other explanations for the ending please :happy:

[inblack]

move on guys  nothing to see here

[IST]

Thanks for the heads up - was about to loiter.

[gabewpashere]

You figured it out in an hour? My eye was twitching for an hour. I need more sleep.

[Rusty0918]

DEMILKY's points have some major merit. There are youtube videos that give compelling reasons that support the indoctrination theory, and that the "endings" we got are not the true ones.

[IST]

gabewpashere wrote...

You figured it out in an hour? My eye was twitching for an hour. I need more sleep.

hahaha.. mine was too.. for at least 15 minutes post credits.. I couldn't move, just kind of screwed my face up in disbelief.. looking left and right for answers from my walls.. , then had a burst of what I call rage fuelled internet discovery.. and yeah, the twitch went away after that thank the gods.. 

[Drake-Shepard]

Demikly...where are these twitter hints...i;v been out of the away for a few hours and now i feel like i am out of the loop.

If these Dev's are giving me a false sense of hope with these 'keep your save file' posts and release a dlc that is not a continuation of the end (IT) i will flip.

Also did you notice...when you finish your game and wait for all the credits and cutscenes....it takes you back to just before you start the point of no return (cerberus HQ).

Why would they do this...there are auto saves several times and 2 planets between this and the end. Is it so we can play it again for a pesky ever so slightly ending different cut-scene?

Or is it to make sure you can beat the indoctrination b'cos a ending dlc was planned ( you do not have the destroy reaper option if you have low EMS and if you did Not destroy the collector base)

hmmm

[Ruin44]

"You should've acted! They're already here! The hints told of their return. Their defeat was merely a delay. For the time after the game was finished, when the fans of Bioware would spill their own blood. But no one wanted to believe, believe they even existed. And when the truth finaly dawned... IT DAWNS IN FIRE!"

- I might be mistaken but isn't this what's going on right now?

[Drake-Shepard]

lol

[IST]

Drake-Shepard wrote...

Demikly...where are these twitter hints...i;v been out of the away for a few hours and now i feel like i am out of the loop.

If these Dev's are giving me a false sense of hope with these 'keep your save file' posts and release a dlc that is not a continuation of the end (IT) i will flip.

Also did you notice...when you finish your game and wait for all the credits and cutscenes....it takes you back to just before you start the point of no return (cerberus HQ).

Why would they do this...there are auto saves several times and 2 planets between this and the end. Is it so we can play it again for a pesky ever so slightly ending different cut-scene?

Or is it to make sure you can beat the indoctrination b'cos a ending dlc was planned ( you do not have the destroy reaper option if you have low EMS and if you did Not destroy the collector base)

hmmm

Good point Drake Shep... hmm, never really thought about the point in the game the post-endgame starts you.. why would you get to just before the point of no-return if end-DLC wasn't the plan - that's all that's left from there, another tick in the mountain of ticked boxes in favour of IT and the continuation DLC.

Re: the twitter feeds, the @mikegamble and @masseffect feeds are the ones to watch, they have pretty much said (without saying outright of course) that there is post ending DLC along with MP content on the way, one recent quote (from @Masseffect) was "the fan base reaction would be completely different if they knew what was in store"

I don't think it's just wishful thinking anymore, it's more a matter of when will they announce, and when will they drop it.. I reckon they can't leave it too long, otherwise it may backfire and make BW look like bigger a**holes (instead of SciFi masters if timed properly). 

Let's hope that space magic isn't a factor in the DLC... although, a Reaper magician does have a nice ring to it. 

[Kaiol_]

I love the Indoctrination theory too, it's awesome to think that is Bioware this clever?

[IST]

I firmly believe so, but each to their own.. well, until the DLC drops, then I guess we were right... (jokes IT haters, keep on hating) lulz.

[1337Goblin]

Hudson said he wanted the ending to be something people talk about and don''t forget.
A game that finished with a subtle 'to be continued' that left fans in uproar only for Bioware to release the real, awesome ending would certainly cut it.

That... or it'll be 'remembered' for being one of the worst endings to a game series thus far. /shrug
I trust Bioware, though.

[OdanUrr]

DEMIKLY wrote...

I firmly believe so, but each to their own.. well, until the DLC drops, then I guess we were right... (jokes IT haters, keep on hating) lulz.

Unless it comes out as free DLC it'll be remembered as the greatest troll in gaming history.

[IST]

1337Goblin wrote...

Hudson said he wanted the ending to be something people talk about and don''t forget.
A game that finished with a subtle 'to be continued' that left fans in uproar only for Bioware to release the real, awesome ending would certainly cut it.

That... or it'll be 'remembered' for being one of the worst endings to a game series thus far. /shrug
I trust Bioware, though.

