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[Vhalkyrie]

I've tried several times to play male-Shep, but I don't like the voice acting.

[agathokakological]

I prefer Meer. His voice is more versatile-- that is, his voice could apply to men who look very different. Whenever I hear Jennifer Hale, I think of... Jennifer Hale! So, when I made a Femshep that didn't look anything like Jennifer Hale, it didn't fit.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

Femshep, is better all around, she's an amazing renegade! and her comedic lines are WAY better.

Malshep is neither a good paragon nor renegade thanks to Meer.

Jennifer Hale is a much better voice actor, Mark Meer's delivery is pretty damn awful, it all sounds like his lines were recorded from his first table reading.

[Bik00014]

femshep definitely. My renegade FemShep had awesome VA fitting her perfectly

[Thumb Fu]

i've played the full game as femshep, only a short time as manshep in 3 but have played ME1 and ME2 as male and female, there is a noticeable difference in 1 and 2, i just prefer hale.

In 3 the difference seems to be even greater, Hale can just get that much more emotion out in a scene than Meer can, i've watched the endings with male shepard, with anderson... there is just nothing there from Shepard. Thats just my my opinion no need to go spreading it around though. Thank you.

[MPSai]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Mark Meer is 100% better.

When I asked before people essentially responded "Hale because I like female voices better". /facepalm

Most people I've seen have said it's because she's a better voice actor. I'll just leave this here again:  

[Zyrious]

Anyone notice the damn near complete opposite opinions between all of us? Those of us who are fans of Mark think he's much better, those who are fans of Hale think she is much better, with a few objectively "They're pretty equal" responses. I think this might be a bit of personal bias mixed with who you can relate to more, thus i think our own gender + our own perspectives on how people in these positions should act affects how we feel.

Because of that, i think that says both did an awesome job in the end, as i would guess they both are great for those they are meant to appease in the first place.

[Andur4]

Meer and Hale are both great voice actors, and while they weren't perfect, they played their roles very well.

[MPSai]

Zyrious wrote...

. I think this might be a bit of personal bias mixed with who you can relate to more, thus i think our own gender + our own perspectives on how people in these positions should act affects how we feel.

I just like the better actor. For example, I'm female, I liked the male Hawke voice better in DA2. In fact playing as a male mage character on my second playthrough warmed me up to that game more and he became my "main" DA2 character despite making him second. Though the gap of quality between the male and female voice actors in that game isn't nearly as wide as the one between Meer and Hale in my opinion. 

Modifié par MPSai, 18 mars 2012 - 12:48 .

[LotharanAeron]

Even when Meer was Robo-Shepard in the first game I still preferred him over Hale. For me it has less to do with the quality of the deliveries and more with what just sounds better to me. There is something about Hale's voice in the trilogy that just doesn't gel with my head or with my female Shepard. Meer sounds like the hero I've pictured in my head even when his lines aren't as well done.

He has improved a lot though and I'd say he is almost on par with Hale for delivery and will be as consistent after he does a bit more work. There was one line Hale did in ME3, forget where it was, that was almost as bad as the "Steeeeeeeve" incident. Nobody is perfect.

[Vhalkyrie]

MPSai wrote...

Most people I've seen have said it's because she's a better voice actor. I'll just leave this here again:  

That's a good side by side comparison.  It's pretty much why I can't play male-Shep.  Meer is too 'flat'.

[Zyrious]

MPSai wrote...

Zyrious wrote...

. I think this might be a bit of personal bias mixed with who you can relate to more, thus i think our own gender + our own perspectives on how people in these positions should act affects how we feel.

I just like the better actor. For example, I'm female, I liked the male Hawke voice better in DA2. In fact playing as a male mage character on my second playthrough warmed me up to that game more. Though the gap of quality between the male and female voice actors in that game isn't nearly as wide as the one between Meer and Hale in my opinion. 

Well i disagree strongly that hale is the "better" actor. More experienced perhaps. But i think Meer nailed Maleshep perfectly. Especially renegade. Hale seems more forced in parts. Not sure why, but she does imo.

[Chibi Elemental]

I think they are both wonderful regardless of who is doing the voice acting, unfortunatly the script is written almost exclusivly for a man and there are vary few moments for jenifer hale to introduce a more feminine point of view into the plot. In either case both are great and can't wait to see them both in more games

[Zubie]

I play maleshep but I thought Hale was the better of the two in the first 2 games but Meer stole the show in ME3. Really did a great job.

[Vhalkyrie]

Tsai Zhou wrote...

I think they are both wonderful regardless of who is doing the voice acting, unfortunatly the script is written almost exclusivly for a man and there are vary few moments for jenifer hale to introduce a more feminine point of view into the plot. In either case both are great and can't wait to see them both in more games

This is why I liked Mass Effect.  The script for femshep wasn't written with 'stereotypical' fem pov.  She has the same script as male-shep.  It is powerful and assertive.  Shep is badass, and that is gender neutral.

[MPSai]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Most people I've seen have said it's because she's a better voice actor. I'll just leave this here again:  

That's a good side by side comparison.  It's pretty much why I can't play male-Shep.  Meer is too 'flat'.

Same here.

Zyrious wrote...

Well i disagree strongly that hale is the "better" actor. More experienced perhaps. But i think Meer nailed Maleshep perfectly. Especially renegade. Hale seems more forced in parts. Not sure why, but she does imo.

