285 réponses à ce sujet

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I don't care. Honestly all the rhubarb about Tali's appearance is counter to the entire point of her character. It was never about her appearance, rather it was exactly contrary to that. It was the writing and her personality that made her stand out from the sea of giant-breasted superhero models.

On the other side of the coin, Hammasa Kohistani is a good match for the basic shape of Tali's face (straight nose, strong cheekbones, same eye shape, etc.) so I don't at all mind the choice of her as Tali's facial model.

[wicked_being]

I don't like it but I don't hate it. I think a lot of people are disappointed because...well this "design" came out of nowhere. We saw several concept art for Tali and this wasn't one of them. Instead we get Hammasa Kohistani's edited pic, there's nothing original about it, it's just lazy.

[The Real Bowser]

I would have liked it more if I got to see Tali's actual face on an ingame model.

edit: lol that I typoed the heart smiley face when meaning to hit submit.  It was really appropriate, maybe I shouldn't have editted it out.

Modifié par The Real Bowser, 28 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[FatalX7.0]

wicked_being wrote...

I don't like it but I don't hate it. I think a lot of people are disappointed because...well this "design" came out of nowhere. We saw several concept art for Tali and this wasn't one of them. Instead we get Hammasa Kohistani's edited pic, there's nothing original about it, it's just lazy.

That concept art was never meant to be a definitive design.

Even though it's a photoshopped picture, it's a pretty accurate representation of a Quarian, based on their established biology.

Quarians are generally shorter and of slighter build than humans.
Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids
and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which
include a thumb, an index finger, and a long finger, similar to the
middle fingers for humans, as well as three toes on each foot. Quarian
facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans
in physical appearance. Their lower legs are bowed backwards
significantly, compared to asari
or humans. Aside from hands and legs, their general body shape and
sexual dimorphism is similar to humans. Their ears or ear analogues
differ in a noticeable fashion from those of humans, with references
made to "what [passes] for the quarian version of an ear".

[iamthedave3]

'what passes for the quarian version of an ear' looks suspiciously like a human version of an ear from where I'm sitting.

Also, I'm impressed that Tali's hair manages to stay so vibrant despite being trapped inside an environmental suit for her entire life. They must have special hair care programs.

Modifié par iamthedave3, 28 mars 2012 - 11:36 .

[Shallyah]

Quarian facial structure and hair actually makes them the most similar to humans in physical appearance.

This again, just for emphasis.

If you expected Quarians to be more alien, then you didn't know what Quarians really are.

Whether it makes sense or not is another debate. Quarians were always meant to look very similar to humans, even moreso than Asari.

Modifié par Shallyah, 28 mars 2012 - 11:37 .

[FatalX7.0]

iamthedave3 wrote...

'what passes for the quarian version of an ear' looks suspiciously like a human version of an ear from where I'm sitting.

Looking at the Tali photo and the original stock photo, there is a big difference in the ears.

No earlobe, more stretched upwards, thinner.

[rebeltube]

I don't care if she's butt ugly... as long as they made an effort doing it

Modifié par rebeltube, 28 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[Flextt]

To be honest, they should have made a full face model when Tali took off her mask on Rannoch. It would have been the ultimate reward achieving peace.

Instead, a picture is taken from getty images, badly photoshopped and taken as a low resolution substitute. It is pretty low imho.

[tabulius]

One powerful thing Bioware could have done with the face reveal, is the first eye contact. I mean we as players have never seen Tali's face and the emotional impact in Rannoch would be so much greater when we would have seen Tali look at Shepard with tears in her eyes. First eye contact, big emotional scene.

[plated84]

What strikes me as odd and i may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in the ps3 version of mass effect 2 you can see her eyes and a outline of her nose and cheekbones. Why they just didn't build off of that is confounding to say the least. I mean they had most of her face modeled at that point.

[FatalX7.0]

I still think that Tali's face should have been an option.

It would be like a Paragon interrupt or you can choose it through the dialogue wheel to either walk up to her, turn to her and look at her face, or just walk up behind and don't look at her face.

Either way, it should please both sides.

If you don't look at her face, you're free to imagine your own face for her in your game.

[Shallyah]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I still think that Tali's face should have been an option.

It would be like a Paragon interrupt or you can choose it through the dialogue wheel to either walk up to her, turn to her and look at her face, or just walk up behind and don't look at her face.

