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[FrozenDreamfall]

Ahh finally someone who understands! For the king and sons and of Skyrim! (still a better ending than ME3)

[Da Don Giovanni]

FrozenDreamfall wrote...

Ahh finally someone who understands! For the king and sons and of Skyrim! (still a better ending than ME3)

DOVAHKIIN!

[FrozenDreamfall]

If you can beat the crap out of an elder god dragon and beat all the dragons by yourself and come out a goddamn hero and be able to continue the game after how the hell you want and actually see how your decisions mattered in the world,why the hell can't you in ME3? Also lets not mention how Skyrim is a heeeeell lot bigger and longer than ME2 and ME3 put together.I'm not talking graphics and storywise here,but only comparing how the games were made and how one company can pull it off and one refuses to.

[FrozenDreamfall]

Also I found this for those who haven't seen it http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1048196

[malra]

for the record, we all know that bethesda has techinical issues generall in their games. they are still in what I consider the "learaning curve". their aspirations exceed their grasp at times in an effort to create games that are ultra-realistic, i.e. one of the realism bits in skyrim I don't care for is the person who gives me the quest gets eaten by dragons so I never clear the quest from the journal. that sucks. however, the scope of the game keeps bringing me back for more.

On the other hand, from Bioware I expect something radically different. I expect polished story telling and a polished game. That is the reputation they have, that is the quality I have come to expect after years of being a consumer of their products. That is not what I received. Which is why I am so dissapointed with the ME3 gaming experience. What I got I would have expected from a studio who had not had much experience telling stories.

[Da Don Giovanni]

FrozenDreamfall wrote...

Also I found this for those who haven't seen it http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1048196

Nice.

[CELL55]

I'm willing to pay for it. I'm willing to wait 6 months for it. I'm willing to wait a year for it. But I need to know that it's in the works. I need them to tell us in April that yes, some people didn't like the ending, and they are making a DLC, or expansion, or whatever, that will address problems that people had with it. If it's the OP's idea or Indoctrination or something else, I don't care, just so long as it's fixed.

[Da Don Giovanni]

CELL55 wrote...

I'm willing to pay for it. I'm willing to wait 6 months for it. I'm willing to wait a year for it. But I need to know that it's in the works. I need them to tell us in April that yes, some people didn't like the ending, and they are making a DLC, or expansion, or whatever, that will address problems that people had with it. If it's the OP's idea or Indoctrination or something else, I don't care, just so long as it's fixed.

Yep

[Shepard108278]

I loved Fallout 3 and Broken Steel but I hate that broken Steel made the sacrifce irrelevent. I pray Bioware doesn't do this.

[Shepard108278]

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

FrozenDreamfall wrote...

Also I found this for those who haven't seen it http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1048196

Nice.

They better just give clairty and not pull a fallout 3.

[Stalker]

Of course I would love this as a fan and even from the companies' view it's reasonable:
Broken Steel was an extremely successful and well appreciated DLC. You want money EA? We are all ready to pay if you deliver us what we demand.

[qdust]

 You don''t even need to look outside of BioWare's catalogue to find a precendent for developers changing the ending of games in dlc.  

At the end of Dragon Age Origins my warden had left Ferelden to seek adventure with Leliana.  Then Awakening comes out and all of a sudden I'm trudging through a marsh alone, seperated from my lover with only a note for explanation.

[Aesieru]

The problem with Broken STeel is it only altered the ending it affected nothing before those points, ME3 has a lot of issues, plotholes, and problems throughout itself that should never have been allowed to pass.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Aesieru wrote...

The problem with Broken STeel is it only altered the ending it affected nothing before those points, ME3 has a lot of issues, plotholes, and problems throughout itself that should never have been allowed to pass.

Mass Effect 3 is plothole central.

[Rockpopple]

All Broken Steel changed was the player dying at the end. Everything else remained the same, and more was added. They didn't change their ending as much as they added on to it and sold it to the player.

