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Benrosan wrote...
DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
People please calm down there is no reason to get upset. One person filed a complaint with the FTC it's not worth fighting over. You have a better chance of getting struck by lighting tonight while riding a Zebra then EA does of getting into any trouble in court over this. there is no reason to fight.
QFT.
Lycius wrote...
CavScout wrote...
Lycius wrote...
Refusing to see the point makes you look dense.
Pretending this is not about a video game ending makes you look silly.
The product in question is a video game. Valid.
The complaint was because of a bait and switch with the product. Valid.
Just because the product in question is a game doesn't make it divinely protected, nor does it make a complaint invalid.
irishScott3 wrote...
Positronics wrote...
Silly fleet banners and obnoxious hold the line posts already makes the "CHANGE THE ENDINGS SO I LIKE IT" crowd seem stupid, but this just brought you guys into a whole new level.
Thank you for wasting my tax dollars on your butthurt-ness.
See? Irrational reactions like this guy are exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for discrediting the movement in the eyes of people we should be convincing.
That is an opinion.Persephone wrote...
It is NOT a bad product, for Christ's sake!
Modifié par MintyCool, 16 mars 2012 - 08:07 .
CavScout wrote...
El_Spiko wrote...
I hated the ending. They didn't change it when I
Well, I am unable to read the thread fast enough to keep up at this point. So let me just say again THIS IS NOT A LAWSUIT. it is a COMPLAINT, filed through official channels, and one made about SPECIFIC CLAIMS that EA/Bioware made in regards to the content of the game, specifically the end. I included specific statements made by the company and it's employees in their PR campaign about the content of there product, ones which seemingly grossly misrepresent the product in its current state. It has been a week and a half since release day with no response to consumer complaints about their misleading statements other than cryptic tweets, so I went through other civil , legal channels seek a response about specific false statements that were made. If you don't agree, fine, don't file a complaint yourself. I am not filing a complaint saying I was "unhappy" with the ending and it hurt my feelings so punish them; I filed a complaint saying they made misleading statements about specific content in the game and more specifically it's ending. If you still think that my going through appropriate channels to ask for some kind of accountability from EA/Bioware about the discrepencies between their specific statements (like the "it's not going to be a choose A,B, or C ending") and the released product, well then I guess I'm childish and so is everyone else who believes there should be some kind of accountability from companies in their marketing campaigns.
demanded it. So I filled out some web forms with a consumer and government
agency hoping they take me seriously and make them fix the ending.
Fixed!
RisingPhoenix913 wrote...
Ok...I just want to know..What exactly are you looking for here? What do you think will happen? Not flaming or trying to attack anyone. I'm honestly curious about your motives/hopes for an outcome.
Harbinger of Hope wrote...
Benrosan wrote...
DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...
People please calm down there is no reason to get upset. One person filed a complaint with the FTC it's not worth fighting over. You have a better chance of getting struck by lighting tonight while riding a Zebra then EA does of getting into any trouble in court over this. there is no reason to fight.
QFT.
Quoted for False.
IT ISN'T A GUDDAM COURT CASE!
S**t, people really are dense here.
Nyila wrote...
Gulkin wrote...
Nyila wrote...
I didn't know Bioware was rated so badly on BBB.
www.bbb.org/edmonton/business-reviews/computers-system-designers-and-consultants/bioware-in-edmonton-ab-111723
oh ****... an "F" that's pretty low... I should check more often this site. I think I could learn 1 or 2 things out there.
They're not BBB accredited though, so it doesn't mean much. I just had no idea their score was so low..
KMYash wrote...
CavScout wrote...
El_Spiko wrote...
