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Did ME3 ending kill series replayability completely?


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JunMadine

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I want to play it again if the endings are improved. But as of now I can't bring myself to play again except the occasional multi-player game. I have lost nearly all of my interest.

But I have faith Bioware will come through and fix this.

Modifié par JunMadine, 17 mars 2012 - 04:44 .


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JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

It's like having a perfect marriage for 50 years ending in your own castration.

And then people tell you to stop complaining and just remember the 50 years.


powerful and accurate words i must say.

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Yeah, totally killed it for me.

Beat Mass Effect at least 5 times.

Beat Mass Effect 2 at least 7 times.

I LOVED ALL of Mass Effect 3...  but HATED the last 15 minutes.


I tried starting up a new ME3 game and importing my femshep, but after forcing myself to play for a few hours I just couldn't do it.   I know people say it's "stupid" to let the last few minutes ruin playing the whole franchise, but to know it ends so horribly just sucked the will out of me.

I keep thinking, ok maybe I can just act like the game stops after you and anderson are looking out at the battle, or maybe I can just believe the indoctrination theory and quit playing after I get to the last allied ground base?  But I just can't *unsee* the ending since I know it is there, and I can't shake the feeling that Bioware just dropped the ball (or where rushed?) at the very end.

That being said, I'd pay just about any reasonable amount of money to Bioware if they released a DLC to salvage this mess, otherwise they're never getting my money again.

#129
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I think the ending was awful = Blue opinion....won't replay
I think the ending was bad = Green opinion....won't replay
I think the ending sucked and I broke it = Red opinion...won't play.

Well, at least I have Different opinions....

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It killed it for me too. I just can't play ME1, ME2 or ME3 because I will always be thinking about the inevitable stupid ending in ME3 in which pretty much everyone dies, the crew gets stranded and the mass relays blow up. Playing everything all over again just shows how pointless it all was, there was no victory, Shepard fought to preserve the galaxy's way of life and in the end the galaxy's way of life was extinguished anyways.

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amblin_xi

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the ending dismissed all previous efforts/choices into the void. they weights NOTHING. no matter what you did or what you do, you still get the same tri-colour doom it all ending.

i replayed ME 1 & 2 more times than i can remember, especially ME2, everytime i play the final mission, i still feels like i'm sitting on the edge of my chair.

but ME3? No, i don't even want to touch it again. i tried to replay it, but i simply can't ignore the fact that the ending sucks, and no matter what i do, i'm impossible to change it... and each finished mission brings me closer to the bad ending. so YES, it killed replayablility completely.

#132
samiamX

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Mostly.

As an RPG where your choices make a difference in how things play out and the outcome...definitely.

As a shooter...its fine. Exept I don't play shooters.

As a shooter with some RPG elements...it's still playable. I do like the game play. I really enjoyed the crew interactions. I'll probably play again, as there are different paths to the same lame-o ending...different class...different gender...different LI...etc...but I do not think I'll play any subsequent play throughs all the way to the end...why bother?

Or I may just go back to Skyrim once I get it back from a buddy that is borrowing it.

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Starshadow2010

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For me, if not killed, then at least severely wounded. I replayed the saves from some of my favorite moments in the game a few times, but couldn't make myself to replay the full game.

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DarthSyphilis59

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Yes it killed it for me, I don't really even want to listen to the soundtrack anymore. I played it with my wife on the 360, and I was in the middle of mass effect 2 on the pc. I can't even finish mass effect 2 now.:(:pinched::crying:

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I started a second playthrough when the Indoc Theory first started going around. Hopes crushed by Final Hours and other statements. Cannot look at the game again.


After ME2 came out, I was miffed by the lack of decent plot, but it started to grow on me very quickly.

ME3? Opposite. I get more and more irritated with it as time goes on.

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I'll still play all three, but instead of playing the end I'll just scooch over to my computer and read over my custom ending. Thus feeling satisfied.

