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[Peranor]

Sir_Cabbage wrote...

I hated the fact they made it a photo rather then a model WAYYYY before I found out the photo was stock- finding out it was stock was the final straw

Yeah. It all just feel so lazy. Its like they forgot about her face and had to add something quick in the last minutes of development. 
And stock image or not. She still looks way too human.

And why oh why didn't they choose the moment on Rannoch as the "face reveal moment"?? It would have been perfect.

[Clumsy Astronaut]

I was always a supporter of not showing her face at all, because it would always dissapoint a decent chunk of people) but at least I get to leave it on my nightstand and never look at it again.

[Omega Torsk]

In all honesty, I kind of wish that Tali (or rather, all quarians) would have appeared more alien, but with just enough human elements to be physically attractive (This picture came the closest to my "headcanon" version).

Although, I am... okay with Bioware's design. Just okay. It's something I can get used to and possibly accept one day. However, their execution (ie: mad photoshop skillz on a stock image) was just disappointing!

Of course, Tali's face is small potatoes. Thanks to the ending, we now have bigger fish to fry.

[Shallyah]

I don't dislike what Bioware gave us for Tali's face. Stock photo or not, if that's the concept they have for Quarians, and more specifically Tali, I'm fine with it.

There's some awesome fanart out there, some of which has been posted in this thread. About anything would have worked, because as Talimancer I am it wasn't her appearance what really mattered to me.

Bioware says that picture we got is Canon for Tali's appearance? Sure, I'll roll with it. I just hope to get an ingame model of it at some point.

[Peranor]

Omega Torsk wrote...

In all honesty, I kind of wish that Tali (or rather, all quarians) would have appeared more alien, but with just enough human elements to be physically attractive (This picture came the closest to my "headcanon" version).

Although, I am... okay with Bioware's design. Just okay. It's something I can get used to and possibly accept one day. However, their execution (ie: mad photoshop skillz on a stock image) was just disappointing!

Of course, Tali's face is small potatoes. Thanks to the ending, we now have bigger fish to fry.

So that was their plan all along? Mess up the ending so badly that people forget about the bad photoshop job they did on Talis face? =)

[Ossborn76]

It´s been posted already (page 1, by Darthlawsuit).... that´s my headcanon Tali.

And as I am familiar with Photoshop... I just think that the Bioware picture was a lazy 5-10 minutes job with not much effort... I´m very disappointed about it

[foxlockbox]

Never been a big Tali fan but I find myself dissapointed too. I always expected them to be more alien looking, whats the point in the big mystery if they're basicly human? I love Mass Effect races, but Bioware seems to lack imagination here, so I'm gonna rant a bit.

The reason why most established sci-fi series have very humanoid races is because they're old, and they got budget limits. In Mass Effect they didn't take this route expect for maybe Asari. It takes same amount of work to model non-human races, I'd say its bit more sketchy with humans themselves because they didn't bother adding diversity to the non-human races. That kinda bothers me. Turian females anyone? Yeah hard to imagine them any different so don't bother putting the in the games! Leave some comic artist to pull some half assed version of them.
Salarian females? Like male salarians but always hooded! Well thats kinda believeable given their insectoid background.
Krogan females? Same build, but hide the face so we can slack off!
Asari? Blue females with tentacle hair, sex appeal race here.

Now then, back to quarians. All they had to do to add more diversity to the excisting organic races was to establish Tali as more alien, but still appealing to your basic human. Why? Because you don't have to show any other quarians unmasked! That DOES NOT mean you make them look like almost exactly human expect for the fingers and feet.

Damn it, I refuse to believe every advanced life form is either human looking or that the genders lookvery similar, that just doesn't seem believeable. But that is understandable for older sci-fi with racially "diverse" galaxies. But for a game? Use your imagination Bioware! Oh well too late for that now, and I do love the races, but at the same time the oppoturnities wasted with them nag me.

Modifié par foxlockbox, 28 mars 2012 - 09:58 .

[Zaxares]

I don't mind the way Tali looks (minus her hand), but I do agree that her face feels "lazy". It looks far too human and really strains my suspension of disbelief. In a galaxy filled with diverse alien races, having the asari already have human-like facial features was unusual enough, but for the quarians to ALSO look human? I would have preferred that the artists had taken the time to craft Tali a uniquely "alien" face like those displayed in the artbook. If she ended up looking hideous by human standards, so be it. Those of us who are Tali-fans love her for her personality, her spirit and her good heart, not for how she looks. If some of her fans discard her just because she happened to turn out ugly, then I say that they never truly loved her. They were only in love with an ideal of her.

As far as the face reveal itself, I too would have preferred it to be done in-person as opposed to a picture in the cabin, but I can better understand this decision. Creating a whole separate facial model just for Tali might be too time-consuming when you're already on a strict budget.

[Irx]

Shallyah wrote...

