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[DemGeth]

KMYash wrote...

DemGeth wrote...

KMYash wrote...

DemGeth wrote...

Game breaking bugs.  Things that don't allow the game to be played.  A defective product.

And even then software is 20 years behind any other product you can buy, so your looking at a min. 6 months of said product being broken before any complaints are even looked at/considered.  

Okay I can agree that these are reasons to complain to the FTC/BBB, but I think you're not factoring that SELLING PRACTICES also are rated by these groups. That's just product. 

Except there's nothing wrong with their selling practices.  That would be say charging 40 bucks for a game that needs an internet connection and not advertising that on the box

Your talking about marketing.  And they can say pretty much whatever they want in marketing the game that comes down to a subjective view.  ANYTHING.  

It's the same as seeing crap movie X advertised as the greatest thing since slice head.  "Will blow you away"  "Runaway Hit of the Year"  "You'll be left gasping"

Which is why BBB/FTC don't blindly act on just any one complaint. If for whatever reason either organization decided that they really wanted to look after these complaints (which I doubt) they would decide if there was substance to the complaints. And unless you work for either organization or happen to be lawyer in this part of the law I don't think you, or I, have the right to say that there is or isn't substance to the complaint. But OP as a paying customer of Bioware has every right to make complaint.

No it's just common knowledge.  Seriously.  Like I said the issue isn't the complaints filed as some other said they have.  The issue is a dellusional atmosphere in which thinking that these complaints mean something is prevelant.  

[PleaOfInsanity]

Skirata129 wrote...

Lycius wrote...

You're trolling based on the posts you've made in this thread. The bait and switch, if nothing else was the MP crap which they deny is required but not one person has been able to get 4k without. Unless you can show a screenshot, don't even bother claiming you can get 4k without MP.

Done with you.

I actually got 5900 on my playthrough single player only, but mine was also an ME1 and 2 import and I did pretty much every quest in the game.

Whay Lycius is speaking of is the final count not after Galactic Readiness Percentage is included. your score would have been around 2950 without playing MP.

[Persephone]

Lycius wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

The OP needs to stop this thread and delete his post. he is causing negitive press for the Retake mass Effect 3 movement.

www.gamepur.com/news/7426-fans-filing-ftc-complaints-against-ea-after-mass-effect-3-ending.html

This is should not be happening. It was a unthoughtout move by one person.

As if proof was needed that the game media was in the pockets of EA.

Yes, I am sure they have minions reading every single idiotic thread here. Just so they can go cry to the media.

[magnutz06]

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

[Nyila]

Lycius wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

The OP needs to stop this thread and delete his post. he is causing negitive press for the Retake mass Effect 3 movement.

www.gamepur.com/news/7426-fans-filing-ftc-complaints-against-ea-after-mass-effect-3-ending.html

This is should not be happening. It was a unthoughtout move by one person.

As if proof was needed that the game media was in the pockets of EA.

That's not an article from any "official" gaming website or magazine. Probably just a user from the BSN.

[GeneralArrow]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

It's an interview and not an advertisement.

Yes, it is.

Pretty much all pre-realese interviews are marketing.

Won't ever hold up as advertising. Interviews are not covered by the legal definition of false advertising and if they were the basis for it would be failure to disclose...what makes you think EA even needs to or that you have the right to demand EA to disclose their games ending to you before the game is released.

http://legal-diction...lse Advertising

Modifié par GeneralArrow, 16 mars 2012 - 08:25 .

[Zaizer]

This...this is not a good idea.

[Nyila]

Lycius wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

Lycius wrote...

You're trolling based on the posts you've made in this thread. The bait and switch, if nothing else was the MP crap which they deny is required but not one person has been able to get 4k without. Unless you can show a screenshot, don't even bother claiming you can get 4k without MP.

Done with you.

I actually got 5900 on my playthrough single player only, but mine was also an ME1 and 2 import and I did pretty much every quest in the game.

Your EMS was 5900?
Screenshot please because you're mistaking total with effective.

Yeah that's what I was wondering, after doing every side quest and everything, I barely got 3500 EMS.

[Harbinger of Hope]

magnutz06 wrote...

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

[Unit-Alpha]

@OP: Bravo.

[FKA_Servo]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...


They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

I agree. A statement to this effect should probably be stickied on the story forum.

<_<

Modifié par TommyServo, 16 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[Persephone]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

magnutz06 wrote...

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

They ALREADY DID!

[MonkeySeeker]

Skirata129 wrote...

Lycius wrote...

You're trolling based on the posts you've made in this thread. The bait and switch, if nothing else was the MP crap which they deny is required but not one person has been able to get 4k without. Unless you can show a screenshot, don't even bother claiming you can get 4k without MP.