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Theres no point imo... theres hardly any choices that actually play out in a meaningfull way...

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MzAdventure

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Yes...

For 1 and 2 also

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I should already be on my 3rd playthrough. Instead every time I think about playing ME3 I thought about how insultingly bad the ending is and I just can't.

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k177sh0t

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ME1 - 98 hrs
ME2 - 291 hrs
Me3 - Hell if I know, could't care anymore, credit to ending (1 playthrough)

Modifié par k177sh0t, 16 mars 2012 - 10:33 .


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amblin_xi

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When we talk about ME series, Characters that grows on you is probably one of the most important features---it's the icing on the cake. their personalities, their stories, and the difficult choices and the shocking outcomes.

But now, after the most important battle in the game's universe, all becomes irrelevent, all is not necessary anymore---

those who followed you to the final suicide mission suddenly mysteriously re-appeared on your don't-know-why-escaping ship. Everything you fought so hard to save were gone, you've been forced into the corner to make pick from three equally bad choices, the game ends in an artisticaly nonsense way---it may be artistic, but it makes NO sense what-so-ever, completly cut off from the rest of the game.

Imagine you're watching LotR, and in the end, you finally reached modor, in a dire situation that things could end very badly any moment. but then all of a sudden, some mysterious kid simply pops out of no-where saying that he's the key to solve everything, HOW?

PICK YOUR FAVORITE COLOR PLEASE~~

Modifié par amblin_xi, 16 mars 2012 - 10:39 .


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Before I finished me3 I was planning on spending weeks going through me1 2 and then back to 3 to try and get the best possible story. I was also going to buy the art book and the books. Now I have no desire to play or buy anything mass effect.

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yeah pretty much, if it had a great ending I would probably be in the beginning of my third playthrough. How sad :(

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Well, if nothing else, it serves me in honing what I actually want out of my computer entertainment. I now know how much the ending is just as important to me as the journey towards it. Finally, I've been taught a hard lesson on how pre-ordering is a terrible idea and only now have I realized what a bad idea it's been for me to support the practice.

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LenabotSE wrote...

I started a second playthrough when the Indoc Theory first started going around. Hopes crushed by Final Hours and other statements. Cannot look at the game again.


After ME2 came out, I was miffed by the lack of decent plot, but it started to grow on me very quickly.

ME3? Opposite. I get more and more irritated with it as time goes on.


Which were made prior to the game shipping - prior to the unexpected, yet monumental fan backlash. 

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2484Stryker wrote...

Just curious here.  I think most of us have multiple shepard saves collecting electronic dust right now.  I'm under the impression that there's is no point in importing any of them because:

1) You can get the "different" endings in the end just by picking A/B/C, and
2) All you have to do to get your EMS up above 5000 is play MP, which isn't dependent on your imports

So basically, I could have randomly picked any major choices I wanted throughout the series (e.g. saving Rachnii queen, saving Council, etc.) and I'd still be able to pick my favourite color in the end; and the only thing that I'd need to do to see Shepard take half a breath in the end, is to play MP.

Thanks, Bioware!

EDIT: need to clarify something here - I don't regret playing and experiencing the ME series at all.  I had hella fun with the games and felt enriched by them in the process.  I'm speaking from the standpoint of replaying the entire series to experience different endings, with different closures and different futures.  Right now, as the ending stands, I can experience those "different" endings with just a single import.


Absolutely ruined the replayability. I was even going to purchase ME1 for the PC (had it originally on the Xbox) just to play through a different way to experience more of the "totally different endings" we were promised....

Instead all I had to do was run into the beam a couple more times from the QuickSave, watch the AMAZING scene between Shepard & Anderson as he died, and then grit my teeth & run to a different color ... so I could watch the nearly exact same ending again.

I guess I could be thanking BioWare for saving me hundreds of hours of my life on playthroughs I will never accomplish & a ton of cash for DLC I will never need to buy now, but I think I'd have preferred to sacrifice those things to continue loving the ME Universe.  Alas, none of it matters.

