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[Welsh Inferno]

comrade gando wrote...

She diesnt look too human.

She IS A HUMAN in this picture. Talk about uncanny valley since she has 3 fingers and 3 toes, honestly I think her looking anything close to human is just creepy.

As to that 3D portrait Ive been seeing floating around, that is 100% acceptable for her appearance.

+1

Could you link me to this 3D portrait? Don't think I have seen it.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 28 mars 2012 - 07:43 .

[Rain Gunji]

That fan rendering of the in game photo is excellent! I would have taken that and ran with it... but alas it jut wasn't that way... oh well...

[comrade gando]

Sry cant link actual image

http://nebezial.devi...in-3d-290554560

[Welsh Inferno]

comrade gando wrote...

Sry cant link actual image

http://nebezial.devi...in-3d-290554560

Oh right yeah that. Seen it, thought you ment someone made a 3D model of the BW one. But yeah I like that too.

[Atomic Space Vixen]

Based on what we normally see of quarian bodies, making her look as human as they did stinks of fan service in the worst way (I don't think fan service in and of itself is a bad thing and can actually be a good thing, but done poorly it can make no sense).

[comrade gando]

Alas this is where I understand where bioware has a difficult time regarding her face. Seems the fans are split between more alien/ more human.

Personally I think it makes the most sense for it to be more alien, it is consistent with her body (backwards legs 3 fingers etc.). Sort of reminds me o avatar where neytiri was conventionally attractive but far from human. Looks like a sign of good character design to me.

[The Smitchens]

moater boat wrote...

No, she looks entirely too human, Grunt mentioned that Humans and Asari are "soft" but Turians and Quarians "not so much" I think she should have had skin closer to Turians and a very skinny face.

That was a reference to the suit.  Their suits are very durable and don't rupture easily.

Besides.  Over time it'll get tweaked like Jill Valentine's has been through the Resident Evil series.

[Rune-Chan]

I don't care that it's a stock photo, I care that it was so lazily edited.

[Thanan0980]

I would have been happy with a 3d reveal the picture, no don't really care where the picture came from should have been a real reveal honestly it was the only part of the game that actually pissed me off

[tobiasks]

Scalpels wrote...

http://fc09.devianta...on9-d4sysjb.jpg

I actually really like this. The only issue I have is bioware being lazy, but I still like the picture.

Modifié par tobiasks, 28 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[TeaKae421]

I probably still wouldn't have liked it, because she looks too human, I know this has been argued over for 11 pages now, but I saw her and just thought "that isn't Tali."

It would have been less annoying had it been an original concept or whatever, but that it was a stock photo really pisses me off, because it'd have been incredibly simple to do this right.

[Fliprot]

Zardoc wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

hawt

This is what I expected to see in the actual game.

[Vaemer-Riit]

The Smitchens wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

IMAGE

I think one of the reasons I have such a hard time picturing that as Tali is because the suit is completely different.  It doesn't resemble any quarian's suit remotely, let alone Tali's more unique suit.  It's very well done, but if someone hadn't told me it was an interpretation of Tali I would have never guessed.

The other one floating around of her with just the visor taken off looks way more believable if only because the suit is there and flat out says "this is Tali.  Who else else could it be?"

That image is a rendering bassed on a earlier piece the artist's wife did. Because of the perspective it is hard to see but the suite in the image is very similar to the one Tali wears in the 2nd game minus the hood.

[Risselda]

Wouldnt have minded it if they actually made it viewable in game as a 3d model.

Bioware DID do work on her face, I have seen the concept art page for potential quarian faces. So the stock photo thing doesnt bother me. What bothers me is that "thats it."

[Messier87]

lillitheris wrote...

Messier87 wrote...

It's already been established that quarians share the closest resemblance to humans out of all the galaxy's species.

Closest ≠ close. (Necessarily.)

This is what I was referring to:

Quarians are generally shorter and of slighter build than humans. Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which include a thumb, an index finger, and a long finger, similar to the middle fingers for humans, as well as three toes on each foot. Quarian facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans in physical appearance. Their lower legs are bowed backwards significantly, compared to asari or humans. Aside from hands and legs, their general body shape and sexual dimorphism is similar to humans. Their ears or ear analogues differ in a noticeable fashion from those of humans, with references made to "what [passes] for the quarian version of an ear".

However, I pulled up a cached version of the text (dated before the ME3 launch) and I realized the bold sentence was added in response to Tali's photo. The rest of the paragraph is a summarization of page 235 in Mass Effect: Ascension.

I'll admit my bias then. I always pictured quarians closely resembling humans after reading a decent explanation a couple of years ago: quarians are "mammal analogues" that acquired human-like biological traits through convergent evolution. With that explanation as a basis, and seeing Tali's face for the first time... she fits what I had imagined. 

I still stand by my opinion: I like the way she looks. The source being a stock photo is a trivial issue. I could nitpick and say that her hand is not accurate, but what matters to me the most is how her face reveal was limited to a photoshopped image. I definitely would have preferred to see her face modeled and animated in 3D.

[Diablos2525]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 I certainly would have liked it more. It actually looks really nice. But the fact that this is just a photoshop from google makes me cringe.

I didn't mind the look, I just think it was a little bit lazy, moreso because they modeled Diana Allers into the game but not Tali. I don't mind her being humanoid with less fingers and glowy eyes. I just wanted to see her in-game face.

[Messier87]

Diablos2525 wrote...

I didn't mind the look, I just think it was a little bit lazy, moreso because they modeled Diana Allers into the game but not Tali. I don't mind her being humanoid with less fingers and glowy eyes. I just wanted to see her in-game face.

This, as well. A misallocation of resources considering Allers' reception.

[gmboy902]

Definitely. BioWare created the Mass Effect universe. I've yet to see many mainstream inspirations for turian faces. Why couldn't they be creative enough to give a unique face to their own creation?

That being said, I would have preffered she remained the mystery behind the mask. Just like giving the Reapers a purpose (and a logically invalid, simple one at that) to destroy life, I don't like how BioWare took the mystery out of Mass Effect.

[FatalX7.0]

Luc0s wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

People on this forum keep using the word "alien" as though it automatically suggests form. It's complete horse****! They don't know what the word alien means. 

No, YOU don't know what alien means. YOU don't know why being an alien DOES say something about the form. YOU don't understand that the odds of an extraterrestrial life to look just like us is simply non-existent.

Read this and feel yourself getting educated. After that, come back and tell me if you sitll think that being an alien doesn't mean that you have to look alien too.

Alien means foreign, strange, an outside of a group, etc.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 29 mars 2012 - 02:33 .

[Painaid]

 Yes, i would have been fine with it. I just really wanted to see what BioWare's imagination was for Tali's face. Some might compain it was too human, but that didn't bother me. I thought it fit her voice. But the fact it was a stockphoto just implies how incredibly lazy BioWare is. It's just a disservice to the fans.

[BigZ7337]

This is how we should have seen Tali's face, even if they wanted to use the current concept/design, it would have just been so powerful:



http://blog.ivyeleme...el-like-bioware

Modifié par BigZ7337, 29 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[TheLostGenius]

THey should have taken a pic of a Cow's butt with an iPhone, that would have been the winner.

[Su37]

I'd rather just keep it the way it is, honestly.