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[Harbinger of Hope]

KMYash wrote...

I stand by the fact that going through proper channels and making a complaint is less ridiculous. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of the board accepting something that will mostly be detrimental to our 'public image' than this. 

I feel by calling his complaint to the FTC ridiculous you're calling the entire Retake Mass Effect movement on BSN ridiculous. What are RME people doing? They're making their complaints known. What did OP do? He made his complaints known. Where's the difference? Well one group is online making a big deal of it. The other made a complaint through proper channels and mentioned it online. OP didn't make this thread a big deal. He simply was offering another route for people. People calling him a baby made this thread a big deal.

QFT. Seems like there is alot of hypocrisy going around.

[MzAdventure]

KMYash wrote...

Trust me, I feel the same but I'm on the opposite side of the matter. To me, personally, it feels like people are willing to complain about the ending (and subsequently what Bioware has said about the game prerelease ) but not exercise their rights as consumers. 

Win

[Kitsune413]

Bad Move. Bad Press. I know you're upset. But this is very damaging.

In a best case scenario this fails and colors people that care passionately about the game and want more closure in a bad light.

In a worst case scenario this works. I think you're too caught up in the idea of the positive benefits to consider the negative repurcussions to that.

[plaguecaller]

cASe383 wrote...

I don't know whether to laugh or SMH at the concept of a BBB and FTC complaint.

Laugh, just laugh

[jfood]

KMYash wrote...
I stand by the fact that going through proper channels and making a complaint is less ridiculous. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of the board accepting something that will mostly be detrimental to our 'public image' than this. 

I feel by calling his complaint to the FTC ridiculous you're calling the entire Retake Mass Effect movement on BSN ridiculous. What are RME people doing? They're making their complaints known. What did OP do? He made his complaints known. Where's the difference? Well one group is online making a big deal of it. The other made a complaint through proper channels and mentioned it online. OP didn't make this thread a big deal. He simply was offering another route for people. People calling him a baby made this thread a big deal.

It's the responsible and legal avenue to deal with issues regarding advertising of commercial products. It's also how adults deal with stuff, through an agreed upon legal framework. It's also important to share this information with other consumers, doubly so given the amount of ignorance in this thread with regards to people who thought this was a lawsuit or somesuch.

They probably field a thousand complaints just like this everyday.

[byzantine horse]

GeneralArrow wrote...

magnutz06 wrote...

Its sad harbinger just a couple of weeks ago we were all happy and gitty waiting for the culmination of our efforts in ME1&2 and now its devolved into chaos,i dont think its ever been this bad.Thatalone should bring change yet it hasnt. Defys logic

You haven't seen a storm until you've seen the wow forums after an update! HAHAHAH

In my experience this is actually alot worse.

[Nyila]

Brahlis wrote...

Just wanted to let the OP know that he's an idiot for doing this.

What an incredibly productive statement.

[ticklefist]

I don't need the ending changed anymore. I need my money back.

I'm doing this.

[MzAdventure]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

KMYash wrote...

I stand by the fact that going through proper channels and making a complaint is less ridiculous. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of the board accepting something that will mostly be detrimental to our 'public image' than this. 

I feel by calling his complaint to the FTC ridiculous you're calling the entire Retake Mass Effect movement on BSN ridiculous. What are RME people doing? They're making their complaints known. What did OP do? He made his complaints known. Where's the difference? Well one group is online making a big deal of it. The other made a complaint through proper channels and mentioned it online. OP didn't make this thread a big deal. He simply was offering another route for people. People calling him a baby made this thread a big deal.

QFT. Seems like there is alot of hypocrisy going around.

First time in seven days I've been ashamed of my involvement with the Retake crowd, I simply cannot believe the hypocritcal reaction to the OP excercising his right as a citizen.

C'mon gang, you are better than this.

[KMYash]

Kitsune413 wrote...

Bad Move. Bad Press. I know you're upset. But this is very damaging.

In a best case scenario this fails and colors people that care passionately about the game and want more closure in a bad light.

In a worst case scenario this works. I think you're too caught up in the idea of the positive benefits to consider the negative repurcussions to that.

Alright then. EVERYONE on BSN should shut up about what they think BSN has done. Then NO ONE will be painted in a bad light for being an unhappy customer. BIOWARE WINS YAY.

...Oh wait... people wanted the consumer to win.... ooops

[Harbinger of Hope]

victoriakm wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Trust me, I feel the same but I'm on the opposite side of the matter. To me, personally, it feels like people are willing to complain about the ending (and subsequently what Bioware has said about the game prerelease ) but not exercise their rights as consumers. 

Win

I think it is because gamers have had it beaten into them that they have no rights as a consumer.

[Bode GodSend]

Honestly, i had a pretty bad opinion of this "movement" already, but this... words just fail me... I just hope that all this childish dont ruin what bioware had planed for those of us that actually liked the game and didnt mind all that much about the ending.

[kramerfan86]

KMYash wrote...

kramerfan86 wrote...

KMYash wrote...

kramerfan86 wrote...

This can only serve to "damage" the movement by making it look irrational.

Again, how? You know someone is trying to get people together to protest the game outside of BW headquarters? How is that less damaging than sending a complaint to the proper organization? People seem to be supporting the protest when that will just make people look bad. Remember those girls that protested Ryan Gosling not being sexiest man alive? They were called crazy.

And?  Pointing out that other people are also doing ridiculous things doesnt somehow make something non-ridiculous. 

I stand by the fact that going through proper channels and making a complaint is less ridiculous. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of the board accepting something that will mostly be detrimental to our 'public image' than this. 

I feel by calling his complaint to the FTC ridiculous you're calling the entire Retake Mass Effect movement on BSN ridiculous. What are RME people doing? They're making their complaints known. What did OP do? He made his complaints known. Where's the difference? Well one group is online making a big deal of it. The other made a complaint through proper channels and mentioned it online. OP didn't make this thread a big deal. He simply was offering another route for people. People calling him a baby made this thread a big deal.

There is quite the gaping chasm between "making my opinion known" and "filing a complaint with the federal government".  

[Thomas Abram]

"This forum is for registered owners of Mass Effect 3 to discuss the story and spoilers of Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 3 registration is required to post in this forum, but all visitors may read."

Locked.

[Brahlis]

Nyila wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

Just wanted to let the OP know that he's an idiot for doing this.

What an incredibly productive statement.

It's simply the truth. Just wait until more gaming sites get a hold of this and then completely trash all of us because of it. This doesn't do a thing to help the cause.

[Persephone]

ticklefist wrote...

I don't need the ending changed anymore. I need my money back.

I'm doing this.

Yes. Give the media more reasons to revile what started out as a legit request.