 

More experienced generally means "better". If Maleshep was meant to be a sort of dopey guy with no social skills and a flat voice... yeah I guess he did nail it. 

Hale's whispery tone can be a bit weird sometimes, but overall she's the much stronger actor in my opinion. 

[Zyrious]

MPSai wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Most people I've seen have said it's because she's a better voice actor. I'll just leave this here again:  

That's a good side by side comparison.  It's pretty much why I can't play male-Shep.  Meer is too 'flat'.

Same here.

Zyrious wrote...

Well i disagree strongly that hale is the "better" actor. More experienced perhaps. But i think Meer nailed Maleshep perfectly. Especially renegade. Hale seems more forced in parts. Not sure why, but she does imo.

 

More experienced generally means "better". If Maleshep was meant to be a sort of dopey guy with no social skills and a flat voice... yeah I guess he did nail it. 

Hale's whispery tone can be a bit weird sometimes, but overall she's the much stronger actor in my opinion. 

In your opinion, perhaps. I do not see meer as dopey with no social skills at all. I certainly don't see him as flat. I think hale feels forced and unnatural, i think mark meer seems to more naturally fit the role.

Different strokes for different folks i guess.

Modifié par Zyrious, 18 mars 2012 - 12:57 .

[MPSai]

Zyrious wrote...


In your opinion, perhaps. I do not see meer as dopey with no social skills at all. I certainly don't see him as flat. I think he nails the male side of things perfectly. Men in general would seem "flat" compared to how many women speak. I think hale feels forced and unnatural, i think mark meer seems to more naturally fit the role.

Different strokes and all that.

But it's not flat in just compared to her, most of if not all of the other actors in the games are better than Meer. Maybe that's why it's so grating for me to hear him in conversations. When I say flat, I mean he doesn't even sound like he's acting. He sounds like he thinks he's reading a voice over for an ad. Like MaleShep is never aware of the context of what he's saying. 

I wouldn't say Brandon Keener sounds "flat" compared to Jennifer Hale because they're both good actors. Keith David and Martin Sheen don't sound "flat" because they're good actors and have quality to their voices when acting. It has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with acting ability.

[Zyrious]

MPSai wrote...

Zyrious wrote...


In your opinion, perhaps. I do not see meer as dopey with no social skills at all. I certainly don't see him as flat. I think he nails the male side of things perfectly. Men in general would seem "flat" compared to how many women speak. I think hale feels forced and unnatural, i think mark meer seems to more naturally fit the role.

Different strokes and all that.

But it's not flat in just compared to her, most of if not all of the other actors in the games are better than Meer. Maybe that's why it's so grating for me to hear him in conversations. When I say flat, I mean he doesn't even sound like he's acting. He sounds like he thinks he's reading a voice over for an ad. Like MaleShep is never aware of the context of what he's saying. 

I wouldn't say Brandon Keener sounds "flat" compared to Jennifer Hale because they're both good actors. Keith David and Martin Sheen don't sound "flat" because they're good actors and have quality to their voices when acting. It has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with acting ability.

Well your appraisal most certainly isn't shared by much of the 86% that play as male shep, so i'll just respectfully disagree, i don't see Meer's performance like that whatsoever, at all.

[Zubie]

MPSai wrote...

But it's not flat in just compared to her, most of if not all of the other actors in the games are better than Meer. Maybe that's why it's so grating for me to hear him in conversations. When I say flat, I mean he doesn't even sound like he's acting. He sounds like he thinks he's reading a voice over for an ad. Like MaleShep is never aware of the context of what he's saying. 

I wouldn't say Brandon Keener sounds "flat" compared to Jennifer Hale because they're both good actors. Keith David and Martin Sheen don't sound "flat" because they're good actors and have quality to their voices when acting. It has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with acting ability.

I disagree

[Sundance31us]

It's a matter of taste.

[gooberfish311]

In ME1, I thought Hale was much better than Meer. In 2, it sounded like Meer had improved quite a bit and they felt more even. I haven't played a manShep yet in 3, but Hale IMO is better here than she was in the previous two games, and she was great in those.

Modifié par gooberfish311, 18 mars 2012 - 01:02 .

[Keltikone]

Gotta say, I like them both, but Hale just gives ........... more.

[Chibi Elemental]

 

Vhalkyrie wrote...

Tsai Zhou wrote...

I think they are both wonderful regardless of who is doing the voice acting, unfortunatly the script is written almost exclusivly for a man and there are vary few moments for jenifer hale to introduce a more feminine point of view into the plot. In either case both are great and can't wait to see them both in more games

This is why I liked Mass Effect.  The script for femshep wasn't written with 'stereotypical' fem pov.  She has the same script as male-shep.  It is powerful and assertive.  Shep is badass, and that is gender neutral.

 


not saying its not bad ass, I play femshep too XD but I would have liked more moments for femshep to be a girl too just as there are plenty of opertunities for male shep to be a maly man. Just my point of view

Modifié par Tsai Zhou, 18 mars 2012 - 01:08 .

[Vhalkyrie]

Brandon Keener would have been an awesome male-shep. Part of the reason why I love Garrus so much is because of him. Compare Keener or Sheen to Meer. Would Joker have been nearly as wise-ass without Seth Green? Since this is a video game, emotion primarily needs to expressed through voice.  Otherwise, they come across as Elcor - lol.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 18 mars 2012 - 01:08 .