Either way, it should please both sides.

If you don't look at her face, you're free to imagine your own face for her in your game.

You have the option of not looking at her picture at your cabin...

Also, for all that say "this picture is my headcanon, not what Bioware showed": You can choose to imagine all you like -- make your own imaginary Mass Effect galaxy where Turians look like carebears and Krogan look like cheetahs or something. It still wouldn't change what is canon and the reality of it, however.

Modifié par Shallyah, 28 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[FatalX7.0]

Shallyah wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

I still think that Tali's face should have been an option.

It would be like a Paragon interrupt or you can choose it through the dialogue wheel to either walk up to her, turn to her and look at her face, or just walk up behind and don't look at her face.

Either way, it should please both sides.

If you don't look at her face, you're free to imagine your own face for her in your game.

You have the option of not looking at her picture at your cabin...

Also, for all that say "this picture is my headcanon, not what Bioware showed": You can choose to imagine all you like -- make your own imaginary Mass Effect galaxy where Turians look like carebears and Krogan look like cheetahs or something. It still wouldn't change what is canon and the reality of it, however.

[Shallyah]

But it IS an option.

You want to see her face, examine the picture.

You don't want to see her face, don't examine the picture.


If you mean about an ingame model... well, I also want the option to see her ingame model face. Perhaps a DLC!

[FatalX7.0]

Shallyah wrote...

But it IS an option.

You want to see her face, examine the picture.

You don't want to see her face, don't examine the picture.


If you mean about an ingame model... well, I also want the option to see her ingame model face. Perhaps a DLC!

....


Never mind, I'm not gonna bother.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

My only regret about the way they did the Tali arc for Shepard is that you could never make a joke about her feet. I was sure they would've done an in-joke for that, considering that was the whole reason the devs nixed her as a LI in the first game.

[MattFini]

I'm not the biggest Tali fan. I like her just fine, but the infamous picture doesn't bother me.

I can certainly see why the hardcore Tali fans would be upset though - it is a very cheap way out that BioWare took.

[Capthon]

A DLC? With an extended scene on Rannoch? ...
I would appreciate that much.

But in the end it's like in Supertramp's song: Dreamer, you know you're a dreamer ...

;-)


EDIT:
arthurhallam absolutely agree.
But I'd have prefered a 3D ingame model over a photo to be honest (like the many who mentioned the Rannoch scene) ...

Modifié par Capthon, 28 mars 2012 - 11:59 .

[Shallyah]

DaftArbiter wrote...

My only regret about the way they did the Tali arc for Shepard is that you could never make a joke about her feet. I was sure they would've done an in-joke for that, considering that was the whole reason the devs nixed her as a LI in the first game.

Hey, her feet are fine.

Can't get any uglier than human's.

[Malchus]

I'm slightly disappointed that it was a stock photo with some PS slapped on it... I feel Bioware could have done much much more...

However, Tali's face isn't what made me like her character to begin with... so I'm alright with it...

[Renew81]

Iam no tali fan but the face reveal was kind of a big issue among fans
and i dont understand why bioware became so incredibly lazy to photoshop
a stock image in 60 seconds.

If they really claim what they say thy are , they would have made there OWN vision
of tali and made a model of it and would have shown her face in the cutscene where
she takes of here mask , simple either show her face , or not.

The picture was a disgrace , to fans of tali and to bioware themselfs.

[Irx]

Capthon wrote...

A DLC? With an extended scene on Rannoch? ...
I would appreciate that much.

That's probably the only type of dlc I'd gladly pay for after the ending fiasco.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Shallyah wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

My only regret about the way they did the Tali arc for Shepard is that you could never make a joke about her feet. I was sure they would've done an in-joke for that, considering that was the whole reason the devs nixed her as a LI in the first game.

Hey, her feet are fine.

Can't get any uglier than human's.

In the world of Mass Effect, Asari are supposed to be the "sexiest" race and their feet are exactly like human feet. Therefore, disagreed.

I just think a foot joke would've been a nice nod to poke at the fourth wall.

[Budgier]

I actually like Tali's look. I would have preferred more difference from humans, but it's not bad at all. The thing about it that's grinding everyone's gears is Biowares blatant laziness in dealing with a franchise favorite.