Done with you.

I actually got 5900 on my playthrough single player only, but mine was also an ME1 and 2 import and I did pretty much every quest in the game.

That's impossible. That would require 11800 Total before your readiness rating cuts it in half, which cannot be done without multiplayer.

I imported my save across all three games, did everything and had around 7600 total/3800 effective.

[KingDan97]

*Facedesk* This is what is wrong with people...

[GeneralArrow]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

magnutz06 wrote...

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

Ironically they have...
http://social.biowar...5/index/9992961

[Nyila]

Persephone wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

magnutz06 wrote...

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

They ALREADY DID!

They danced around the issue saying they were listening and asking what was our favorite part of the game.

[KMYash]

DemGeth wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Which is why BBB/FTC don't blindly act on just any one complaint. If for whatever reason either organization decided that they really wanted to look after these complaints (which I doubt) they would decide if there was substance to the complaints. And unless you work for either organization or happen to be lawyer in this part of the law I don't think you, or I, have the right to say that there is or isn't substance to the complaint. But OP as a paying customer of Bioware has every right to make complaint.

No it's just common knowledge.  Seriously.  Like I said the issue isn't the complaints filed as some other said they have.  The issue is a dellusional atmosphere in which thinking that these complaints mean something is prevelant.  

I agree with you on that. It's not going to much of anything especially with only one person sending a complaint. But as other people have said, people that may rely on the BBB before buying a product might not buy something from them if there are too many complaints. It's never going to the companies millions or even thousands, but it might cost them 60$ here and there. 

I'll admit that my main annoyance with this thread is people thinking that this is a horredous action against Bioware. It's not. People just don't often use resources like BBB/FTC so when someone says that they are people react like they're accusing someone of being communist during the Red Scare. 

[VAIOMANIAC]

I am not sure we should do this guys seems that many in the retake movement is against this course of action.

I think let´s keep a cool head and give it another week for Bioware to respond.

[FKA_Servo]

Nyila wrote...

They danced around the issue saying they were listening and asking what was our favorite part of the game.

"They should do this."

"They DID."

"...They should do it more."

Again - hold your goddamn horses. Something will happen.

[Nyila]

TommyServo wrote...

Nyila wrote...

They danced around the issue saying they were listening and asking what was our favorite part of the game.

"They should do this."

"They DID."

"...They should do it more."

Again - hold your goddamn horses. Something will happen.

I knowz! :happy:

[GeneralArrow]

Nyila wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

magnutz06 wrote...

I dont think this would have gone so far if BW just responded to this major issue . Obviously they havent whether they cant or just wont. It was only a matter of time before someone went there . I hope this all gets settled soon before its gets worse for all parties involved

They just won't. They could have along time ago said "We have heard your concerns about the ending and we are looking into it" and people would have been happy.

They ALREADY DID!

They danced around the issue saying they were listening and asking what was our favorite part of the game.

They are trying to encourage a positive enviormnet for people to talk about the issues they have with the game. May seem counter intuative but it's the right way to go about it.

[plaguecaller]

DemGeth wrote...

coloradosarge wrote...

The main issue is that the negative publicity from this WILL do more damage than any good that comes from filing an FTC and BBB compliant. At least at the current time.

One guy dong that isn't the issue.

The issue is the amount of people taking it seriously and agreeing with him 

Oh man just look at the irony of this here and the sense of entitlement.

Kind of goes along a thread of ... I don't like the endings you owe me a new ending and the FTC/BBB has nothing else better to do but que jump my claim through their own procees to deal with my endings demands now !!!

Not like there are worse complaints being filed at the moment that actually involve health, safety or personal injury issues ove bad products - nope this ME3 fanbois issues are so earth shattering that we stop all we are doing to fix his sense of entitlement.

Yeah that kind warms the funny bone on any public body having to deal with this one. I would love to be in their office when they start passing coffee through their noses laughing at this one.

Because it is a such an epic issue it needs to be triaged and accelerated through the complaint proccess.

I hope it makes it to the CNN level maybe even Hannity.

The guys in Burnaby BC must be busting a gut at the moment laughing. 

 

Modifié par plaguecaller, 16 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[DrowNoble]

At the very least BBB complaints show up in the company's history. Even if EA ignores it, the complaints filed don't go away, they will still show up as umm "no response to complaint" is the phrase I think.

Remember people: HOLD THE LINE

[magnutz06]

Its sad harbinger just a couple of weeks ago we were all happy and gitty waiting for the culmination of our efforts in ME1&2 and now its devolved into chaos,i dont think its ever been this bad.Thatalone should bring change yet it hasnt. Defys logic