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[Rheinlandman]

 

Modifié par Rheinlandman, 16 mars 2012 - 05:40 .

[Arokel]

Freakiq wrote...

This is why I pirate games and only buy them if I find them good.

It's illegal but then again so is false advertising.

Well this thread is doomed now.

[Epiph1]

I suppose one of the arguments that could go in your favor is the inability to return a digital copy as a flawed product, which is one of the more relevant factors, if you were able to prove that they deliberately lied.

It does raise issues about consumer protection but I don't think much will be done.

[izmirtheastarach]

Marta Rio II wrote...

Uh, wow.  Kind of reminds me of the lady who filed a lawsuit against the producers of "Drive", claiming that the trailers were false advertising, and that the actual movie didn't have enough driving and had way too much Ryan Gosling staring into space.  And we all know that was a perfectly well-reasoned reaction, which absolutely no one in the media made fun of .

The way to combat Bioware's misleading advertising is to stop buying their products.  Full stop.

I guess the difference I see is that this is not a situation where we were mislead by the advertising. I would be far less bothered by that. We were lied to about very specific things by the people in charge of the game's development. Not in ads, but in plain english.

Again, I don't think they will ever be held accountable, I just want to make the clarification.

[Rheinlandman]

Brahlis wrote...

They're Canadian doe.

Doe?

Anyway, EA isn't, and Bioware has branches in USA, making it a multinational thus liable.

Also it sells goods here is the USA, thus it can be subjected to US trade laws and the scrutiny of such organizations.

Bioware is an EA Subsidiary anyway, in the end thats all that matters.

[Spitfiremk87]

You shouldn't pirate games no matter what. Even though the endings were terrible, lots of work, effort, and money went into making this game.

[Balmung31]

The gaming media is gonna have a field day with this...

I understand your upset, OP, but I think you've probably hurt us more than helped. The media will twist this to suit their own ends.

[Jaze55]

eddieoctane wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

art[/i]/ärt/Noun:The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,...: "the art of the Renaissance"Works produced by such skill and imagination.
prod·uct[/i]/ˈprädəkt/Noun:An article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.A substance produced during a natural, chemical, or manufacturing process: "waste products".

What about software? Excel couldn't be considered a product because it's really just code. But if codeis a product, so is ME3 because it was sold to make a profit.

Excell is - An article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.
Games are An article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.

Anything MASS PRODUCED TO SELL is a product. I believe Mass Effect games were mass producted to sell. 

[Sam Anders]

If what we have wasn't the end, and they do have something created or at the very least planned, don't you think they would say something at this point? Given the MASSIVE backlash right now and people swearing to never buy BioWare games again?

[Kyidro]

Jeez, I dont believe this the way of doing anything. As much as I want a new ending or a clarification of the current one, a lawsuit is an extremely dumb way to get your voice heard.

[Lycius]

We have received your complaint.
Thank you for filing a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.

[Lethys1]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

Damn. Wonder if this will get their attention.

Do you realize how many people probably do this on every item they buy?  They've probably gotten at least ten complaints for every game they've ever sold.

I doubt this will be taken seriously.  If it is, consider me incredibly surprised.

[Aran Linvail]

Funny how everyone is crying rivers here and when someone try to do something about , everyone goes against , figures why Bioware dont give a F*** about what people here is saying. Because they know no matter what , Dragon Age 3 goes Gold , 80% of the same people crying about ME3 here pre-order. Thats why the Games Industry is never going to change.

[United Servo Academy Choir]

Sam Anders wrote...

If what we have wasn't the end, and they do have something created or at the very least planned, don't you think they would say something at this point? Given the MASSIVE backlash right now and people swearing to never buy BioWare games again?

If you track developer and mod comments - especially twitter - they are dropping hints everywhere.

It's not the end, and they have something big planned. If it pans out, it will be a masterstroke. Either way, the "fan" reaction so far is embarassing.

Modifié par TommyServo, 16 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[Fair34]

Hmm. I'd have waited for Bioware to make an official statement before doing this.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

This will accomplish nothing but bad blood.

eddieoctane wrote...

Risky move. I'd much rather have the franchise back than what i paid for the game.

[pharsti]

Arokel wrote...

Freakiq wrote...

This is why I pirate games and only buy them if I find them good.

It's illegal but then again so is false advertising.

Well this thread is doomed now.

Yep, its doomed, well, pretty sure its not locked yet because there isnt anyone here to listen >_>

[WhereEternityEnds]

Bioware lied about not needing multiplayer to get the best ending. This is called BAIT And switch is pretty much illegal.

[Candidate 88766]

And it will rightly get ignored.

Why?

EA didn't write the endings. EA weren't the ones who made all the promises.

If you want to lodge this kind of complaint, at least do it against the correct company.

Although seeing as developer comments before release are not legally binding in any manner I still doubt it would get far.

[pomrink]

WhereEternityEnds wrote...

Bioware lied about not needing multiplayer to get the best ending. This is called BAIT And switch is pretty much illegal.

This. Important.

[Aedan276]

 It's theoretically possible they pushed the extremes of the law (theoretical because nobody has ever filed suit like this over a video game and its a rather tenous connection in any case), but again, we should still wait until it is positively confirmed there will be no ending DLC. 

Stick with the charity drive and not buying Bioware/EA products.

Modifié par Aedan276, 16 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Ohpus]

Brahlis wrote...

They're Canadian doe.

Bioware is Canadian, owned by EA (American IIRC).

[Legendaryred]

EA has been sued before and has lost. EA had to pay millions to somebody for making their workers in the past work exceeding hours with no breaks etc, it's on their wiki page.

[pharsti]

WhereEternityEnds wrote...

Bioware lied about not needing multiplayer to get the best ending. This is called BAIT And switch is pretty much illegal.

Seen some people saying its possible, i couldnt do it, fell short by 200 assets or so, but then again, they probably meant "its possible, after you get all dlcs".

[Darth Malignus]

Well, if people can sue McDonalds because the coffee they spill on themselves is hot AND WIN, nothing would surprise me.