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[Visii]

syllogi wrote...


He took on the task of protecting those scientists, so no, he wasn't sitting idle.  Brynn tells Shepard that she actually went after him, knowing that he was in a relationship.  So, he knew it was cheating.  Brynn knew it was cheating.  He could have even sent an breakup email, which is douchey, but since he said he thought he'd never see her again, would have been the least he could do.

I'm not saying it's necessarily stereotypical, but the Jacob we met in ME2 would have behaved in a more honorable manner.  He could have let Shepard know that he wasn't committed around the time she turned herself in to the Alliance for the trial.  He could have written to her once he got involved with Brynn.  He TOTALLY could have protected those scientists and their families without knocking up one of them.

While it's fine that the writers wanted to take one of the squadmates in a new direction, it sucks to do that to a romanceable character.  

Why not make ALL the romances end in tears and misery, if it's such a good idea to do it for Jacob's romance?

Exactly! If some romances, like Thane and Jacob and Samara had paths to failure, why didn't everyone else's? Of course, that would have involved making everyone's having the opportunity to success, and Bioware doesn't really do fairness, do they?

[lyssalu]

Optimystic_X wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Yeah but still. Maybe I'm more pissed about it because I'm black idk. You don't think it just a little shady.

Also you can break it off with any LI at any point.

What do you have to say about Vaga and Kei Lang they were a littl racist also.

1) YOU can break it off, yeah. But he is the only LI in both games that can break it off with you totally on his own.

2) Kai Leng is an expy of Kai Lan from Jade Empire so the martial arts are understandable; I don't see anything else stereotypically asian there. Vega I'm not seeing either, what racially stereotypical things does he do? Eat all his food out of foil? Have a dozen brothers and sisters? Is he a hot latin lover? (doubtful since he doesn't come on to Femshep.) What does he do?

lyssalu wrote...

jacob wasn't the family man -- he didn't want baggage! where are people getting this?! he hated his family.

He hated HIS father, that doesn't mean he didn't want to BE one.

syllogi wrote...

He took on the task of protecting those scientists, so no, he wasn't sitting idle.

Compared to what the other LIs are doing that's a joke.

well, what implicated to you that he wanted to be one?

that's where i'm getting tripped up

and all these things you're saying to excuse this away, you're pulling from his me3 story; it completely goes against what happened in me2.  i think bioware's intention was to set jacob up somewhere that he could be happy, and since women are already a minority audience, they decided that it didn't matter to have him cheat.  they were more interested in the bro aspects of jacob's character than the romantic aspects and did this for the male audience without regard for the women or what kind of implications they were making by having him cheat and knock someone up.

i think they also needed to give him a good excuse for not being able to be a squadmate in me3, and through inspiring creative genius, they landed on this.

this would all be fine and dandy if he weren't an LI, you know?  it's totally odd for bioware to have done this.

[MissMaster_2]

Optimystic_X wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Yeah but still. Maybe I'm more pissed about it because I'm black idk. You don't think it just a little shady.

Also you can break it off with any LI at any point.

What do you have to say about Vaga and Kei Lang they were a littl racist also.

1) YOU can break it off, yeah. But he is the only LI in both games that can break it off with you totally on his own.

2) Kai Leng is an expy of Kai Lan from Jade Empire so the martial arts are understandable; I don't see anything else stereotypically asian there. Vega I'm not seeing either, what racially stereotypical things does he do? Eat all his food out of foil? Have a dozen brothers and sisters? Is he a hot latin lover? (doubtful since he doesn't come on to Femshep.) What does he do?

lyssalu wrote...

jacob wasn't the family man -- he didn't want baggage! where are people getting this?! he hated his family.

He hated HIS father, that doesn't mean he didn't want to BE one.

syllogi wrote...

He took on the task of protecting those scientists, so no, he wasn't sitting idle.

Compared to what the other LIs are doing that's a joke.

With Vaga BW keep jaming it to us with the whole. "Hey guys! Look he is latino! See how he slips spanish in to his sentences, look thats so cool. He's latino! See! He eats latin food too! We are so diverse!"

I went to middle school in an all hispanic area of Detroit, not once did I ever here some one say "That's loco." They tried to hard and it looked a little shady.

[Siansonea]

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Wait, what? This is absurd. Jacob was never in love with Shepard, they were a hookup. He fell in love with Brynn, and they're having a kid together. He's WITH the woman he got pregnant. How is that stereotypical of anything?

gurl no

sit down

he was written to say "i love you" in the romance

and no he didn't "do" any of those things, bioware mistreated his character arc because they didn't feel inclined to spend resources on another less popular female romance 

don't try to act like this was thought out anymore than that

You do NOT speak to me that way, child. Anyone who thought the Jacob romance had depth in ME2 was really projecting. It wasn't exactly Titanic.

u mad

also u silly for comparing it to titanic in the first place

it was written by bioware

Am I supposed to know who the kid in the clip is? I'm not 12, so...

it's always funny when people don't realize the intention of gifs 

internet more

You just might be the least hip hipster of all time.

