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[TheGunslinger]

FOX216BC wrote...

[color=rgb(0, 255, 255)"> ]SPACE [/color]MAGIC  

Don't we all love some [color="#0000ff"]SPEC[/color][color="#00ff00"]ULA[/color][color="#ff0000"]TION[/color]? 

[loungeshep]

midiclorins.

midclorins explain everything.

[EliteOp-11]

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

I just pretend that the "synergy" ending doesn't exist. Control and destroy are the only options.

me too me too.

[Sleeping Slig]

Did anyone check out the GameInformer article titled "If George Lucas Created Mass Effect 3" written awhile ago? The comments reminded me of that... If only they had known.

Link: www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/03/02/if-george-lucas-created-mass-effect-3.aspx

Modifié par Sleeping Slig, 19 mars 2012 - 12:14 .

[dfstone]

Fair34 wrote...

Remember how in ME1 Saren made a case for Synthesis/Symbiosis and Shepard shot that down? After that in ME2 and 3, TIM made the case for control and Shep shot that down as well?

The 3 endings pretty much sum up the 3 major positions that were taken in all 3 Mass Effect games.

In ME1 Saren wanted Synthesis with the Reapers.
In ME2 Cerberus wanted to Control the Reapers.
In ME3 Anderson/Alliance wants to Destroy the Reapers.

Modifié par dfstone, 16 mars 2012 - 07:13 .

[Thargorichiban]

Everybody is a husk now! Party Time!

[jumpingkaede]

They needed Shepard's DNA.

I don't know.

[Bobrzy]

A WIZARD DID IT

[Hyperion II]

Space Magic For The WIN!

[GnusmasTHX]

His midi-chlorian count is off the charts.

[staindgrey]

Here's what I don't understand...

If the synthetics vs. organics thing is what started this Reaper idea, and there was an option for synthesis all along... Why didn't they just do that from the start instead of making Reapers?

I'm done trying to make sense of this ending.

[Peer of the Empire]

Midnight Eternal wrote...

Errbody is reapers now foo.

[MB957]

didnt the borg use green lights too?

[MB957]

staindgrey wrote...

Here's what I don't understand...

If the synthetics vs. organics thing is what started this Reaper idea, and there was an option for synthesis all along... Why didn't they just do that from the start instead of making Reapers?

I'm done trying to make sense of this ending.

shiny boy said they needed a human to do it...they couldnt do it on their own.  since an organic made it all the way up the magic carpet ride...it proved that it was time to end the cycle...so he needed a new revolution...I mean...solution...mostly of asinine and hogwash...but still..its new!  and shiny!

but ...Marauder Shields told me that the reapers COULD have done it all along...but...they were so high from the Halix that they decided to just stay in dark space and watch re runs of I love lucy

[VioletDrops]

I wish Mordin was still around to prove/disprove it. Le sigh.

[Samsta9009]

As much as I wanted to destroy the reapers I chose the synthesis ending because I figured that nobody besides shepard would die that way. Destroying the reapers meant destroying the geth too, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way seeing as I had made them into allies. I also figured it more or less gets rid of the reapers anyways, and makes everyone enhanced with synthetic properties or some crap like that. In retrospective I kind of regret making that decision because shepard is probably dead for good unlike the weird easter egg in the "destroy the reapers" ending, and I already made peace with synthetics and organics more or less. IN CONCLUSION i just figured it was the most peaceful ending so yea......

[Balek-Vriege]

What I gathered from the Synthesis ending is that Shepard is basically scanned, broken down and his/her DNA is used as a blueprint or template, to create a code that will change all synthetics and organics it touches. I can see how this DNA patch affects Organics, but don't see how it would affect Synthetics unless it works differently and "patches" them. It's definitely "space magic" because we have no clue how the signal wave works and really who cares, it's scifi. The Relays, Biotics and Mass Effect fields are space magic too.

I think this is the best ending for everyone. Organics gain all the abilities of synthetics, making the need for building AI unneccesary for progress. Synthetics gain what most are missing: Organic ways or thinking, empathy and self identity.

Essentially with Synthesis ending your leveling the playing field for all entities in the Galaxy possibly solving technological singularity, upliftment issues and resource depletion. The sticking point is that you truly have to trust what the Catalyst is saying (which I did and for those who don't the Destroy ending is a rejection of the Catalyst and the embracing of freedom of choice/destiny). The sacrifice is Shepard's life and the freedom for organics or synthetics to write their own destinies. In it's place is "Shepard's Solution," which Shepard makes the choice for everyone in a messiah-like manner. This also explains why the Catalyst, or those who created it, didn't choose the Synthesis plan from the get go. Although it solves the problem, it does so by making everyone hybrids, not allowing Organics to naturally or truly be Organic and random.  The opposite goes for Synthetics, but something tells me the Catalyst and/or Catalyst creators weren't concerned too much with that.

I chose this ending personally because I think it was the best long term (tens of thousands of years and beyond). I do feel sad for Shepard, but it was too hard to pass up a seemingly ideal and instant means of truly fixing what's wrong with a Galaxy, regardless if the Catalyst and Shepard have the moral "right" to do so.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 31 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[paxbanana3915]

Samsta9009 wrote...

