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[Evil_medved]

Maleshep. Hale sounds so cheesy sometimes.

[Wattoes]

I think they both do a great job.

[Rafe34]

deadshame wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Well, I always found FemShep to sound boring and had this really weird and creepy whispery sound to her voice. And I feel that she overacts quite a bit. 

Which is too bad, because I like Hale as a voice actress. I don't get why she sounds so bored in the mass effect games.

Lol. This is just completely false, regardless of your opinion. If you think Hale sounds bored... then just lol.

Wrong . She sounds boring. That better for you, buddy? I don't think you know what an opinion is.

Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean its a good one.

Anyone who can seriously watch the defense of Tali at the trial, especially the renegade one, and say that Hale sounds bored is quite simply wrong. That, or they're deaf.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

They're different. Different for different types of people. From a woman's standpoint, I like Hale's presentation. She sounds like a woman who's in charge. She sounds like "the boss." She has to. Hale presents the female "business executive voice" that not all people are used to hearing. Her delivery put me in a first person point of view of the character giving excellent immersion.

My femShep is a no nonsense no makeup woman. I agree with another poster that I cannot imagine Hale's presentation behind a face painted hussy. I could not take that seriously.

I could not relate to Meer's delivery. It wasn't bad. It just was one I couldn't relate to. It's a man's delivery. It takes me into a third person point of view completely.

[Son of a Witch]

I would always prefer FemShep but they are both very good. Believe me, I had to play the first to games with German sync. After that both Hale and Meer seem like gods of voice acting... well, maybe they actually are?

[deadshame]

I will say that I liked FemShep's voice in the Genesis comic. That about the only time I can stand it though. I can barely watch youtube videos with a FemShep.

[Alien1099]

MPSai wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

MrCorvin wrote...

Am I the only one that prefers the Male Shep Voice Acting to Femshep?

No offense to Jennifer Hale, but to me the Femshep voice doesn't fit right. To me it sounds like it's trying to be TOO manly.

To me the Maleshep voice flows right for all 3 Mass Effects.

Thoughts?

EXACTLY 

Femshep seems like a forced butch female interpretation of a macho dude like Rambo or some crap. Mark Meer's performance doesn't come across as for the most part a normal guy thrown into extraordinary circumstances.

She's a military soldier, people. Not some willowly Bond girl. 

What does that have to do with anything? Also, that's funny, I've met many soldiers and Marines of the female sex. NONE of them sounded like that. They sound like... wait for it... normal people. Their voices don't suddenly deepen upon graduating basic and they don't suddenly try to sound tough. Maybe the ones trying to prove something do, but they are the exception.

Again, Mark Meer sounds normal. Jennifer Hale sounds like a female interpretation of a tough guy to me.

[Plaim]

I don't like either of them. They should've gone for more established talent and cast Nolan North as the male Shepard and John DiMaggio as the female.

[LordSlavius]

At the start Hale was lightyears ahead of Meer. Not saying Meer was crap, but every so often he'd deliver a dud line and it really grated. Hale was 100% the whole time, even from the start. In ME2 Meer was a lot better and now (ME3) I see no difference between them, because Meer has improved to the point that both of them delivered every line with 100% perfection.

So Hale has been 100% the whole time, whereas Meer has improved to that level over the course of the trilogy. Still, they're both perfect now.

[nremies1]

+1 for Hale. My main is a female renegade soldier and she absolutely nails it. I have male characters but to me Meer sounds like the bored one.

But it's all opinion so whatever.

[Akael_Bayn]

Ok, I have a better question than the original post: Do you prefer Meer or Hale, and *are you the same gender* as the actor you prefer? I noticed there was a strong correlation when I was chatting with some people at the release, but it wasn't a big sample size. I'm most curious about it.

For myself; I'm female, and I like Hale's Shepard.

[Grand Wazoo]

Rafe34 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Well, I always found FemShep to sound boring and had this really weird and creepy whispery sound to her voice. And I feel that she overacts quite a bit. 

Which is too bad, because I like Hale as a voice actress. I don't get why she sounds so bored in the mass effect games.

Lol. This is just completely false, regardless of your opinion. If you think Hale sounds bored... then just lol.

Wrong . She sounds boring. That better for you, buddy? I don't think you know what an opinion is.

Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean its a good one.

