Foggle wrote...
Meer: Stoic badass
Hale: Emotive badass
It really just boils down to personal preference. They're both great.
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
Zyrious wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
"I've had enough of your disingenuous accusations!". Seriously though i'm insulted by this accusation. I am a man, and my wife (soon to be ex unfortuanately) is in the military. The military does not all of a sudden deepen your voice your voice. My wife, and every other woman i've known in the military, acts and sounds like any normal person.
Like another poster said, you can have a badass voice without it sounding voice. Aria is a perfect example of a strong, intimidating female that isn't forced.
Mesina2 wrote...
Here we go again.
LordSlavius wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
F**k off!
So anyone who prefers Meer's VA is a sexist pig who expects women to clean the home and speak in quiet, whimsical tones?
I prefer Meer's VA simply because I associate more with Broshep being a man myself. That's it really. Both absolutely nail their parts in ME3 and both are f**king fantastic voice actors. I see no difference in the quality, so it comes down to personal preference.
But then again personal preference makes me prefer Meer, so I guess I " don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series".
Rafe34 wrote...
Foggle wrote...
Meer: Stoic badass
Hale: Emotive badass
It really just boils down to personal preference. They're both great.
I will certainly grant you that. If you prefer your heroes to be stoic, that's one thing.
But to say Hale is boring and Meer is not is simply not possible. Hale uses far more emotion in her lines than Meer. I could see someone not liking it because they thought Hale was trying to force something, but to say she sounds bored is just... silly.
Foggle wrote...
Meer: Stoic badass
Hale: Emotive badass
It really just boils down to personal preference. They're both great.
Modifié par I have to go, 16 mars 2012 - 08:50 .
Thalorin1919 wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
This is the problem.
Right here. These kind of posts.
Zyrious wrote...
"I've had enough of your disingenuous accusations!". Seriously though i'm insulted by this accusation. I am a man, and my wife (soon to be ex unfortuanately) is in the military. The military does not all of a sudden deepen your voice your voice. My wife, and every other woman i've known in the military, acts and sounds like any normal person.
Like another poster said, you can have a badass voice without it sounding voice. Aria is a perfect example of a strong, intimidating female that isn't forced.
Modifié par Akael_Bayn, 16 mars 2012 - 08:52 .
Myrmedus wrote...
Zyrious wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
"I've had enough of your disingenuous accusations!". Seriously though i'm insulted by this accusation. I am a man, and my wife (soon to be ex unfortuanately) is in the military. The military does not all of a sudden deepen your voice your voice. My wife, and every other woman i've known in the military, acts and sounds like any normal person.
Like another poster said, you can have a badass voice without it sounding voice. Aria is a perfect example of a strong, intimidating female that isn't forced.
Carrie really nailed her performances, eh?
Rafe34 wrote...
But to say Hale is boring and Meer is not is simply not possible. Hale uses far more emotion in her lines than Meer. I could see someone not liking it because they thought Hale was trying to force something, but to say she sounds bored is just... silly.
Thalorin1919 wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Foggle wrote...
Meer: Stoic badass
Hale: Emotive badass
It really just boils down to personal preference. They're both great.
I will certainly grant you that. If you prefer your heroes to be stoic, that's one thing.
But to say Hale is boring and Meer is not is simply not possible. Hale uses far more emotion in her lines than Meer. I could see someone not liking it because they thought Hale was trying to force something, but to say she sounds bored is just... silly.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
But in response to your comment, that is some of the problem people have with Hale. It's too forced and overdone. You do all this preaching about Hale being a soldier, but if you want to pull out generalizations like that, I might as well say that Hale's way of doing this character is godawful because soldiers should be more composed and stoic, the sort of performance that Meer puts out.
...silly.
Rafe34 wrote...
Thalorin1919 wrote...
Rafe34 wrote...
Let me just put this out there. I know plenty of guys who think Hale's VA is better, (I'm one of them).
Is there any ladies out there who think Meer's VA is better?
Most of the responses against Hale seem to come from guys who don't expect women to be strong, or confident, but more akin to the women in the James Bond series.
Maybe my experience is different just because my mom is also career military, (who btw, loves FemShep), but it just seems to me that the guys come at the series with a pre-conceived notion of what a woman should do and/or sound like. And Hale throws them out of their comfort zone because an old-fashioned woman, she is not.
She's a career soldier, people, and possibly one with a very hard background. She's not gonna sound like a Hollywood model.
This is the problem.
Right here. These kind of posts.
Go look up any video that has FemShep in it, look at the commments against her and the reasoning why.
I'm not saying everyone, I'm saying most of the ones I've run into.
Akael_Bayn wrote...
Zyrious wrote...
"I've had enough of your disingenuous accusations!". Seriously though i'm insulted by this accusation. I am a man, and my wife (soon to be ex unfortuanately) is in the military. The military does not all of a sudden deepen your voice your voice. My wife, and every other woman i've known in the military, acts and sounds like any normal person.
Like another poster said, you can have a badass voice without it sounding voice. Aria is a perfect example of a strong, intimidating female that isn't forced.
Again, this is entirely opinion. Hale does NOT sound like she's forcing her voice down low to me - and I've always felt Aria was... well, she sounds like a woman trying to MAKE herself sound like she's tough and competent. I always get the feeling that she's only skin deep; like she probably wakes up in the mornings and has to spend a few minutes chanting affirmations to herself. She's certainly a badass, but she sounds (to me) like she doesn't quite believe it, and she's trying really hard to convince not just everyone else, but herself of it.
Aren't opinions fun?
Modifié par Zyrious, 16 mars 2012 - 08:54 .
LordSlavius wrote...
Does anyone else think that they should have modelled default Broshep on Meer too? He's much better looking than the generic white guy we got!
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