[lyssalu]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Yeah but still. Maybe I'm more pissed about it because I'm black idk. You don't think it just a little shady.

Also you can break it off with any LI at any point.

What do you have to say about Vaga and Kei Lang they were a littl racist also.

1) YOU can break it off, yeah. But he is the only LI in both games that can break it off with you totally on his own.

2) Kai Leng is an expy of Kai Lan from Jade Empire so the martial arts are understandable; I don't see anything else stereotypically asian there. Vega I'm not seeing either, what racially stereotypical things does he do? Eat all his food out of foil? Have a dozen brothers and sisters? Is he a hot latin lover? (doubtful since he doesn't come on to Femshep.) What does he do?

lyssalu wrote...

jacob wasn't the family man -- he didn't want baggage! where are people getting this?! he hated his family.

He hated HIS father, that doesn't mean he didn't want to BE one.

syllogi wrote...

He took on the task of protecting those scientists, so no, he wasn't sitting idle.

Compared to what the other LIs are doing that's a joke.

With Vaga BW keep jaming it to us with the whole. "Hey guys! Look he is latino! See how he slips spanish in to his sentences, look thats so cool. He's latino! See! He eats latin food too! We are so diverse!"

I went to middle school in an all hispanic area of Detroit, not once did I ever here some one say "That's loco." They tried to hard and it looked a little shady.

this

his race was used as a comedic device

"haha look it's so funny he has roots that aren't white and he sometimes slips words white people know into sentences!  cute!"

[MissMaster_2]

Siansonea II wrote...

You just might be the least hip hipster of all time.

It was just a reaction gif.

[lyssalu]

Siansonea II wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Wait, what? This is absurd. Jacob was never in love with Shepard, they were a hookup. He fell in love with Brynn, and they're having a kid together. He's WITH the woman he got pregnant. How is that stereotypical of anything?

gurl no

sit down

he was written to say "i love you" in the romance

and no he didn't "do" any of those things, bioware mistreated his character arc because they didn't feel inclined to spend resources on another less popular female romance 

don't try to act like this was thought out anymore than that

You do NOT speak to me that way, child. Anyone who thought the Jacob romance had depth in ME2 was really projecting. It wasn't exactly Titanic.

u mad

also u silly for comparing it to titanic in the first place

it was written by bioware

Am I supposed to know who the kid in the clip is? I'm not 12, so...

it's always funny when people don't realize the intention of gifs 

internet more

You just might be the least hip hipster of all time.

you've slain me

[MissMaster_2]

Kaidan Alenko is Greek right? So why isn't he running around saying "Opa!"

Because Greeks aren't really made fun of, but Latino's? Yes.

If they are going to make one race and culture for comedy then they need to either not do it at all or do it for all of them.
Because when you single out one or two cultures it looks racist.

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 16 mars 2012 - 09:39 .

[Siansonea]

lyssalu wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

You just might be the least hip hipster of all time.

you've slain me

Yeah, I do that.

[MissMaster_2]

Kei Lang is Asian clearly he has a sword and does black flips!

[Siansonea]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Kei Lang is Asian clearly he has a sword and does black flips!

BLACK flips? That's racist.

[MissMaster_2]

Siansonea II wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Kei Lang is Asian clearly he has a sword and does black flips!

BLACK flips? That's racist.

LOL!! I did not even notice that. My mind is on black right now! Shhh. You know what I mean!

LMAFO! 

[MissMaster_2]

Sparatus wrote...

Male Shep is voiced by a white dude and can't dance.

That's racist.

You know random thought. But JHale has a really racially ambiguous voice I like that.

[Siansonea]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Kei Lang is Asian clearly he has a sword and does black flips!

BLACK flips? That's racist.

LOL!! I did not even notice that. My mind is on black right now! Shhh. You know what I mean!

LMAFO! 

Don't worry about it, your mind will get black to normal in no time. 

[stysiaq]

I don't blame Jacob for getting that girl pregnant, but it was a black of responsibility, to be honest.

[MissMaster_2]

stysiaq wrote...

I don't blame Jacob for getting that girl pregnant, but it was a black of responsibility, to be honest.

Black of responsibility? You did it too lol.

[stysiaq]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

I don't blame Jacob for getting that girl pregnant, but it was a black of responsibility, to be honest.

Black of responsibility? You did it too lol.

You don't say?