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[M561]

I find this quite odd considering EA's relationship with Sony. I've gotten over most of the issues that have swelled in attention since it's release; the main reason i'm borderline upset about this event was that the outlets that I heard about the event from (IGN) were also unaware about the exclusion until several hours after the event started.

[The Wrathful Badger]

Over the past years Sony has been one of the most welcoming companies in the gaming market. If they weren't like that, we might not have games like Journey, Dust 514, and many other exclusives. Because of that statement, I'm currently wondering about why a company like Bioware would not allow an event like this to happen on the PS3. May I remind you that PS3 has the exact same data feature as Xbox and PC?

[starscreamerx31]

The Wrathful Badger wrote...

Over the past years Sony has been one of the most welcoming companies in the gaming market. If they weren't like that, we might not have games like Journey, Dust 514, and many other exclusives. Because of that statement, I'm currently wondering about why a company like Bioware would not allow an event like this to happen on the PS3. May I remind you that PS3 has the exact same data feature as Xbox and PC?

agree 100%

[Gov. Healthcare]

They will be releasing the pack to PS3 users as a $15 DLC, funny they got it to work for ps3 instantly once they started making money off it


(Sorry the above is not the truth and only a satirical prediction based on biowares motive)

[Stradimus]

So I have been taking a little bit of a look around because I wanted to see what the trend was for answering questions. The Bioware staff has been responding to a lot of the questions pertaining to how fun different elements of the game are and talking about their own gaming experiences. The other threads they address are the problems that seem like an easy fix. When I look at the PS3 forums, I see the stickies and the one thread that blew up about framerate issues that had a BW post on them. After that, I have to go back 4 pages to see any response to a thread at all, and it is also a underhand pitch problem. I wouldn't be expecting a response to this thread, because quite frankly, they do not seem to care that much as witnessed in these forums.

[Lime The Dragon]

Lunardawn wrote...

i know what the technical limitation is xbox paid them off like xbox does for other games.

This.

Look at the facts..

1) Xbox removed the Live Gold requirement to play the demo MP. 
---A strategy to get people interesting in MP, and get Live Gold for the main game.

2) Collector Rifle codes only work for 360/PC.

3) Weekend event only works for 360/PC.

4) Battlefront Soldier only works for 360/PC.

5) All 3 above mentioned content, as given out in special bonus packs.

6) PS3 is FULLY capable of having special packs, as shown by the limited-time equipment pack.

7) The weekend event only works for 360/PC.

8) The reward for the weekend event is bonus packs, as mentioned before, entirely compatible with PS3.

9) The kill and extraction tracking for the weekend event, uses the Upload Game Data feature, which is present and functional in both ME2 and ME3 for PS3.

10) Mass Effect 1 and 2 have both had some form of exclusivity to 360/PC, whether it be indefinite or timed.

Simply put.. you do the math.

Modifié par Lime The Dragon, 19 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[DCN2049]

Axlesauce wrote...

DCN2049 wrote...

"Irritating" is one word I'd use to describe the vast majority of this experience. Though that would be omitting a lot of other transgressions.

Prior to this fiasco, I was fairly happy with the game as a whole. A few questionable decisions, some game breaking bugs, but nothing I couldn't get around and expect a patch for eventually. I still had a certain level of trust in Bioware.

But this has been considerably... inconsiderate. Not only have they not addressed the "why" behind our exclusion from the event (technical limitations is unacceptable, as is the idea that the issue is due to Sony policy changes. Calling that a technical limitation seems like a whole other fiasco, but I refuse to put thought to that), but we haven't been given any answers as to whether we may expect compensation or involvement in future events, or if we may as well forget any inclusion whatsoever (an idea I'm reluctant to accept with the respect towards Bioware I have, or still have).

Even a simple "Just wait, we'll figure something out for you guys" or "You'll get the event next" or, really, anything, would be vastly more acceptable than the cold shoulder the PS3 community appears to be getting. And while I'm loathe to accept aggressive protestation or complaints to try and achieve this, it's starting to feel slightly warranted.  At the moment though, I'd say the best plan is to still ask nicely, but continuously, about what plans they have, if any, for our side of the universe.

I can't honestly say there's any reason for them to not tell us anything at all aside from "technical limitations." It's akin to being nonverbally told to shut up. A command I would actually prefer to be verbalized from them instead, because then I'd know at least someone heard me.

In short, this is fairly awful. I've read a plethora of pages in threads where people have voiced similar worries, and have received no fair answer. The idea that we're being outright shunned is starting to grow a little too large.

I'd just like to mention how nice it is to see a well thought out, well worded, and moderately polite reply that adresses the main issues. 

Bioware seems to have a bit of a problem when it comes to communication. If further details were explained occasionally, people would probably not be as "outraged" as they are/were. Of course even if the problems were purely technical, I'd still be disappointed - but all in all I'm glad to have ME on the PS3 in the first place.

Thank you. With all the hostilities and vengeful posting building both in previous threads and this one, I hoped it would do some good to actually try and be reasonable rather than blurt out of a string of expletives and rash decisions. Not that I would do that anyways.