It's lame to have to pretend, but I have my own imaginary version of the end. Different cutscenes showing your other squaddies fighting together (and dying together in some cases), other races working together as hope fades on the battlefield - geth, quarian, elcor, rachni, vorcha, mercenary, krogan, salarian, asari, human & turians fighting side by side, rallied by Garrus on the ground as the chain of command collapses. Normandy providing futile air support with a wing of fighters & frigates, drawing Reaper fire & barely escaping doom.  Your friends & allies thinking Shepard died running for the beam. Then Shepard has her scene w/ TIM & Anderson, talks to Admiral Hackett & opens the arms of the Citadel. She & Anderson have their scene together (BEAUTIFULLY done, btw, wouldn't change that at all), both mortally wounded. Admiral Hacket calls in to report he can successfully access the Crucible weapon now, which charges up & fires.  Reapers being destroyed in orbit and on the ground, with your friends & squaddies saved. Cutscenes of dreadnoughts & live ships about to be destroyed suddenly saved. Shepard watching from the Crucible control room next to Anderson's body, smiling sadly, then she dies. (Optional, could survive if your score is high enough for those that want happy endings).  Rejoicing on the ground. Shepard did it! Shepard did it!  Admiral Hackett can't raise Shepard on the comm.... Cut to a memorial service on the Citadel back in Citadel Space attended by your surviving friends from ME1-3, with a statue of Shepard being raised to counterpoint the Krogan statue.  Liara is with child.  She gives a hopeful & wistful eulogy (perhaps using the memory box that I earlier told her to write herself) that is interspersed with scenes from around the galaxy of the good Shepard has accomplished - Geth & Quarians rebuilding their homeworld together; Wrex & the krogan repopulating Tuchanka & negotiating hard but peacefully for colony worlds; Asari, Humans & Turians rebuilding their homeworlds; diplomatic relations being established with the Rachni Queen.  All thanks to Shepard, who has finally freed the galaxy from the scourge of the Reaper cycles & is free from her burdens. Camera pulls back, past  the ongoing bustle of the Citadel, through the arms, sliding by ships of various races repairing in orbit. Zooming out & out, showing the entire majestic Milky Way Galaxy. Cut to credits.

Anyway, yeah it's not the ending for everyone. But it would have at least taken into account SOMETHING about how I played the game for the last 5 freaking years.

Modifié par Daedalus1773, 16 mars 2012 - 11:30 .


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Gotta agree with you, it killed all re playability. I had 4 Shepards ready to import into Mass Effect 3, and I haven't even tried to import any of them since my first play through.

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Definately. 1 playthrough of the game will be all I'll ever do. I will play through ME2 again, because I can at least reach the end and see a variety of different combinations of outcomes based on who was loyal. But for ME3 I'll have to stick with headcanon.

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Same as a lot of people here...Was planning to start my second ME3 playthrough as soon as I'd have finished the first one. But since I've seen the ending, i can touch the game anymore. Was also planning on doing a full new playthrough from ME1, but I just cant, the ending completely ruined the series for me. 
All the choices I would have to do are now pointless.
Save Ashley, save kaidan? Save my entire crew in the collector base? Cure the genophage? Hoping for a future with my love interest?

Nothing matters anymore, the only ending I will get is a dead shepard, a lost crew doomed to die alone and forgotten on some random world, allied forces waiting to starve to death on earth, and a ruined universe plunged into darkness.
Why would I want to restart a journey to this end?
Good job Bioware, you killed one of my all time favorite series in the dumbest way possible.

Modifié par captainbob8383, 16 mars 2012 - 11:35 .


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No, it didn't. At all. I disliked the ending, yes, but the missions before the last were mind-blowingly amazing, I had A LOT of fun during Mass Effect 3, even more than Mass Effect 2. I will keep playing, I don't care if the ending sucks, it's just a flaw of the best game I've ever played.