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[kurema]

 I've been having issues as i progress through normal mode. I first went to the dwarves, then the elves and now the humans. But everywhere i go i get my ass kicked, even by some of the random encounters!. Not just by bosses but by random encounters. Now I am by no means a terrible players so i think it has something to do with my party.

I have Morrigan who i respeced to a spirit healer, i think its mainly due to her, shes terrible at healing. Then i have Shale who i have set as a tank though except for bosses he doesn't tank very well. And then i have Leliana who is using duel wield (shes absolutly useless except she can open locked chests). My PC is a Dwarf that uses a 2her with Beserker, powerful swings and indomitable while throwing out crit strike and mighty blow.

I was thinking of respecing my PC to sword/shield so he can tank, grabbing Wynne and making her a spirit healer/arcane warrior (for decent armor?), making shale dps and probably replacing Leliana with Oghren since he doesn't die so easily and actually does damage.

Any help you guys can provide would be helpful, and yes i do pause the game to coordinate my NPCs during harder fights, but I really don't think i should have to in smaller scale fights on normal mode.

[Rayne Myria Solo]

honestly..some of the random encounters are the hardest stuff in the game..since those are scaled directly to your level..whereas the other stuff is bounded by area. Also, the progression you took is about backward from the way the levels scale. Dwarven area is some of the hardest, besides denerim...

[metatrans]

two handed weapons in general have low damage output compared to other DPS options.



there's no particular reason Morrigan can't be a good healer if you give her the healing spells. you'll need to set your tactics carefully to get her to cast appropriately (or just micro it yourself). Wynne is already set up for this though and doesn't require a respec to do it.



Shale can Tank anything in the game. Alistair is probably better at it though due to flanking immunity (with Shield Tactics talent) and generally able to get much higher defense score. Shale will have more health though. Doesn't particularly matter though as long as you find some way to keep the tank alive and the mobs hitting the tank (usually just Taunt is enough).



Leliana does indeed come with bad default talents but dual wield backstab rogues are not bad damage at all. if you've respecced leliana for this then she ought to be able to do extreme single target damage. i would suggest reading some rogue guides on these forums to figure out optimal builds for it. dual dagger lethality build is the highest single target DPS in the game though.



but really i'm thinking your issue is not party makeup. you can optimize it more certainly, but thats not such a big deal on normal difficulty. i think you need better tactics and strategies.



you'll need to get adept at tanking and healing to control basic melee mobs. focus firing on the tank's target to keep aggro under control and damage focused on the tank instead of spread around the party. getting adept at crowd controlling with your magic spells. prioritize your targets appropriately (enemy Mages are first priority always. crowd control them if you can't reach them right away). try to use line of sight tactics to keep enemy archers from being able to focus fire on you. learn how to pull mobs and set ambushes. if you make them run to you its an advantage. usually not a good idea to just charge a group of mobs and walk into their ambush.

[weism]

If u are not a micromanage guy, then u got play around with tatics a bit. Morrigan can be a good healer if u set her tactics right. one tip make sure u put healing on the top lines of tactic. What I do is:



Line 1: Ally health < 50% Heal

Line 2: Ally Health < 25% Group heal

Line 3: Ally Health< 10% Life ward ( whatever the name of 3rd spell in spirit healer line)



And voila, she's a decent healer now, just make sure she has enough mana lol.

[Dasim4]

I went through on normal with Alistaire tanking, Wynne as primary healer, Leliana as an archer, and myself as a mage for damage and back up healing. I tried Leliana as a melee rogue but found she just didn't hold up well in the bigger fights. I had to pay way too much attention to her and wasn't happy with that. I switched her to archery and was very pleased with her performance. She put out excellent damage and had far less trouble in fights. Mostly I took her to open locked doors and chests though. If I didn't need that I'd would much rather have had another mage or possibly another warrior.



What really made the game much easier for me was when I added a second healer. When was trying to do it all myself it was really hard to keep everyone up without using a ton of potions which is a pain. With a second healer my potion useage dropped dramatically and I had no problem with the bigger fights.



As for staying alive, well, it took me a bit to get the hang of this game. It can be tough at times with the number of enemies you face. But once you get your strategies down it gets a whole lot smoother. Try a different group combination and see how it works for you. That's what helped me in the end. And try to set up your group and have your tank go forward and pull the mobs back to you. It helps if you can pull back smaller numbers instead of just rushing into a room full of enemies and getting overwhelemed and defeated. Sometimes there's nothing you can do but try to make things swing your way even if it means retreating to regroup and then going back in slowly.

[weism]

oh forgot to add line 4



Line 4: Self-- health <50% Use least powerful healing potion





She got be alive to heal lol

[weism]

And for my other chars, the first line 1 of tactic is always this one for every char



Line 1: self-- Health < 25% use least powerful healing potion



I carry about 80 lesser healing poultice at all time, towards end game that changes to 80 healing poultice.

[margrave1986]

Morrigan is bad ass as a crowd controller, waking nightmare, cone of cold, sleep. And since you can pretty much get an incredible healer in Wynne there isnt much to gain in making Morrigan a healer. Just dont bother with Shapeshifting, sure Morrigan would dissaprove of me saying this, but keep that stuff to your lonely times in the Wilds woman...

[gurugeorge]

Unless you're using a respec mod, I would say it's best to roll with the characters as they are set up for you - I mean, Morrigan is set up as a Damager/debuffer/CC-er when you get her (she could go any of those three ways if you want), Wynne is set up as a healer when you get her, Leilana is set up as an Archery/stealing rogue when you get her, Alistair is set up as a Tank when you get him. If you build from there, then you min-max the points at level-up to the best advantage. (i.e Leilana can get arrow of Slaying pretty quickly, Morrigan gets cone of cold pretty quickly, etc., etc.)
However, if you're using a respec mod, I don't see how that can be a problem - e.g. Morrigan mod-respecced to healer should be just as good as Wynne. In which case, as people said, it may be that you have to pay attention to how tactics are set up, or micromanage more, or both.

Modifié par gurugeorge, 29 novembre 2009 - 01:39 .

[kurema]

weism wrote...

And for my other chars, the first line 1 of tactic is always this one for every char

Line 1: self-- Health

I carry about 80 lesser healing poultice at all time, towards end game that changes to 80 healing poultice.

Thats probably one of my issues, i always seem to lack healing poultice, I've been trying to make some myself but i've never really gotten over 20 at one time lol. Also i agree its probably largely due to my tactics.

[weism]

the merchant at camp carries infinite flasks and concentration agent, and the merchant at dalish camp carries infinite elf root, I stock up 500 elf root there. health potion problem solved.

[kurema]

weism wrote...

the merchant at camp carries infinite flasks and concentration agent, and the merchant at dalish camp carries infinite elf root, I stock up 500 elf root there. health potion problem solved.

Sounds good, thnx for the advice everyone, it will certainly help me.

[Seraphael]

CC > Heal for just about everything in the game