Exactly : These are smart guys here.. Mass Effect is an extremely well thought out series, and the signs are all there for people to acknowledge regarding the Indoctrinated Theory and the continuation of the fight.. some people however like to label this as "Wishful Thinking" and right it off.  This is mostly out of dissappointment and sheer emotion, and a lot of people obviously would rather (try) to move on (by writing off DLC ideas and IT), than look at the evidence on the table and make an informed judgement.  I don't blame these people, I was raged out too after finishing.. but once you have seen the light, you really can appreciate everything for what it is, and look forward to the what's next... it's all about logic, evidence and what's already been  stated by the developers online regarding it all.. It's just too much for some to consider right now, which is fine - once the dust settles, then the path will be visible once more.

The foundation has been laid for one of the best twists in gaming history.. so you have to ask yourself: do you really think Casey Hudson wants this Mass Effect trilogy to be remembered as a viciously hated franchise that shot itself in the crouch for no apparent reason at all.. or a legendary piece of Sci Fi genius - sucessfully Indoctrinating it's own fan base before hitting them with a Thaix cannon of awesome that will be talked about right into the next generation of gaming.. 

You be the judge. 

Modifié par DEMIKLY, 18 mars 2012 - 04:28 .

[CoTr]

If IT is true then it's still to be seen whether it will be a free DLC or something unlocked on the disk with a patch. The only justification I'm ready to accept is giving players worldwide a chance to finish the game.

I won't clap anyway, because the move is insensitive towards the fans and the real ending could have been added from start, if BEA doesn't intend to cash in.

BTW, if BEA's intention was indeed to give players the IT ending, then they most likely wouldn't want to let people who don't have internet connection out in the cold, right? Shipping the game already with the ending unlocked would create same impact as when they release it later on. It would be even better considering the negative impact current ending has on average player.

Modifié par CoTr, 18 mars 2012 - 05:02 .

[Drake-Shepard]

DEMIKLY wrote...

1337Goblin wrote...

Hudson said he wanted the ending to be something people talk about and don''t forget.
A game that finished with a subtle 'to be continued' that left fans in uproar only for Bioware to release the real, awesome ending would certainly cut it.

That... or it'll be 'remembered' for being one of the worst endings to a game series thus far. /shrug
I trust Bioware, though.

Exactly : These are smart guys here.. Mass Effect is an extremely well thought out series, and the signs are all there for people to acknowledge regarding the Indoctrinated Theory and the continuation of the fight.. some people however like to label this as "Wishful Thinking" and right it off.  This is mostly out of dissappointment and sheer emotion, and a lot of people obviously would rather (try) to move on (by writing off DLC ideas and IT), than look at the evidence on the table and make an informed judgement.  I don't blame these people, I was raged out too after finishing.. but once you have seen the light, you really can appreciate everything for what it is, and look forward to the what's next... it's all about logic, evidence and what's already been  stated by the developers online regarding it all.. It's just too much for some to consider right now, which is fine - once the dust settles, then the path will be visible once more.

The foundation has been laid for one of the best twists in gaming history.. so you have to ask yourself: do you really think Casey Hudson wants this Mass Effect trilogy to be remembered as a viciously hated franchise that shot itself in the crouch for no apparent reason at all.. or a legendary piece of Sci Fi genius - sucessfully Indoctrinating it's own fan base before hitting them with a Thaix cannon of awesome that will be talked about right into the next generation of gaming.. 

You be the judge. 

Even after his latest cryptic statement i have hope.

I am pretty sure in an interview he said (or another rep) you would be given full closure and no A,B,C ending.
Indoc ending as brilliant as it is..is an A= you picked the wrong choice so you are indoctrinated or B= you fought off the indoctrination, ending

Thus i am expecting a planned dlc ending. Otherwise he lied when selling us something.... thats against trading standards isn't it? well it is in the UK atleast

[armandojaimecisneros]

man some spoilers would be nice

[AyatoSilvermane]

The only reason I don't subscribe to the hallcination/indoctrination interpretation of the ending is because the obvious implication of that would be that Bioware/EA knowingly released a game which wasn't finished. That is far worse then Day 1 DLC and Content Locking, least to the used game market. How do you price a game which doesn't include the games ending? How does EA reason that the games true ending isn't necessarily important to the overall game itself. How can we trust EA/Bioware to release games in the future, only after they have been complete?

It's not just risky, its PR suicide. Alot of people wouldn't be able to trust EA after such a stunt.

Modifié par AyatoSilvermane, 18 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[Vincent Rosevalliant]

Modifié par Vincent Rosevalliant, 18 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[ziloe]

Thetri wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Awakening. A new expansion pack where you play as the Orlesian Shepard of the Spectres.

HA! 

[OdanUrr]

Vincent Rosevalliant wrote...

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

Here's some proof for ya

And that is proof of what exactly?

[IST]

OdanUrr wrote...

Vincent Rosevalliant wrote...

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

Here's some proof for ya

And that is proof of what exactly?

It seems, proof of misunderstanding the tweet one was replying to.. 
There's a bunch of the @Masseffect official twitter statements that hint at what's to come here

Modifié par DEMIKLY, 18 mars 2012 - 05:27 .