As much as I wanted to destroy the reapers I chose the synthesis ending because I figured that nobody besides shepard would die that way. Destroying the reapers meant destroying the geth too, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way seeing as I had made them into allies. I also figured it more or less gets rid of the reapers anyways, and makes everyone enhanced with synthetic properties or some crap like that. In retrospective I kind of regret making that decision because shepard is probably dead for good unlike the weird easter egg in the "destroy the reapers" ending, and I already made peace with synthetics and organics more or less. IN CONCLUSION i just figured it was the most peaceful ending so yea......

See, when I chose Synthesis, I knew everyone would die. I had the idea, like OP, that there would be some sort of massive, illogical DNA "transformation"--at least some sort of neurological redesign--and that would kill every living being in the galaxy until a new "cycle" started again. I was okay with that.

I was not okay with Joker stepping out of the Normandy after a complete SYSTEMIC CELLULAR BREAKDOWN (including his nervous system) looking fine and dandy with a little green light on his skin.

That felt more like a cop-out happy ending than a real maximum 'good' Shepard-saved-everyone-and-herself! ending would have been.

[Balek-Vriege]

paxbanana3915 wrote...

Samsta9009 wrote...

As much as I wanted to destroy the reapers I chose the synthesis ending because I figured that nobody besides shepard would die that way. Destroying the reapers meant destroying the geth too, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way seeing as I had made them into allies. I also figured it more or less gets rid of the reapers anyways, and makes everyone enhanced with synthetic properties or some crap like that. In retrospective I kind of regret making that decision because shepard is probably dead for good unlike the weird easter egg in the "destroy the reapers" ending, and I already made peace with synthetics and organics more or less. IN CONCLUSION i just figured it was the most peaceful ending so yea......

See, when I chose Synthesis, I knew everyone would die. I had the idea, like OP, that there would be some sort of massive, illogical DNA "transformation"--at least some sort of neurological redesign--and that would kill every living being in the galaxy until a new "cycle" started again. I was okay with that.

I was not okay with Joker stepping out of the Normandy after a complete SYSTEMIC CELLULAR BREAKDOWN (including his nervous system) looking fine and dandy with a little green light on his skin.

That felt more like a cop-out happy ending than a real maximum 'good' Shepard-saved-everyone-and-herself! ending would have been.

You have to remember Reaper technology is light years past anything we can dream of.  The fact that they're able to change DNA and essientially change every entity in the Galaxy with a force of energy, also makes it possible for them to change people without realistic drawbacks.  It's space magic, but what is magic than a force we just don't understand?


Everyone dieing in Synthesis would have been taken really bad based off the reactions to the endings by the way.

[paxbanana3915]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

paxbanana3915 wrote...

Samsta9009 wrote...

As much as I wanted to destroy the reapers I chose the synthesis ending because I figured that nobody besides shepard would die that way. Destroying the reapers meant destroying the geth too, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way seeing as I had made them into allies. I also figured it more or less gets rid of the reapers anyways, and makes everyone enhanced with synthetic properties or some crap like that. In retrospective I kind of regret making that decision because shepard is probably dead for good unlike the weird easter egg in the "destroy the reapers" ending, and I already made peace with synthetics and organics more or less. IN CONCLUSION i just figured it was the most peaceful ending so yea......

See, when I chose Synthesis, I knew everyone would die. I had the idea, like OP, that there would be some sort of massive, illogical DNA "transformation"--at least some sort of neurological redesign--and that would kill every living being in the galaxy until a new "cycle" started again. I was okay with that.

I was not okay with Joker stepping out of the Normandy after a complete SYSTEMIC CELLULAR BREAKDOWN (including his nervous system) looking fine and dandy with a little green light on his skin.

That felt more like a cop-out happy ending than a real maximum 'good' Shepard-saved-everyone-and-herself! ending would have been.

You have to remember Reaper technology is light years past anything we can dream of.  The fact that they're able to change DNA and essientially change every entity in the Galaxy with a force of energy, also makes it possible for them to change people without realistic drawbacks.  It's space magic, but what is magic than a force we just don't understand?


Everyone dieing in Synthesis would have been taken really bad based off the reactions to the endings by the way.

I can suspend my disbelief for some things. So, "space magic" to me refers to things that no amount of disbelief can be suspended for. "Space magic" doesn't make any sense.

DNA runs the cell. If it is changed, the cell dies--best case scenario. Worst case = cancer. If you do this systemically, the body dies. There's really no way around that. That's why the ending felt so off to me. (Then I went back and played a 2nd ending and saw it was exactly the same. I was angry for another reason after that.)

[Jadebaby]

How I explain the Synthesis ending.....

IT theory. It's Saren all over again. Anything else is just speculation.... =P

[dreman9999]

DNA does not work like that...

[TheEyeofHorace]

Hmm it seems as though people do not understand the Synthesis ending correctly. Allow me to enlighten you. Shepard sacrifices himself, (his memories, his body, and his morals) in order to create a wave that allows machines to gain the ability to understand completely the hardships and free will of organics and allows the organics to understand the synthetics inability to feel the former. In essence, all life can accept each other, not be assimilated into a collective mind. I don't know how people can assume that they become a huge robot collective when there is no proof for it, the species of the galaxy remain themselves and the Reapers are no longer a threat and help rebuild, what more do you want? Unless no one has the ability to think farther than, "I must blow up the Reapers, cuz I want to blow crap up," then I can see why everyone hates the Synthesis ending, "Cuz everyone get glowy eyes."

[Memnon]

Wattoes wrote...

Did anyone else just burst out laughing when godchild started explaining it?

I was doing the eyeroll Olympics when he started talking about adding your energy to the Crucible, new DNA bla bla ...