Anyone who can seriously watch the defense of Tali at the trial, especially the renegade one, and say that Hale sounds bored is quite simply wrong. That, or they're deaf.

I'll just comment on the Tali trial dialogue. After hearing both Hale and Meer say their lines (paragon or renegade) at the trial the difference for me is like night and day. I still get goosebumps after hearing Hale's line.

[Walrusninja]

The reason they have 2 voice actors is that people have different preferences.That's all that should need said.

[deadshame]

Rafe34 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Well, I always found FemShep to sound boring and had this really weird and creepy whispery sound to her voice. And I feel that she overacts quite a bit. 

Which is too bad, because I like Hale as a voice actress. I don't get why she sounds so bored in the mass effect games.

Lol. This is just completely false, regardless of your opinion. If you think Hale sounds bored... then just lol.

Wrong . She sounds boring. That better for you, buddy? I don't think you know what an opinion is.

Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean its a good one.

Anyone who can seriously watch the defense of Tali at the trial, especially the renegade one, and say that Hale sounds bored is quite simply wrong. That, or they're deaf.

I'm sorry. This is the crazy FemShep fan I was takling about. One scene
in three 35+ hour games does not make up for three games of a horrible
sounding voice. I suggest you stop trying to fight an opinion.

Modifié par deadshame, 16 mars 2012 - 08:42 .

[Foggle]

Meer: Stoic badass
Hale: Emotive badass

It really just boils down to personal preference. They're both great.

[Rafe34]

Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).

Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?

Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.

Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.

She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.

[VoraciousBeaver]

This is a question to which all answers will be subjective. Just remember that before you think you're correct about an opinion.

And I prefer Meer.

[CroGamer002]

Here we go again.

[Myrmedus]

What's quite strange to me is that how they compare has completely shifted from 1 to 3.

In ME1, FemShep was easily superior.
In ME2, each had times where they were better than the other, but FemShep probably just edged it.
In ME3, I feel MaleShep is now the better.

The reason why is expression animation: in ME1, there wasn't as much of it so FemShep's additional vocal emotion worked great. However, as of ME3, they've mastered expressions and because of that the additional emotion in FemShep's voice can now sometimes feel overkill when combined with the expressions.

I also feel Mark Meer has improved in the role considerably.

[Alexius]

Meer is good, but Hale just adds another level of emotion to the lines. The ending lines of FemShep were heartbreaking if only because of how they were delivered.

[deadshame]

Rafe34 wrote...

Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).

Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?

Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.

Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.

She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.

I REALLY hope you're not lumping me into that category.

[Akael_Bayn]

deadshame wrote...

I REALLY hope you're not lumping me into that category.

He made a generalization.  Re-frickin-lax, people.

Speaking as someone who's an athletic, short-haired, military-type female; I think it's very fair to say that yes, a lot of guys have a problem with women who aren't "girly."  I've been called every name in the book, I've had nutters harass me while I'm doing something as inoffensive as standing in line at Starbucks, had my sexual orientation questioned by strangers, you name it.

But saying "a lot" of guys is not the same as saying "most guys" or "you specifically."

Modifié par Akael_Bayn, 16 mars 2012 - 08:47 .

[Arppis]

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

This is a question to which all answers will be subjective. Just remember that before you think you're correct about an opinion.

And I prefer Meer.

Right on, mister Beaver.

[LordSlavius]

Rafe34 wrote...

Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).

Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?

Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.

Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.

She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.

F**k off!

So anyone who prefers Meer's VA is a sexist pig who expects women to clean the home and speak in quiet, whimsical tones?

I prefer Meer's VA simply because I associate more with Broshep being a man myself. That's it really. Both absolutely nail their parts in ME3 and both are f**king fantastic voice actors. I see no difference in the quality, so it comes down to personal preference.

But then again personal preference makes me prefer Meer, so I guess I " don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series".

[Zyrious]

Rafe34 wrote...

Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).

Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?

Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.

Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.

She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.

"I've had enough of your disingenuous accusations!". Seriously though i'm insulted by this accusation. I am a man, and my wife (soon to be ex unfortuanately) is in the military. The military does not all of a sudden deepen your voice  your voice. My wife, and every other woman i've known in the military, acts and sounds like any normal person.

Like another poster said, you can have a badass voice without it sounding voice. Aria is a perfect example of a strong, intimidating female that isn't forced.

Modifié par Zyrious, 16 mars 2012 - 08:46 .