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[Warior135]

Voted.

[Zhijn]

Damn i had abit of a difficult getting through thouse question.

The "MUST do this, Must NOT do this" contradict quite a few of the questions.

[nightshadeofvoid]

Zolt51 wrote...

WOW, the number of respondents has quickly exploded. Over 100 new entries in 30 minutes!
The results are starting to feel much more balance and valid. Thanks a lot everyone!

One question I haven't handled very well is the Normandy scene. It seems a lot of people both want to explain it AND remove it. Any advice on how I could rephrase it.

So far Bioware's surest bet would be to address the "What will happen to..." points. All of them. That would make 85% of happy people. Given the quantity of content it would almost have to be in text form, maybe with voiceover.

Not easy in every case however. Say if you have cure the genophage, I don't think anyone at Bioware wants to be in a position of saying: "The Krogan will prosper for a time under Wrex and Eve's leadership, and seemingly overcome their destructive tendencies. But after Wrex dies in a hunting incident, his son Urdnot Mordin will seize power and depose his mother, then launch his people in a campaign of conquest that will drench the galaxy in blood. And it was all your fault. Sucker."

Your decision influenced the Krogan greatly and.. how can I put it... you have given them a second chance as a species. Now its up to them to seize it or continue their cycle of destruction.

So well, with all these "What will happen to...." threads, I wonder just how far you want them to spell things out.

 In the case of your Krogan example thet could use that for future ME universe games (after fixing this one) not everything has to be explained as the history of the universe after ME 3 but it must show what happens in the time "imedietly" following the end. Say from the end to a decade later, even if they only use text form. It must give closure to Shepard's story that makes sense based on the players choices. The longer ranging choices as I said would then make great dlc or even spin off games.

*edit to try and fix bad grammer

Modifié par nightshadeofvoid, 16 mars 2012 - 09:50 .

[Sir_Alric]

Voted too. I don't think anything will change, sadly, but let's just hope it will.
ME3 is just too good for a crappy ending like this. Just what is the point of gathering allies and fleets for the final battle with the reapers if some random god-like starkid is gonna pop up out of nowhere at the end and give you three fake option with the exact same results, anyway? >_<

[Doronamo]

As much as I want to reunite with Liara, I found a -little- bit of closure in the last scene with her, that was pretty cool. At least I'll have a little bit of closure as far as the LI goes if this really is the end... can't say the same about other plot holes large enough to fit a Reaper.

[Warior135]

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

LI ending ... i want some closure with the one i love! and not some kiss and i love you... then going off to die! i wanna see shepard live (perfect ending) and see them together again. It was painful... shep regained ashleys trust... said she would never leave him again ... AND NOW SHE CANT EVER SEE HIM AGAIN... Ash does not deserve another broken heart... sad.

Same with Tali.

[Zolt51]

sniper1250 wrote...

This poll could be a money management game.

Given $50,000 how would you allot funds to fixing the ending? Each major change costs $10,000 and each hi-def re-texture costs $5,000. Selling the ending DLC for $10 will make the suits in accounting give you an additional $10,000 for changes, $5 DLC will give you an additional $5,000, and so on.

Would be a good idea, but I don't have the faintest idea what each item would cost, or how to implement that.

Thanks for voting anyway?

Can everyone see the results graphs? I don't know how to share it directly.

Here's a few of the top items:
-  82%: Provide an option to reject the catalyst's choice and solve this throuh conventional warfare.
-  81%: 
Explain the short and long term consequence of destroying the mass relays 
-  83%  If Shepard survives, show him reunited with his LI.
-  93%: Tell what happened to crew members while Shepard was on the citadel.
=> This last one is really a must! All the "what happens to" are over 80% too.


The first point got me thinking. People have had another superweapon all along against the reapers: Suicide attack!
Let me explain: All ships with a mass effect core have the capacity to go FTL even outside of mass relays. The Normandy can fly at several hundred times the speed of light. Well, if a ship just rams a reaper at FTL speed the energy release will be tremendous! No way even a Reaper could withtstand that! But what if the reaper dodges? Well, it's very hard to dodge somehting you can't see coming, and if something i s coming at you FTL by definition you can't see it!

Just better not try that near anyplace inhabited.

Modifié par Zolt51, 16 mars 2012 - 10:08 .

[Prince Lex]

This is a great poll. Just submitted my info.

[Doronamo]

Zolt51 wrote...

Here's a few of the top items:
-  82%: Provide an option to reject the catalyst's choice and solve this throuh conventional warfare.
-  81%: 

It's stated throughout the game that there's no way to beat the Reapers through conventional warfare... however your theory does seem reasonable, I don't know if Bioware would add such a thing, seeing as though it would be too easy to beat the Reapers. (I know, lol. If this wasn't a game, it would make sense.)

Even though... if it was possible. Wouldn't the Protheans have tried to do that? And all of the others before them?

Modifié par Doronamo, 16 mars 2012 - 10:09 .

