Baine10 wrote...
I see your point and I agree wholeheartedly, but his philosophical model pertains to the argument against the theory, not the game itself. Thus it is a meaningless use of it.
Sorry to say this, but I think you failed to read my post properly?
100% win, perfect response to this failure of a topic.Mintycool wrote...
Gravbh wrote...
I need to see Shepard's birth certificate.
MassEffected555 wrote...
Mcfly616 wrote...
And please please explain to me: Shepard is outerspace...how in the **** can he breathe without a mask on? He was just on a mission earlier in the game where he's in space, and the game makes you where a helmet. You don't have a choice....but some how the laws of the universe have changed in the few hours between that mission and when you meet the Starkid? That seems totally logical....NOT....let me guess, he can.breathe in outerspace because of poor writing or space magic....right?!....yeah that's all you trolls got....you have no evidence to debunk the indoc theory....all you have to do is stop trying to prove it isn't a dream/indoc, and start trying to prove your own theory that its all real....which you can't....I'd love to see someone try
OK so we are using real life situation to prove the theory? Ok then, how is it possible for giant half machine/half squids can talk to us? Or how is it possible a stasis pod can survice for 50,000 years? Or how is it possible Shepard fell from a space ship, got burned from entering the atmosphere, slammed down on the ground and was still able to be re built? Oh cause the game says it can happen, just like the game says Shep can breath in outer space. DERP
Rafe34 wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
You're right. That is the biggest problem with it, you could justify everything by horrible writing. I just really would rather believe BW didn't completely drop the ball on the ending to this trilogy.
The information provided by the IOS app sort of points towards it though. The storyboard, quotes from Walters and Casey and Walters notes. It really does.
Oh I agree. That pretty much shot any chance of it actually being what BW intended down the proverbial drain.
It still makes me laugh, not in a good way, that the fans came up with a better ending in a week.
MintyCool wrote...
rockman0 wrote...
MintyCool wrote...
rockman0 wrote...
MintyCool wrote...
Lethys1 wrote...
Anyone who so emphatically rejects it and claims there's no legitimate backing just lacks an understanding of the theory. It's fine, no one can prove it's correct or false, but it certainly makes sense and has proof behind it.
Truthers 9/11, Holocaust Deniers, etc.
With your logic the above organizations are legit. Don't try to flock your feathers with your intellectual superiority unless you have an understanding with wtf you're talking about.
Speak more multi-syllable words in a random order; I enjoy it puppet.
Checkmate.
You shouldn't compare real life crackpot theories to some pass time on a video game forum. After all, those real-life events weren't "open for interpretation." Besides, what occurred in those events are a lot more serious than some video game ending that you happened to dislike.
Checkmate rescinded.
Exactly my point,
A movement requires work, and you're too lazy for that. A similar example would be people watching the Kony YouTube doc, and then lazily contribute to the cause by changing their Facebook status....
Hold the line? lol.
If you really do have this much passion, it's a shame that you're wasting your energy on a 15min pixel cutscene and not contributing to something worthwhile in your life....
Hold the line? It would seem you're not holding anything...
Check And Mate.
And you've come to that conclusion how? How can you tell what someone does in their life by what you see online? That's pretty pretentious of you. Besides, the same could be said of you. Why aren't you doing something worthwhile in your life?
Why isn't anyone crying out "Hold the line" doing anything worthwhile with their life?
Still no checkmate. Partly because we're not playing chess.
EDIT: Took your initiative and bolded some parts to make what I'm saying seem important.Mintycool wrote...
^
Rafe34 wrote...
MassEffected555 wrote...
Mcfly616 wrote...
And please please explain to me: Shepard is outerspace...how in the **** can he breathe without a mask on? He was just on a mission earlier in the game where he's in space, and the game makes you where a helmet. You don't have a choice....but some how the laws of the universe have changed in the few hours between that mission and when you meet the Starkid? That seems totally logical....NOT....let me guess, he can.breathe in outerspace because of poor writing or space magic....right?!....yeah that's all you trolls got....you have no evidence to debunk the indoc theory....all you have to do is stop trying to prove it isn't a dream/indoc, and start trying to prove your own theory that its all real....which you can't....I'd love to see someone try
OK so we are using real life situation to prove the theory? Ok then, how is it possible for giant half machine/half squids can talk to us? Or how is it possible a stasis pod can survice for 50,000 years? Or how is it possible Shepard fell from a space ship, got burned from entering the atmosphere, slammed down on the ground and was still able to be re built? Oh cause the game says it can happen, just like the game says Shep can breath in outer space. DERP
Okay... Well. He's not using RL situation, he's using the rules of the ME universe. Shep can't breathe in space, that's why you suffocate to death at the beginning of ME2.
tobito113 wrote...
Jessica Merizan tweeted that the IOSapp in no way disproves the Indocrination Theory
Baine10 wrote...
[...] The IT is a symbol of hope and good faith, in that Bioware has not completely betrayed every single soul that invested in this franchise and commander shepard, who were only looking for face-value closure.
MassEffected555 wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
MassEffected555 wrote...