Bioware says that picture we got is Canon for Tali's appearance? Sure, I'll roll with it. I just hope to get an ingame model of it at some point.

This. I'm ok with any design, but I want a real character model. That photoshop is just too lazy.

[Irx]

Zaxares wrote...

As far as the face reveal itself, I too would have preferred it to be done in-person as opposed to a picture in the cabin, but I can better understand this decision. Creating a whole separate facial model just for Tali might be too time-consuming when you're already on a strict budget.

Oh come on, they did have time to make 3-4 unique armors per character, and most secondary and new characters have unique models - how come Tali, who's one of the fan favorites, does not deserve a face model?

[Deventh]

MrPuschel wrote...



Left image: Artist from deviantart who did it in his free time. Right: Bioware artist who got paid for this

Is it wrong that i like the one on the right more? Actually a lot more...

[ShinAnubisXIII]

There are so many good Fanartworks out there and Bioware is using a Google stock photo... And then it's a poorly executed photoshop job. A human hand 'cut' in half. You can still see the third knuckle. Rannoch, or at least the area we were, doesn't have green meadows like this. And the sun is waaaay to bright. That, plus the clothing clearly isn't Tali's... >.<

[edit] 'raging' about the stock photo but forgot my opinion. Yes I would. If Bioware truly MUST use an edited photo, they should take an appropriate picture of Liz/Ash Sroka at the very least since she's Tali's voice actor.

In the end however, I'd have prefered a 3D ingame model not just a photo.

Modifié par Shin-Anubis, 28 mars 2012 - 10:54 .

[uzivatel]

I did not see it in the game, thus I can easily pretend it does not exist or its just BioWare trolling Tali fans...

Anyway, whats the real story behind the picture? last minute addition? forgotten placeholder? fired artists revenge?

[Sundance31us]

Personally I saw it as an opportunity to mod the (PC version) of the game.

[Capthon]

Frankly, I like the official one too. But the photoshop job was a bit disappointing. So I took the half an hour to tweak the pic a bit ...

Modifié par Capthon, 28 mars 2012 - 11:08 .

[CroGamer002]

No.

It's still lazy made and really lame.

[Whereto]

You know what. If they revealed tali's face in game or with a bit more effort- even if I didn't like it- I would of supported bioware. Now I just don't, as it was lazy.

[elarem]

No. The trouble with Tali's face in ME3 is that it is too human and a bad manipulation of the original photo.

I really wanted an alien in keeping with the Quarian's hands, legs and feet, as well as sharing a biochemistry similar to Turians not a space elf or someone so human.

[FatalX7.0]

Neizd wrote...

It's not bad, but too human looking and lazy done. If it was on 3d model I would say it's ok to accept, but nothing epic. Would rather see this:

http://th01.devianta...ial-d4szlc0.jpg

It's supposed to look human.

Quarian facial structure is very similar to humans.

As good as that picture is, it's not human enough to be a Quarian.

[Berty213]

Although it was lazy of Bioware to use a photoshop picture, I like it and I am very happy she turned out this way

[iamthedave3]

I find it to be cowardly, and I understand why many of the Talimancers feel offended.

It's like Bioware didn't think we could handle seeing a non-human face behind that mask.

Personally, I find it impossible to believe, for this reason: The shape of the Geth's heads.

When people build humanoid robots, they build them in their own image, because that's what they think a humanoid looks like. There is NO reason for the Geth's heads to be shaped the way they are unless the Quarian's own heads have a similar (thought obviously not as pronounced) appearance. I always imagined them to be oblong, basically. The white eyes seemed kind of obvious.

[arthurhallam]

Capthon wrote...

Frankly, I like the official one too. But the photoshop job was a bit disappointing. So I took the half an hour to tweak the pic a bit ...

The image they chose is perfect. It's almost exactly how I imagined the Quarians to look. 

The one everybody keeps posting with the awful, severe head is just not Tali. 

People on this forum keep using the word "alien" as though it automatically suggests form. It's complete horse****! They don't know what the word alien means. 

[Saul Iscariot]

Tali didn't have a face reveal as she died in ME2.

[FatalX7.0]

iamthedave3 wrote...

I find it to be cowardly, and I understand why many of the Talimancers feel offended.

It's like Bioware didn't think we could handle seeing a non-human face behind that mask.

Personally, I find it impossible to believe, for this reason: The shape of the Geth's heads.

When people build humanoid robots, they build them in their own image, because that's what they think a humanoid looks like. There is NO reason for the Geth's heads to be shaped the way they are unless the Quarian's own heads have a similar (thought obviously not as pronounced) appearance. I always imagined them to be oblong, basically. The white eyes seemed kind of obvious.

Or, it's already been established that Quarians have very human facial structure.

Oh, it has.

[Cribbian]

Can't believe they missed the chance to show her face at Rannoch. It would have been perfect, perfect I say.