[Davie McG]

Just voted. Hope BioWare take notice, 98% of the game is amazing, the other two percent prevented me from replaying it another 15 times and then the whole trilogy again for the next 5 years.

[Zolt51]

Doronamo wrote...

It's stated throughout the game that there's no way to beat the Reapers through conventional warfare... however your theory does seem reasonable, I don't know if Bioware would add such a thing, seeing as though it would be too easy to beat the Reapers. (I know, lol. If this wasn't a game, it would make sense.)

Personally I don't promote this option. I just wrote the poll!

Oh hey, trying to make a few calculations now. If the Normandy were to actually crash on a planet while traveling through a mass relay (at hyper-FTL speeds), the energy released by the impact could well be enough to annihilate... the whole galaxy.

Oh well, that's the problem with all science fiction concepts. You can only push them so far in confrontation to real physics.

Modifié par Zolt51, 16 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[KHReborn]

Well made poll. Voted + Bump!

[ziyon conqueror]

For my most preferred ending, I would have it most paragon and heroic way of all. We find another way to destroy the Reapers without harming other synthetics, or destroy the Citadel and Mass relays (cause we need them for interstellar travel until hyperdrive is invented). Have some more dialogue with Harbinger. Then, everyone across the galaxy celebrates (reminiscent of the end of Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi). Shepard and friends are given medals and apologies. Shepard and LI are reunited; galactic civilization realizes that the mysteries of the universe are worth exploring, etc.

[Annaleah]

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

Warior135 wrote...

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

LI ending ... i want some closure with the one i love! and not some kiss and i love you... then going off to die! i wanna see shepard live (perfect ending) and see them together again. It was painful... shep regained ashleys trust... said she would never leave him again ... AND NOW SHE CANT EVER SEE HIM AGAIN... Ash does not deserve another broken heart... sad.

Same with Tali.

Yes, with every single LI... i feel like i need to write a bloody fan fic to keep me satisfied ... BUT I SHOULDNT HAVE TOO! Bioware should have had it all covered  from the amount of gloating they were doing on the ending. The only difference is red green and blue. Completely out of order.

^ This!
Also filled out the form. lets hope Bioware looks and responds to this one.

[Jimmie_Rox]

Fairly comprehensive poll that covers a lot of the issues to some degree.

Thank's for taking the time to put it together.

Modifié par Jimmie_Rox, 16 mars 2012 - 10:13 .

[Doronamo]

Zolt51 wrote...

Doronamo wrote...

It's stated throughout the game that there's no way to beat the Reapers through conventional warfare... however your theory does seem reasonable, I don't know if Bioware would add such a thing, seeing as though it would be too easy to beat the Reapers. (I know, lol. If this wasn't a game, it would make sense.)

Personally I don't promote this option. I just wrote the poll!

Yeah I understand, and I love the poll by the way. But I don't see why people would want an option to beat them through conventional warfare, because in the end, the Reapers win every, single, time. Or maybe people think that having the cycle continue would be a better ending than the three given to us?

[Legendaryred]

Remove all unnecessary underwear, da fuq?

[unclee]

I'm sitting on the"Reunite with LI" question. What's considered "reuniting" in this context?

Is it he/she helps everyone else dig Shepard out of the rubble, which technically reunites them? Or a scene dedicated to just the two of them?

If it's the former then I'd like to say yes. If it's the latter I'm going to have to say no, because that (IMO) comes dangerously close to Bioware pandering to give us "the ending we each specifically envisioned" and I don't want to see that. I'm here because the ending makes no sense, not because it wasn't "happy" enough. I was actually surprised when Shepard survived in the ending I got, so I'm not looking to get a heartfelt one-on-one reunion between Shepard and the LI.

If the TC could shed some light then I'll happily finish the poll.

[Zolt51]

Legendaryred wrote...

Remove all unnecessary underwear, da fuq?

Traynor keeps her undies on in the shower. It's been commented on with various degrees of amusement (frustration?)

[panamakira]

Can't see the chart.

[Fulgrim88]

I didn't like the options of just adjusting the choices we are given. Remove the pseudo-philosophical catalyst RGB crap altogether, and give us an actual battle, with an outcome depending on our choices through the games

[Doronamo]

Doctor-Chalmers wrote...

Doronamo wrote...

Yeah I understand, and I love the poll by the way. But I don't see why people would want an option to beat them through conventional warfare, because in the end, the Reapers win every, single, time. Or maybe people think that having the cycle continue would be a better ending than the three given to us?

In fairness, the Reapers won every single time because they warp to the Citadel, assume direct control of the Mass Relays, and destroy isolated clusters one-by-one.

This cycle was different, thanks to Mass Effect 1.
They actually had to fight a united galaxy that could use Mass Relays freely.

That's true, but it's stated by the Protheans, Liara, (I think Hackett?) and multiple others, that the war cannot be won by conventional means. But you're right, maybe they're just wrong, and all it takes is a united galaxy to win the fight against the Reapers? You have to remember that millions are dying each day, and with that many Reapers, would it even be possible to win by conventional means?