You telling me that you'd be okay with Starchild and everything that happened still happening but BioWare adding ending DLC where Shepard lived and got to do more stuff? I seriously doubt it. I mean I think it'd be awesome, but people around here would still be complaining.

Bottom line is that as with Bethesda, it's ultimately BioWare's choice. They'd be just as right in not making any changes, tho I doubt they'll go that route. 

Modifié par Rockpopple, 01 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[Rafe34]

FrozenDreamfall wrote...

Ahh finally someone who understands! For the king and sons and of Skyrim! (still a better ending than ME3)

Not really.

I one-hit Alduin.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Rockpopple wrote...

All Broken Steel changed was the player dying at the end. Everything else remained the same, and more was added. They didn't change their ending as much as they added on to it and sold it to the player.

You telling me that you'd be okay with Starchild and everything that happened still happening but BioWare adding ending DLC where Shepard lived and got to do more stuff? I seriously doubt it. I mean I think it'd be awesome, but people around here would still be complaining.

Bottom line is that as with Bethesda, it's ultimately BioWare's choice. They'd be just as right in not making any changes, tho I doubt they'll go that route. 

Anything after catalyst would be worth my money. Not that it would be right/perfect but it would be better than 
"as is"

[heretica]

>implying you can compare bioware to bethesda...

[txgoldrush]

Broken Steel is awful...it turned a mah poorly executed ending into a non-ending while the new content's story was idiotic.

It also plainly destroyed the sacrifice theme and unbalanced the game even more.

Obsidian was smart and didn't let you play past the ending, however, gave you a warning of point of no retrun.

[RedTail F22]

Rockpopple wrote...

All Broken Steel changed was the player dying at the end. Everything else remained the same, and more was added. They didn't change their ending as much as they added on to it and sold it to the player.

You telling me that you'd be okay with Starchild and everything that happened still happening but BioWare adding ending DLC where Shepard lived and got to do more stuff? I seriously doubt it. I mean I think it'd be awesome, but people around here would still be complaining.

Bottom line is that as with Bethesda, it's ultimately BioWare's choice. They'd be just as right in not making any changes, tho I doubt they'll go that route. 

I dont think people are saying that. I think all their trying to do is point out that if Bethesda rocognized the flaws with their ending and tried to fix it why can't Bioware.

[Rockpopple]

RedTail F22 wrote...

I dont think people are saying that. I think all their trying to do is point out that if Bethesda rocognized the flaws with their ending and tried to fix it why can't Bioware.

How long did it take Broken Steel to come out after Fallout 3 was released? How long did it take for Broken Steel to be announced?

I'm not sure that's the issue at all, RedTail. Not from what I've been reading around the BSN.

[xsdob]

For the love of talos, fallout 3's ending didn't change with broken steel.

They added onto the ending but the original ending plays out exactly the same, you just wake up after blacking out at the end.

[RedTail F22]

Rockpopple wrote...

RedTail F22 wrote...

I dont think people are saying that. I think all their trying to do is point out that if Bethesda rocognized the flaws with their ending and tried to fix it why can't Bioware.

How long did it take Broken Steel to come out after Fallout 3 was released? How long did it take for Broken Steel to be announced?

I'm not sure that's the issue at all, RedTail. Not from what I've been reading around the BSN.

So what is the issue?

[Rockpopple]

Pfft, if I knew that, I wouldn't be hanging around here so often.

[Larryboy_Dragon]

Bobrzy wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Fallout 3, one of the greatest RPG's this generation

AHAHAH, i'm not sure what is funnier - calling Fallout 3 an RPG, or using word "greatest" in the same sentence.

Anyway - DLC can always fix the ending. Problem is, if DLC will cost ANYTHING (even 1 BioWare point) it will be one of the most evil moves in the history of video gaming industry. We were promised a satisfactory epilogue, that will give us a sense of closure to the story, i know i payed money WITH THAT IN MIND, and for now - i have not recieved it. And forcing me to pay additional money for it, would be disgusting.

It's an RPG in the same way ME2 and 3 are.