I try and remember that the most vehement people on the forums are often just the visible minority of a larger community, but that doesn't always make me feel better. We're not all violent, and all we want is a little communication. None of this has stopped me from playing yet though.

[monkelus]

While I agree that it does suck to be excluded from the previous promotion and losing out on a lot of unique items because of it, there's one thing I think people are overlooking; I call it the 'Resistance 3' defence.

To coincide with the release of R3 last year a websire was set up at 'www.myresistance.net' which included a 'Risk' type strategy game that would allow players to link their achievements there to multiplayer aspect of R3. All well and good, but for the first couple of months of that website's existence there was no actual way to do the link the accounts because of the same kind of restrictions being placed upon Bioware right now. At one point Sony even refused to allow the website to run due to their strict privacy/security practices.

What I'm saying is; if Sony can place those kinds of delays/restrictions on a game or developer they own, imagine the hoops Bioware must be forced to jump to before they can sort this out for us.

As a PS3 owner, I hope they do soon I want awesome stuff like everyone else, but I think it's important to see things with a wider perspective.

[MegaSovereign]

Funny I was imagine Sony would have a less strict online policy considering the fact that it's free and more open. Many devs including valve comment about how Psn is easier to work with

[ThomasakaDes_]

Ah, technical limitation, what a load of bs.
The Xbox and PS3 has just about the smae specs.

What about PC, do they get these things?
Or is it just becaus PS3 and PC doesn`t have a Kinect?

[monkelus]

Funnily enough, I was thinking of the 'Portal 2' example on Saturday after finding out we were excluded from Project Goliath. Maybe it's got something to do with the planning stages of a game, if there was always meant to be cross platform support and Sony knew this, could be they arrange something ahead of time to compensate.

Like I said, I used the R3 example because it caused a delay, not because it didn't happen.

What I do find odd though, is the whole logging into the EA servers when the game launches. If Sony are restricting the use of data acquired from the PSN, why would EA not be able to argue that the info needed for these things is lifted directly from the Origin side of things, or compensate for the short comings of the PSN by altering the data collected from their servers (time played/stats etc)

Modifié par monkelus, 19 mars 2012 - 12:31 .

[ThomasakaDes_]

So, it`s Sony that has said no to it?
I`m pretty sure that the PS3 can handle anything the Xbox can.

[monkelus]

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

So, it`s Sony that has said no to it?
I`m pretty sure that the PS3 can handle anything the Xbox can.

That's where people are getting this whole scenario wrong, granted Bioware have used the term 'technical limitations', but that doesn't mean we should take it to mean the PS3 is not powerful enough to cope with these things.

It could be that the PSN is set in such a way that Bioware cannot monitor the game data, much in the same way that web services like RAPTR rely on users manually entering their game play time for the PS3. Things like that would be classed as a 'technical limitation' of the PS3, it's nothing to do with the hardware.

[sangy]

monkelus wrote...

While I agree that it does suck to be excluded from the previous promotion and losing out on a lot of unique items because of it, there's one thing I think people are overlooking; I call it the 'Resistance 3' defence.

To coincide with the release of R3 last year a websire was set up at 'www.myresistance.net' which included a 'Risk' type strategy game that would allow players to link their achievements there to multiplayer aspect of R3. All well and good, but for the first couple of months of that website's existence there was no actual way to do the link the accounts because of the same kind of restrictions being placed upon Bioware right now. At one point Sony even refused to allow the website to run due to their strict privacy/security practices.

What I'm saying is; if Sony can place those kinds of delays/restrictions on a game or developer they own, imagine the hoops Bioware must be forced to jump to before they can sort this out for us.

As a PS3 owner, I hope they do soon I want awesome stuff like everyone else, but I think it's important to see things with a wider perspective.

Why wouldn't you delay the event till all platforms could join in then?  It's common sense.  Even if they do something similar for the PS3 users later, guess what, it's less likely that the PC and Xbox users will be there to help out.  Whether it's because it's "PS3 only" or because others have gotten their bonus items and don't need to do it again.  Even having the event for PS3 users "later" is wrong.  That's like saying "We don't have time for you to fix this mess right now, we'll try later."

I liked the multiplayer, but I wasn't great at it.  The groups I tried to get in, it seemed the groups kept disbanding.  I don't know why.  I was able to play it on PC demo, but I have the game on PS3 and MP doesn't work well.  I always seem to lose connection.  After happening 4 times I've stopped trying.  With the Operation Goliath event of course I wanted in. 

I just don't see how anyone can't understand why this event is wrong when you neglect 1/3 of the groups.  I guess we have a pretty immature majority that have the mindset "I play on PC/Xbox, what do I care?"  That's seriously just unacceptable, period.

[ThomasakaDes_]

monkelus wrote...

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

So, it`s Sony that has said no to it?
I`m pretty sure that the PS3 can handle anything the Xbox can.

That's where people are getting this whole scenario wrong, granted Bioware have used the term 'technical limitations', but that doesn't mean we should take it to mean the PS3 is not powerful enough to cope with these things.