Mcfly616 wrote...
And please please explain to me: Shepard is outerspace...how in the **** can he breathe without a mask on? He was just on a mission earlier in the game where he's in space, and the game makes you where a helmet. You don't have a choice....but some how the laws of the universe have changed in the few hours between that mission and when you meet the Starkid? That seems totally logical....NOT....let me guess, he can.breathe in outerspace because of poor writing or space magic....right?!....yeah that's all you trolls got....you have no evidence to debunk the indoc theory....all you have to do is stop trying to prove it isn't a dream/indoc, and start trying to prove your own theory that its all real....which you can't....I'd love to see someone try
OK so we are using real life situation to prove the theory? Ok then, how is it possible for giant half machine/half squids can talk to us? Or how is it possible a stasis pod can survice for 50,000 years? Or how is it possible Shepard fell from a space ship, got burned from entering the atmosphere, slammed down on the ground and was still able to be re built? Oh cause the game says it can happen, just like the game says Shep can breath in outer space. DERP
Okay... Well. He's not using RL situation, he's using the rules of the ME universe. Shep can't breathe in space, that's why you suffocate to death at the beginning of ME2.
Okay... Well. Here is you answer:
[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)">The Wards are open-topped, with skyscrapers rising from the superstructure. Towers are sealed against vacuum, as the breathable atmosphere envelope is only maintained to a height of about seven meters. The atmosphere is contained by the centrifugal force of rotation and a "membrane" of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas, held in place by carefully managed ].[/color]
http://masseffect.wi...ctic_Government - go to the Ward section.
MassEffected555 wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
MassEffected555 wrote...
Mcfly616 wrote...
And please please explain to me: Shepard is outerspace...how in the **** can he breathe without a mask on? He was just on a mission earlier in the game where he's in space, and the game makes you where a helmet. You don't have a choice....but some how the laws of the universe have changed in the few hours between that mission and when you meet the Starkid? That seems totally logical....NOT....let me guess, he can.breathe in outerspace because of poor writing or space magic....right?!....yeah that's all you trolls got....you have no evidence to debunk the indoc theory....all you have to do is stop trying to prove it isn't a dream/indoc, and start trying to prove your own theory that its all real....which you can't....I'd love to see someone try
OK so we are using real life situation to prove the theory? Ok then, how is it possible for giant half machine/half squids can talk to us? Or how is it possible a stasis pod can survice for 50,000 years? Or how is it possible Shepard fell from a space ship, got burned from entering the atmosphere, slammed down on the ground and was still able to be re built? Oh cause the game says it can happen, just like the game says Shep can breath in outer space. DERP
Okay... Well. He's not using RL situation, he's using the rules of the ME universe. Shep can't breathe in space, that's why you suffocate to death at the beginning of ME2.
Okay... Well. Here is you answer:
[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)">The Wards are open-topped, with skyscrapers rising from the superstructure. Towers are sealed against vacuum, as the breathable atmosphere envelope is only maintained to a height of about seven meters. The atmosphere is contained by the centrifugal force of rotation and a "membrane" of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas, held in place by carefully managed ].[/color]
http://masseffect.wi...ctic_Government - go to the Ward section.
rockman0 wrote...
Mintycool wrote...
^
Non-sequitur for the win!
Also doubles as irony when you consider the fact that the person in the picture could very well be you.
I only stepped into this conversation to point out your douchebaggery.
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Makatak wrote...
Baine10 wrote...
[...] The IT is a symbol of hope and good faith, in that Bioware has not completely betrayed every single soul that invested in this franchise and commander shepard, who were only looking for face-value closure.
It's not betrayal, it's just a let-down. I think people are getting a little overdramatic with the idea that maybe, again, it was just bad writing. I don't think Stephanie Meyer betrayed vampire fans when she wrote Twilight. She simply wrote a bad series of books (rather, to be politically correct, she wrote a series of books that I am not a fan of...though I'm supported by several legitimate literary critics and minds that agree that her writing is, indeed, awful).
While the IT believers think that Bioware cannot fail, I instead think that Bioware believed it could not fail, and were subsequently wrong. One of these theories suggests an imperviousness that I refuse to believe exists in our real-world universe.
Web Access Card wrote...
I don't buy into the indoctrination theory, but I find it admirable in a tragic sort of way; it's basically an elaborate coping mechanism, and I think it's kind of ingenius.
Rafe34 wrote...
Baine10 wrote...
I see your point and I agree wholeheartedly, but his philosophical model pertains to the argument against the theory, not the game itself. Thus it is a meaningless use of it.
Sorry to say this, but I think you failed to read my post properly?
Hmm.
I didn't quite get what you were saying, but I don't see why it changes anything because it's a VG theory as opposed to a VG?
dazor86 wrote...
If the indoctrination theory is true, that makes the entire final dialogue with the Illusive Man absolutely silly. "The Reapers have already taken control of you Illusive Man, how can you not see that?"
Little did Shepard know that he, HIMSELF, was the indoctrinated one.
*DUMMM DUMM DUUUUUUMMM*
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