I hated the ending. They didn't change it when I
Well, I am unable to read the thread fast enough to keep up at this point. So let me just say again THIS IS NOT A LAWSUIT. it is a COMPLAINT, filed through official channels, and one made about SPECIFIC CLAIMS that EA/Bioware made in regards to the content of the game, specifically the end. I included specific statements made by the company and it's employees in their PR campaign about the content of there product, ones which seemingly grossly misrepresent the product in its current state. It has been a week and a half since release day with no response to consumer complaints about their misleading statements other than cryptic tweets, so I went through other civil , legal channels seek a response about specific false statements that were made. If you don't agree, fine, don't file a complaint yourself. I am not filing a complaint saying I was "unhappy" with the ending and it hurt my feelings so punish them; I filed a complaint saying they made misleading statements about specific content in the game and more specifically it's ending. If you still think that my going through appropriate channels to ask for some kind of accountability from EA/Bioware about the discrepencies between their specific statements (like the "it's not going to be a choose A,B, or C ending") and the released product, well then I guess I'm childish and so is everyone else who believes there should be some kind of accountability from companies in their marketing campaigns.
demanded it. So I filled out some web forms with a consumer and government
agency hoping they take me seriously and make them fix the ending.
Fixed!
Okay then. Let me ask you this. What would have been acceptable to make a COMPLAINT to the BBB/FTC? I just want to know how far something has to be before you believe people are allowed to complain?
The link to that quote and others is in the original post.Harbinger of Hope wrote...
Hey, do you think you could post that quote from Mr. Hudson and the link to the article in the OP?
Akael_Bayn wrote...
Frankly, I'm amazed by the moral cowardice displayed by a lot of the people upset by this. You're all happy to sit here and complain on an internet forum owned by the people who wronged you, but you're angered by the thought of someone taking concrete action against the company? Afraid of making them "dig in their heels;" terrified that we're going to upset them - you sound like someone in an abusive relationship, terrified that your abuser is going to get pissed off by someone in a grocery store and take it out on you at home.
I feel pretty bad for you, but the only one who can help you out of the relationship is you.
Gulkin wrote...
irishScott3 wrote...
Positronics wrote...
Silly fleet banners and obnoxious hold the line posts already makes the "CHANGE THE ENDINGS SO I LIKE IT" crowd seem stupid, but this just brought you guys into a whole new level.
Thank you for wasting my tax dollars on your butthurt-ness.
See? Irrational reactions like this guy are exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for discrediting the movement in the eyes of people we should be convincing.
This is why this thread should die. Stop replying to it. By that I mean everyone who hates the end no matter if you approve or disapprove the OP.
pharsti wrote...
Always thought videogame developers were immune to things like that.
coloradosarge wrote...
The main issue is that the negative publicity from this WILL do more damage than any good that comes from filing an FTC and BBB compliant. At least at the current time.
El_Spiko wrote...
The link to that quote and others is in the original post.Harbinger of Hope wrote...
Hey, do you think you could post that quote from Mr. Hudson and the link to the article in the OP?
DemGeth wrote...
Game breaking bugs. Things that don't allow the game to be played. A defective product.
And even then software is 20 years behind any other product you can buy, so your looking at a min. 6 months of said product being broken before any complaints are even looked at/considered.
Modifié par KMYash, 16 mars 2012 - 08:13 .
DemGeth wrote...
Game breaking bugs. Things that don't allow the game to be played. A defective product.
And even then software is 20 years behind any other product you can buy, so your looking at a min. 6 months of said product being broken before any complaints are even looked at/considered.
Harbinger of Hope wrote...
RisingPhoenix913 wrote...
Ok...I just want to know..What exactly are you looking for here? What do you think will happen? Not flaming or trying to attack anyone. I'm honestly curious about your motives/hopes for an outcome.
He wanted to raise concerns about EA and by extension BioWares business practices and false advertising. Everyone here is getting their panties in a twist because they are being unbelievably dense and thinking this means he is trying to get a lawsuit going.
Because Space Magic.Harbinger of Hope wrote...
Ahhh, I see it now. You should still post this damning quote in the actual post. I mean, that is if any of these people even bother to actually read it and not just post some knee-jerk reaction.
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.”
Please, people, tell me how that is not false advertising?
Modifié par ZodiEmish, 16 mars 2012 - 08:13 .
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