It could be that the PSN is set in such a way that Bioware cannot monitor the game data, much in the same way that web services like RAPTR rely on users manually entering their game play time for the PS3. Things like that would be classed as a 'technical limitation' of the PS3, it's nothing to do with the hardware.

Ok, thats logic, and that sucks :/
Oh well, I`ll just have to stay out of the Operations threads, I became abit jelous while reading everyone having fun with it
Though I don`t play the multiplayer.

[Jayhau]

Support your Playstation fans please. If I paid for mass effect 3 I should be getting the exact same experience regardless of the system I choose to play it on.

It's like buying ice cream in a cone rather than a bowl. I shouldn't get less if I choose one or another if it's the same price

[Lime The Dragon]

Jayhau wrote...

Support your Playstation fans please. If I paid for mass effect 3 I should be getting the exact same experience regardless of the system I choose to play it on.

It's like buying ice cream in a cone rather than a bowl. I shouldn't get less if I choose one or another if it's the same price

Unless a third party is paying for that cone to have less ice cream.

And of course, no company in their right mind would advertise they have such a deal, because that would be a public relations disaster, and alienate most of their cone-user fanbase.

[BDG420]

Lime The Dragon wrote...

Jayhau wrote...

Support your Playstation fans please. If I paid for mass effect 3 I should be getting the exact same experience regardless of the system I choose to play it on.

It's like buying ice cream in a cone rather than a bowl. I shouldn't get less if I choose one or another if it's the same price

Unless a third party is paying for that cone to have less ice cream.

And of course, no company in their right mind would advertise they have such a deal, because that would be a public relations disaster, and alienate most of their cone-user fanbase.

But bioware did advertise that they were getting payed off for it. I mean think about it. The event was for PC and 360 only AND not to mention that they knew about this in advance but didnt tell anybody the full detales til the day of the event. Not to mention that they refuse to actualy give a full responce on why us PS3 users do not get to partisapate in the comunity event {segrigated comunity event).

[Jayhau]

I think a lot of ps3 users feel either they have been left out/ignored or feel cheated they paid for an unsupported version.

Bioware needs to be for cones!

Pc I guess could be cups? I sometimes use cups.

[LAClennell]

Look at it this way:

PS3 - If you redeemed an online pass and played Dead Space 2 online, then the 'Ser Issac of Clarke' armour got automatically added to your registered game promo list and instantly granted should you load up Dragon Age 2

Xbox 360 - Dead Space 2 copies included an xbox live redeem code for the 'Ser Issac of Clarke' armour for use for xbox versions of Dragon Age 2

Now the tables have turned:

Xbox 360 - If you redeemed an online pass and played Battlefield 3 online, then the 'Soldier on Fire' MP Kit got automatically added to your registered game promo list and purchased from the in game store for free should you load up Mass Effect 3 MP

PS3 - Nothing at all

this evidence clearly supports that some form of exclusivity went down, and that 'technical limititations' is a cover up

Modifié par LAClennell, 19 mars 2012 - 07:53 .

[Mr Wiskers]

"Technical issues" sounds a bit vague and suspicious. One would think that a real technical issue would have been solved by now given that bioware has known about it since well before the game's launch.

I suspect that the number of ps3 copies sold was much less than the pc/xbox copies and bioware is apathetic about supporting such a minority in it's customer base. Something to keep in mind next time they have a game to sell.

[zeroz52]

It's crap, thanks for taking my money and giving me 2/3 of a completed product. Software "engineers" what a joke.

[Zambayoshi]

Xeomonos wrote...

" THIS CHALLENGE IS ONLY IN EFFECT ON XBOX 360 AND PC. Unfortunately we are unable to extend the N7 Challenge Weekend to the PlayStation 3. We continue to work with Sony to have them enable our ability to run these types of events on their platform."

Isn't Sony that decides what happens in their multiplayer events and such? I mean, doesn't BioWare need permission to something like this; across all platforms?

This translates as Microsoft subsidising the event and Sony unwilling to put its hand in its pocket. It seems like Microsoft is really spruiking ME3 as being kind of an 'exclusive' for it, what with the 'better with Kinect', collector rifle DLC, and now this. Why PC as well? Well, just remember that ME3 runs on Microsoft Windows, but also, if you were Microsoft and you could make it look like Sony users get a bum deal from ME3, would you do it? Running the event on PC when it is already being run on Xbox is probably no big deal.

[ThomasakaDes_]

zeroz52 wrote...

It's crap, thanks for taking my money and giving me 2/3 of a completed product. Software "engineers" what a joke.

Uhm you can still play multiplayer and single player, it`s just that you can`t join these operations.
Those operations aren`t a part of the game, they`re just competitions.
I highly doubt that Bioware wouldn`t let the PS3 gamers join in on this if they could. PC gamers can, and they don`t pay for the online service either. Microsoft`s contract with EA is for the 360 only.

Modifié par ThomasakaDes_, 19 mars 2012 - 11:18 .